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> is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that operate
> OVER 100kw anywhere?
As far as I know, there are only four:
93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure someone will add them on in this thread.
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> OVER 100kw anywhere?
As far as I know, there are only four:
93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure someone will add them on in this thread.
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-- Phil Hendrie
http://theradioblog.blogspot.com</P>
> > is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that
> operate
> > OVER 100kw anywhere?
>
> As far as I know, there are only four:
>
> 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
>
> Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> someone will add them on in this thread.
>
KZZO 100.5 Sacramento 115kW<P ID="signature">______________
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> operate
> > OVER 100kw anywhere?
>
> As far as I know, there are only four:
>
> 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
>
> Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> someone will add them on in this thread.
>
KZZO 100.5 Sacramento 115kW<P ID="signature">______________
Perfection is overrated...</P>
Probably the most complete list is at Doug Smith's website:
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.w9wi.com/articles/grand_fm.htm>http://www.w9wi.com/articles/grand_fm.htm</a>
Not all these stations are over 100 kilowatts. Many on the list are grandfathered at a power level above their class/height restriction, and are considered "superpower".
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.w9wi.com/articles/grand_fm.htm>http://www.w9wi.com/articles/grand_fm.htm</a>
Not all these stations are over 100 kilowatts. Many on the list are grandfathered at a power level above their class/height restriction, and are considered "superpower".
K
k9ez
Guest
> > > is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that
> > operate
> > > OVER 100kw anywhere?
> >
> > As far as I know, there are only four:
> >
> > 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> > 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> > 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> > 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
> >
> > Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> > built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> > someone will add them on in this thread.
> >
> KZZO 100.5 Sacramento 115kW
>
KRUZ in Santa Barbara at 105kW
Pacificas LA FM KPFK
Just to think that one of our FMs was licensed for 385kW, but they moved it into the city at 50KW in the 50's. SIGH......
> > operate
> > > OVER 100kw anywhere?
> >
> > As far as I know, there are only four:
> >
> > 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> > 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> > 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> > 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
> >
> > Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> > built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> > someone will add them on in this thread.
> >
> KZZO 100.5 Sacramento 115kW
>
KRUZ in Santa Barbara at 105kW
Pacificas LA FM KPFK
Just to think that one of our FMs was licensed for 385kW, but they moved it into the city at 50KW in the 50's. SIGH......
> > > > is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that
> > > operate
> > > > OVER 100kw anywhere?
> > >
> > > As far as I know, there are only four:
> > >
> > > 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> > > 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> > > 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> > > 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
> > >
> > > Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to
> really
> > > built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> > > someone will add them on in this thread.
> > >
> > KZZO 100.5 Sacramento 115kW
> >
>
>
> KRUZ in Santa Barbara at 105kW
> Pacificas LA FM KPFK
>
> Just to think that one of our FMs was licensed for 385kW,
> but they moved it into the city at 50KW in the 50's.
> SIGH......
>
What about 290kw 99.7 WMC-FM in Memphis?
I recall reading somewhere that 94.9 WHOM, while not a grandfathered station with only 50kw, provides the coverage of about 350kw due to it's location on top of Mount Washington, NH. Before IBOC, it could be heard in parts of all 6 New England states, and parts of Quebec and New York.
> > > operate
> > > > OVER 100kw anywhere?
> > >
> > > As far as I know, there are only four:
> > >
> > > 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> > > 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> > > 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> > > 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
> > >
> > > Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to
> really
> > > built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> > > someone will add them on in this thread.
> > >
> > KZZO 100.5 Sacramento 115kW
> >
>
>
> KRUZ in Santa Barbara at 105kW
> Pacificas LA FM KPFK
>
> Just to think that one of our FMs was licensed for 385kW,
> but they moved it into the city at 50KW in the 50's.
> SIGH......
>
What about 290kw 99.7 WMC-FM in Memphis?
I recall reading somewhere that 94.9 WHOM, while not a grandfathered station with only 50kw, provides the coverage of about 350kw due to it's location on top of Mount Washington, NH. Before IBOC, it could be heard in parts of all 6 New England states, and parts of Quebec and New York.
Mt. Washington? How do they keep their antenna anchored? Mt. Washington gets some of the strongest wind gusts in the world. I think they have been over 150 MPH a few times.
> I recall reading somewhere that 94.9 WHOM, while not a
> grandfathered station with only 50kw, provides the coverage
> of about 350kw due to it's location on top of Mount
> Washington, NH. Before IBOC, it could be heard in parts of
> all 6 New England states, and parts of Quebec and New York.
>
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> I recall reading somewhere that 94.9 WHOM, while not a
> grandfathered station with only 50kw, provides the coverage
> of about 350kw due to it's location on top of Mount
> Washington, NH. Before IBOC, it could be heard in parts of
> all 6 New England states, and parts of Quebec and New York.
>
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[email protected]</P>
> KRUZ in Santa Barbara at 105kW
> Pacificas LA FM KPFK
KRUZ is no longer on the 103.3 frequency. I can't think of what the call letters are now.<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
> Pacificas LA FM KPFK
KRUZ is no longer on the 103.3 frequency. I can't think of what the call letters are now.<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
> > is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that
> operate
> > OVER 100kw anywhere?
>
> As far as I know, there are only four:
>
> 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
>
> Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> someone will add them on in this thread.
>
How did Grand Rapids end up with three flamethrowers like that?<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
> operate
> > OVER 100kw anywhere?
>
> As far as I know, there are only four:
>
> 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
>
> Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> someone will add them on in this thread.
>
How did Grand Rapids end up with three flamethrowers like that?<P ID="signature">______________
"...and the countdown continues until the neanderthals that govern college football do something about their pathetic postseason."--Tim Brando, Sporting News Radio</P>
WHOM isn't even the only station up there. WPKQ 103.7, a simulcast of WOKQ 97.5 Dover, NH is also up there, but does not put out as much wattage.
For many decades, the transmitter for WMTW-TV Channel 8 was also up there, but a few years ago it was moved down closer to it's target market of Portland, ME.
> Mt. Washington? How do they keep their antenna anchored?
> Mt. Washington gets some of the strongest wind gusts in the
> world. I think they have been over 150 MPH a few times.
>
> > I recall reading somewhere that 94.9 WHOM, while not a
> > grandfathered station with only 50kw, provides the coverage
> > of about 350kw due to it's location on top of Mount
> > Washington, NH. Before IBOC, it could be heard in parts of
> > all 6 New England states, and parts of Quebec and New York.
For many decades, the transmitter for WMTW-TV Channel 8 was also up there, but a few years ago it was moved down closer to it's target market of Portland, ME.
> Mt. Washington? How do they keep their antenna anchored?
> Mt. Washington gets some of the strongest wind gusts in the
> world. I think they have been over 150 MPH a few times.
>
> > I recall reading somewhere that 94.9 WHOM, while not a
> > grandfathered station with only 50kw, provides the coverage
> > of about 350kw due to it's location on top of Mount
> > Washington, NH. Before IBOC, it could be heard in parts of
> > all 6 New England states, and parts of Quebec and New York.
> > > is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that
> > operate
> > > OVER 100kw anywhere?
> >
> > As far as I know, there are only four:
> >
> > 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> > 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> > 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> > 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
> >
> > Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> > built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> > someone will add them on in this thread.
> >
>
> How did Grand Rapids end up with three flamethrowers like
> that?
>
They went on the air prior to the current rules. Stations that are grandfathered can't change facilities if they want to keep their flamethrowers. In the case of WBCT Grand Rapids Michigan, their signal covers both the Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo markets, but only deal with advertisements for the Grand Rapids area. Chicago I believe had some flamethrowers too in the commercial band, but those stations gave them up because the height of the flamethrowers were short & the signals got blocked by the skyscrapers.
> > operate
> > > OVER 100kw anywhere?
> >
> > As far as I know, there are only four:
> >
> > 93.7 WBCT Grand Rapids, MI: 320kW
> > 94.5 WRVQ Richmond, VA: 200kW
> > 104.1 WVGR Grand Rapids, MI: 108kW
> > 105.7 WOOD Grand Rapids, MI: 265kW
> >
> > Those are the only ones I know of... not enough to really
> > built a list with. If there are any others, I'm sure
> > someone will add them on in this thread.
> >
>
> How did Grand Rapids end up with three flamethrowers like
> that?
>
They went on the air prior to the current rules. Stations that are grandfathered can't change facilities if they want to keep their flamethrowers. In the case of WBCT Grand Rapids Michigan, their signal covers both the Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo markets, but only deal with advertisements for the Grand Rapids area. Chicago I believe had some flamethrowers too in the commercial band, but those stations gave them up because the height of the flamethrowers were short & the signals got blocked by the skyscrapers.
Here's an important question about flamethrowers. What happens to a flamethrower if the tower they're on should fall to the ground? Does the station get to rebuild back to grandfathered status, as long as it's the same site and height of tower, or do they lost that grandfathered status and end up having to comply with the current rules and the maximum power allowed for a specific area?
R
robk
Guest
Re: "flamethrowers".....yes, here's a link
> is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that operate
> OVER 100kw anywhere?
>
Here's a page dedicated to the ''largest'' FM's
http://members.aol.com/jeff1070/fm-max.html
Rob
> is there a list of stations (FM) across the US that operate
> OVER 100kw anywhere?
>
Here's a page dedicated to the ''largest'' FM's
http://members.aol.com/jeff1070/fm-max.html
Rob
K
KMRichards
Guest
> Here's an important question about flamethrowers. What
> happens to a flamethrower if the tower they're on should
> fall to the ground? Does the station get to rebuild back to
> grandfathered status, as long as it's the same site and
> height of tower, or do they lost that grandfathered status
> and end up having to comply with the current rules and the
> maximum power allowed for a specific area?
Since a CP to rebuild facilities damaged in an accident does not negate the original license, they would be able to rebuild at the same location using the licensed ERP.
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> happens to a flamethrower if the tower they're on should
> fall to the ground? Does the station get to rebuild back to
> grandfathered status, as long as it's the same site and
> height of tower, or do they lost that grandfathered status
> and end up having to comply with the current rules and the
> maximum power allowed for a specific area?
Since a CP to rebuild facilities damaged in an accident does not negate the original license, they would be able to rebuild at the same location using the licensed ERP.
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T
TXengineer
Guest
Here is a list
Unfortunatley that link doesn't have a list of those given over 100kW.
http://www.bostonradio.org/super-fm.html
has a list of 100kW plus stations...
Unfortunatley that link doesn't have a list of those given over 100kW.
http://www.bostonradio.org/super-fm.html
has a list of 100kW plus stations...
A
allisonmarie
Guest
> > Here's an important question about flamethrowers. What
> > happens to a flamethrower if the tower they're on should
> > fall to the ground? Does the station get to rebuild back
> to
> > grandfathered status, as long as it's the same site and
> > height of tower, or do they lost that grandfathered status
>
> > and end up having to comply with the current rules and the
>
> > maximum power allowed for a specific area?
>
> Since a CP to rebuild facilities damaged in an accident does
> not negate the original license, they would be able to
> rebuild at the same location using the licensed ERP.
>
So that means that KFI 640 Los Angeles can rebuild their tower knocked down by
that airplane right???? And if not what's the difference?
> > happens to a flamethrower if the tower they're on should
> > fall to the ground? Does the station get to rebuild back
> to
> > grandfathered status, as long as it's the same site and
> > height of tower, or do they lost that grandfathered status
>
> > and end up having to comply with the current rules and the
>
> > maximum power allowed for a specific area?
>
> Since a CP to rebuild facilities damaged in an accident does
> not negate the original license, they would be able to
> rebuild at the same location using the licensed ERP.
>
So that means that KFI 640 Los Angeles can rebuild their tower knocked down by
that airplane right???? And if not what's the difference?
K
KMRichards
Guest
> > Since a CP to rebuild facilities damaged in an accident
> does
> > not negate the original license, they would be able to
> > rebuild at the same location using the licensed ERP.
> >
> So that means that KFI 640 Los Angeles can rebuild their
> tower knocked down by
> that airplane right???? And if not what's the difference?
As far as the FCC is concerned, yes they can. And AMs have different rules than FM anyway (the original question was if a grandfathered FM with a higher ERP than presently allowed could rebuild after a tower fall).
The problem KFI is having, as I understand it, is with local permits to reconstruct the tower.
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> does
> > not negate the original license, they would be able to
> > rebuild at the same location using the licensed ERP.
> >
> So that means that KFI 640 Los Angeles can rebuild their
> tower knocked down by
> that airplane right???? And if not what's the difference?
As far as the FCC is concerned, yes they can. And AMs have different rules than FM anyway (the original question was if a grandfathered FM with a higher ERP than presently allowed could rebuild after a tower fall).
The problem KFI is having, as I understand it, is with local permits to reconstruct the tower.
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