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FM Band Conditions
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You bet...I'm 23 miles from 97.1 WLHK/Indianapolis and Somerset,KY on 97.1 was tearing it to shreds.
BobOnTheJob said:
I noted similar conditions in Lexington this morning. Local DTV was "not there" UNLESS I had the yagi (up 55 feet) aimed right at the transmitters (about 8-10 miles from me). Local NOAA weather on 162.40 was WIPED OUT as were all the other NOAA frequencies. I was receiving Nashville, Huntsville, Knoxville, Roanoke, Charleston DTV stations. All the rimshot FMs which are usually clear (96.1, 100.7. 106.7, 105.1, etc.) were totally wiped out in SW Lexington.
I noticed on the way to work this morning some other station on 93.3 was killing WDNS here in Glasgow. Also noticed some station from Teuplo MS on 101.9 coming in like a local. Also something was killing WKYU 88.9 probably WEKU.
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Yes at my location in Danville even the big boys out of Lex were unlistenable. 92.1 was replaced by WROU Dayton. 92.9, 94.5, 96.9, 98.1 were all a mess. Local 105.1 WRNZ was only reaching 5 miles with 3kw of power. I did listen to Steve Harvey on WUBT 101.1 like a local. This is a Nashville station that wiped out WSGS from Hazard which owns that frequency around here.
From north Lexington (Russell Cave Rd. near Iron Works Pike intersection), 102.5 was fighting it out with WPRT, Nashville. Some of the Lexington Class A's were choppy (103.3, 106.3, 95.3, 101.5, etc.). The big guys (Class C's) were fine. 93.9 out of Somerset was crystal clear and rock solid in northern Fayette, where it is normally almost nonexistent. 92.5 out of Owensboro, 95.1 Bowling Green, 95.5 Prestonsburg, 96.1 Owensboro, 96.5 (WXCC) Pikeville area, 97.1 Somerset, 101.1 Nashville, 107.1 Bowling Green, and 107.5 Nashville were all coming in loud and clear. A few others were there on other frequencies but I didn't get the chance to ID them.
Probably a temperature inversion. The two-meter ham band was also open yesterday morning.
Here is an interesting paper on the subject.
http://www.grahambrock.com/downloads/INVERSIONS.pdf
Here is an interesting paper on the subject.
http://www.grahambrock.com/downloads/INVERSIONS.pdf
Morning DJ, Karl Shannon, reported that USA 101 (also on 100.7 and located in the Chattanooga area) would occasionally come through his off the air monitor at the WCYO studios located about 12 miles from the transmitter. There were also phone calls, from Chattanooga, that WCYO was taking out their local station.
I expect if this condition repeats, Kelly will send his sales team down Chattanooga way. LOL
I expect if this condition repeats, Kelly will send his sales team down Chattanooga way. LOL
lcook said:
Les why do your jocks on the weekend try and give the current time? Today Johnny was about 5 minutes off.
wakyjr said:
Well within the city grade? Uh, no. The city grade is 3.16 mV/M, or 70 DBU.
Shively is barely within WAKY's 1 mV/M contour, which is the "interference protected contour"- not the city grade.
See here: http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n225/greghahn/Other Radio/WAKY.png
Does anyone think the WAKY from 45 years ago would have been the success it was if it had been voice tracked? And that was when the choices were quite limited. You can hire 3-4 $10/hr people to serve 10 customers an hour at the local hardware store but in radio we can't hire 1 $10/hr jock to serve tens of thousands of customers per hour. On top of that, there are a darn sight more hardware stores than radio stations. Pretty short sighted if you ask me.storrs19 said:radioville said:
Lol. They're trying to fool some of the people into thinking there's actually a live person there and not a voice track
WOW!!! Not much love for WAKY on this board. First of all for Radioville. Not my call, discussions continue on that issue. It's not really that important an issue to me because I don't really think most listeners care. This is not a perfict world and not everybodys watch is set at exactly the same time. For Storrs19. We are not trying to fool anybody. With WAKY what you hear is what you get. We are locally owned and locally programed and as an independent station we don't have the resources that the big companies have. We voice track because we want our talent to have a life. I happen to know that WAKY is not the only radio station in Louisville that voice tracks. And I know that WAKY uses all local talent and we bust ass on the air every time we crack that mic. So laugh it up funny boy! It's easy to tear something down but it's hard to build something. I choose to build. Ok, bobOnTheJob, I grew up with the WAKY of 45 years ago and that was the best station I have ever heard and I've worked 2 major markets and plenty of medium and small ones. I have lstened to airchecks of all the great jocks and some of the not so great jocks. And you're right about the choices being limited at that time. Johnny Randolph went to great lengths to find and hire the best talent he could afford. We do that today at WAKY. Radio ain't no hardware store. We have to sell this invisable thing we call "Air-Time" to make money and it is a challange. Maybe there are some things about the Radio Business that you can't see. I gotta go...I've got production to do because our sales team has been busy. We are building a radio station here and we're too busy to waste time tearing something down. Peace & Love Fellababies! Les Cook
Quite the contrary Les...when I pass through Louisville, WAKY is must listen radio for me...it's a class act and I admire your efforts. I've been in radio since 1967 and understand engineering very well and programming to a degree but couldn't sell an air conditioner to a millionaire in the desert southwest. So my understanding of the business is a little lopsided. I don't recall 79 WAKY having their weekday stars on over the weekend, so I guess I'm still unmoved on the wisdom of not having decent part timers on live during the weekend and at night (or is the day of the 'decent part timer' long gone??). The radio that we saw in the 60's and 70's had what I'd now call the "killer app" where the listener could call the station at any hour of the day or night and communicate with the guy in the air chair and the guy in the air chair could use (or not use) the result of that call to create a bond with that listener--and entertain the audience as well. Either way, the caller talked with the jock on the phone and then heard the jock on the air and the 'magic' of radio was perpetuated. With voice tracking, that magic (which money can't buy--but a live human can create) is voluntarily thrown away in the name of saving $10 or less an hour. Presumably the Voice Trackers are paid something per hour for their efforts and if that translates to say $3/hr, then the magic element is being tossed out for less than minimum wage.lcook said:
While WAKY is a delight, the poster who mentioned the time being wrong has a point. 45 years ago, if the time given was wrong, how would anyone know? Nowadays, a very accurate clock is in every cell phone. For anyone who keeps an eye on the clock, the voice on the radio giving an incorrect time check paints the jock and/or station in an unfavorable light at best. Many automation systems allow the jock to record the time and temperature in their own voices and insert them on the fly. WDJO in Cincinnati had that and I was convinced that their morning show was live a few years ago (and I am very hard to fool on that topic). There are better ways to make a station sound live than just hoping it turns out close.
If you are comfortable doing so in a public forum, please explain all of the things that go into deciding whether a shift is live or VT'd. Is it all about the money, is it about the available talent pool or are there other things at play? I'd be interested in knowing more about the thought process that goes into the live vs VT equation at a station that is allowed to make that call in house.
lcook said:
LOL great post Les.
And I have to say to BobOntheJob- I totally hear what you are saying. But I also know that $10 per hour disk jockeys really suck, and their weekend counterparts would have to be even worse. I remember the 80s, wanting to drive my car off the Kennedy bridge when I heard some of the weekenders on WRKA. And this was then RKA was #3 in the market.
And that was when radio was cool- and people WANTED to be disk jockeys. There have to be less people like that now than there used to be. I think it's awesome that WAKY is raising up local talent for the industry. I wish there were more stations like that.
I really DO think that if owners could accept a little bit of a smaller profit, they could make radio better, and maybe bring back some of the coolness again. But I also don't think it can everr be like it used to be.
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