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flow 93.5

would this ever change...say to a mainstream chr ?
..keeeping the hip-hop nation-station, playlist,
but adding pop-40 fave's...(avril, any thing w/ american/cdn idoL,etc,etc)..

-or, is this a true to the listener station ?
always has been, always will be ?!
 
> would this ever change...say to a mainstream chr ?
> ..keeeping the hip-hop nation-station, playlist,
> but adding pop-40 fave's...(avril, any thing w/ american/cdn
> idoL,etc,etc)..
>
> -or, is this a true to the listener station ?
> always has been, always will be ?!
>
I believe Flow will always be some form of Flow, as long as Milestone has the main hold...I do wonder in what way though? Will the focus be lots of current hip hop&R&B, or will it have more classic flow sound instead in the future?<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
> I believe Flow will always be some form of Flow, as long as
> Milestone has the main hold...I do wonder in what way
> though? Will the focus be lots of current hip hop&R&B, or
> will it have more classic flow sound instead in the future?

As for the Canadian urban stations, Flow 93-5 in T-Dot & 91-5 The Beat in Kitchener will always stay their own hiphop/R&B formats.
 
> > I believe Flow will always be some form of Flow, as long
> as
> > Milestone has the main hold...I do wonder in what way
> > though? Will the focus be lots of current hip hop&R&B, or
> > will it have more classic flow sound instead in the
> future?
>
> As for the Canadian urban stations, Flow 93-5 in T-Dot &
> 91-5 The Beat in Kitchener will always stay their own
> hiphop/R&B formats.
>
Global will most likely let Kitchener's beat change to a true CHR (or any format) if need be, but Milestone is a little more (for lack of a better word, and meant in a good way) stubborn.<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
> > > I believe Flow will always be some form of Flow, as long
>
> > as
> > > Milestone has the main hold...I do wonder in what way
> > > though? Will the focus be lots of current hip hop&R&B,
> or
> > > will it have more classic flow sound instead in the
> > future?
> >
> > As for the Canadian urban stations, Flow 93-5 in T-Dot &
> > 91-5 The Beat in Kitchener will always stay their own
> > hiphop/R&B formats.
> >
> Global will most likely let Kitchener's beat change to a
> true CHR (or any format) if need be, but Milestone is a
> little more (for lack of a better word, and meant in a good
> way) stubborn.

Probably not. Z103dot5 mostly covers as a rimshot signal to both T-Dot & Kitchener areas. Could Corus's CIMJ (Majic 106.1) be Dave's new home, meaning 107.5 could go CHR?
 
If Flow changed to a mainstream CHR, while feasable, Milestone would be going completley against the format they had orginally applied to the CRTC for, which was mainly aimed at the african-american community. Come licence renewal time, Milestone would have some tough questions to answer.

The format flow has already adopted is really pushing the bounds, let alone if they went CHR.
 
> If Flow changed to a mainstream CHR, while feasable,
> Milestone would be going completley against the format they
> had orginally applied to the CRTC for, which was mainly
> aimed at the african-american community. Come licence
> renewal time, Milestone would have some tough questions to
> answer.
>
> The format flow has already adopted is really pushing the
> bounds, let alone if they went CHR.
>
To quote someone from staff, shortly before Flow first signed on:

"We understand that 60 percent of our listener base will be white, but we are pleased to deliver something very different to the listener, that is not yet available in the Toronto market."

(The article was in the Metro news free newspaper.) I gather, whatever flow does in the future, will STRICTLY be something that is not already offered as a format in the Toronto market...Which leads me to believe they will continue to do more of the same format...but, as mentioned already...more new flow, or more classic flow...that's the best question to ask!<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
> > If Flow changed to a mainstream CHR, while feasable,
> > Milestone would be going completley against the format
> they
> > had orginally applied to the CRTC for, which was mainly
> > aimed at the african-american community. Come licence
> > renewal time, Milestone would have some tough questions to
>
> > answer.
> >
> > The format flow has already adopted is really pushing the
> > bounds, let alone if they went CHR.
> >
> To quote someone from staff, shortly before Flow first
> signed on:
>
> "We understand that 60 percent of our listener base will be
> white, but we are pleased to deliver something very
> different to the listener, that is not yet available in the
> Toronto market."
>
> (The article was in the Metro news free newspaper.) I
> gather, whatever flow does in the future, will STRICTLY be
> something that is not already offered as a format in the
> Toronto market...Which leads me to believe they will
> continue to do more of the same format...but, as mentioned
> already...more new flow, or more classic flow...that's the
> best question to ask!
>


FLOW will never change as long as Milestone's in charge. The Beat in Kitchener? Just a matter of time. How long can you operate with a 5 or 6 share in a small city like Kitchener? Doesn't make sense. Give it a few more months.
 
> If Flow changed to a mainstream CHR, while feasable,
> Milestone would be going completley against the format they
> had orginally applied to the CRTC for, which was mainly
> aimed at the african-american community. Come licence
> renewal time, Milestone would have some tough questions to
> answer.

No they wouldn't. They're not a specialty license and can switch to any non-specialty format they want.
 
> FLOW will never change as long as Milestone's in charge. The
> Beat in Kitchener? Just a matter of time. How long can you
> operate with a 5 or 6 share in a small city like Kitchener?
> Doesn't make sense. Give it a few more months.
>
Not doubting you, but never change?...how about tweak?...or...adjust accordingly, depending on the demand for more of one or the other, in respect to new and classic Flow sound on 93.5.

The Kitchener station (91.5 the Beat) should survive until at least a big new year count down...we'll see what kind of a count down it is then...(opinion, respectfully)

<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
 
> > If Flow changed to a mainstream CHR, while feasable,
> > Milestone would be going completley against the format
> they
> > had orginally applied to the CRTC for, which was mainly
> > aimed at the african-american community. Come licence
> > renewal time, Milestone would have some tough questions to
>
> > answer.
>
> No they wouldn't. They're not a specialty license and can
> switch to any non-specialty format they want.
>
The 93.5 frequency is restricted in some ways.
For example,(Strictly example) if they were to switch to a station that targets gays and lesbians, wouldn't that be unfair to the Evanov group (I think it was them) who originally applied to have the licence for that purpose on 93.5?

I believe that if they do make any major change, it is in their BEST interest not to change to a format that another company applied to do on that frequency, because it would just show that that other company deserves the licence instead.
It's just not fair to who ever originally applied for the licence to do the other format.
<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by YeziKnoradio on 07/25/05 01:44 AM.</FONT></P>
 
>
> The 93.5 frequency is restricted in some ways.

No more than any other commercial non-specialy station.

> For example,(Strictly example) if they were to switch to a
> station that targets gays and lesbians, wouldn't that be
> unfair to the Evanov group (I think it was them) who
> originally applied to have the licence for that purpose on
> 93.5?

So? Doesn't mean they can't.

> I believe that if they do make any major change, it is in
> their BEST interest not to change to a format that another
> company applied to do on that frequency, because it would
> just show that that other company deserves the licence
> instead.

Again, so what?! It's in their best interest to flip to whatever will make them the most money and/or satisfy the vision of the owners.
 
> > If Flow changed to a mainstream CHR, while feasable,
> > Milestone would be going completley against the format
> they
> > had orginally applied to the CRTC for, which was mainly
> > aimed at the african-american community. Come licence
> > renewal time, Milestone would have some tough questions to
>
> > answer.
>
> No they wouldn't. They're not a specialty license and can
> switch to any non-specialty format they want.
>
Factually, that is correct but, for example, when Milestone has to renew Flow's licence and the CRTC recieves a truckload of complaints about Flow not sticking to its licence mandate and changing to a mainstream CHR station, dropping all the talent initatives and such, the CRTC may be less willing to renew or offer Milestone another licence in a different market.

Another example is when Flow went for a power increase about two years ago, the CRTC received a number of complaints from disgruntled listeners about dropping the jazz and gospel programming, if Milestone hadn't written a good response to those complaints, Flow may have not gotten the power increase.
 
> Factually, that is correct but, for example, when Milestone
> has to renew Flow's licence and the CRTC recieves a
> truckload of complaints about Flow not sticking to its
> licence mandate and changing to a mainstream CHR station,
> dropping all the talent initatives and such, the CRTC may be
> less willing to renew or offer Milestone another licence in
> a different market.
>
> Another example is when Flow went for a power increase about
> two years ago, the CRTC received a number of complaints from
> disgruntled listeners about dropping the jazz and gospel
> programming, if Milestone hadn't written a good response to
> those complaints, Flow may have not gotten the power
> increase.
>

Not true at all. If they're not breaking any rules, they'll get any technical changes and renewals they get anyway.

It didn't stop Newcap from getting a new license in Ottawa.

The CRTC is almost completely out of the busniness of regulating formats.
 
Flow change? I work downtown (meaning lately i live here), and I see Flow everywhere. Thing is, FLOW is targetting a huge immigrant population in Toronto and how many of them are filling out diaries? Easily the most listened to radio station in this office tower is Flow 93.5.

The Beat? CHR within a year.

> >
> Not doubting you, but never change?...how about
> tweak?...or...adjust accordingly, depending on the demand
> for more of one or the other, in respect to new and classic
> Flow sound on 93.5.
>
> The Kitchener station (91.5 the Beat) should survive until
> at least a big new year count down...we'll see what kind of
> a count down it is then...(opinion, respectfully)
>
 
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