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FM nested repeater proposed for CFZM 740 in Toronto

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Dan Sys

MZ Media has applied for an FM nested repeater located in downtown Toronto to rebroadcast CFZM AM 740. The new station will operate on 96.7 with 27.3 watts (100 watts maximum ERP). Tower height will be 280 metres (EHAAT) and the radiation pattern will be directional.

MZ Media states that reception of CFZM 740 has been severely impaired by electrical interference from streetcars, blockage from hundreds of high-rise buildings which act as electronic shields to the AM 740 signal, bridges, viaducts, etc. Reception within high-rise buildings in the city core is virtually impossible.
 
Why doesn't anyone push for 89.9, 90.7, 91.5, 101.7, 104.9 or 107.5 for lower powered stations in Toronto? Does 2nd adjacent still matter? Radios these days are pretty selective. Look at 98.7/99.1 or 103.5/103.9. They come in fine with no interference to each other. There is still lots of room on the FM band in Toronto especially downtown.

M in Toronto
 
reasons why

when radio glendon was using 89.9 at 1 watt a condition of their licence that was requested by cjkx 89.9 sunderland was that their transmitter be shut off when no programming was being aired. anything more than 1 watt i think the cbc at 90.3 would squawk. i don't think cjrt 91.1 would allow a station at 90.7. i don't think cjrt or chin 91.9 would like anyone at 91.5. 2nd adjacent still requires permission from the neighbouring frequency. i don't think 101.5 orangeville would like anyone at 101.7 ( 103.5 orangeville owns 103.9 toronto ) and cfny 102.1 probably wouldn't like it either. 104.9 would be 1st adjacent to 105.1 choq so that's out. 107.5 probably wouldn't get an ok from 107.1 cilq or 107.9 burlington or even 107.7 oshawa. 96.7 would be 2nd adjacent to 96.3 ( same owner ) and would only be 27.3 watts and directional. i'm guessing 97.3 chbm would be ok with it as they seem to be ok with 96.9 ckhc at 60 watts. my guess anyways.

Unregistered said:
Why doesn't anyone push for 89.9, 90.7, 91.5, 101.7, 104.9 or 107.5 for lower powered stations in Toronto? Does 2nd adjacent still matter? Radios these days are pretty selective. Look at 98.7/99.1 or 103.5/103.9. They come in fine with no interference to each other. There is still lots of room on the FM band in Toronto especially downtown.

M in Toronto
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Unregistered said:
when radio glendon was using 89.9 at 1 watt a condition of their licence that was requested by cjkx 89.9 sunderland was that their transmitter be shut off when no programming was being aired. anything more than 1 watt i think the cbc at 90.3 would squawk. i don't think cjrt 91.1 would allow a station at 90.7. i don't think cjrt or chin 91.9 would like anyone at 91.5. 2nd adjacent still requires permission from the neighbouring frequency. i don't think 101.5 orangeville would like anyone at 101.7 ( 103.5 orangeville owns 103.9 toronto ) and cfny 102.1 probably wouldn't like it either. 104.9 would be 1st adjacent to 105.1 choq so that's out. 107.5 probably wouldn't get an ok from 107.1 cilq or 107.9 burlington or even 107.7 oshawa. 96.7 would be 2nd adjacent to 96.3 ( same owner ) and would only be 27.3 watts and directional. i'm guessing 97.3 chbm would be ok with it as they seem to be ok with 96.9 ckhc at 60 watts. my guess anyways.
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Don't forget that Toronto also has 101.3 FM in use for multicultural purposes.
If 101.5 is even lucky enough to pick up in Toronto, it'll most likely not come in any better than Welland's 91.7 does now.
(91.7 is hard to pick up thanks to 91.9, while 101.3 = hard to pick up 101.5)

So, that being said, that's 101.3 and 102.1 together making 101.7 a tough signal to make use of in Toronto.

Another important note: 90.3 French CBC bleeds into 90.7 all the time, so I sure wouldn't want that headache if I were trying to laucnch a new radio station or repeater in Toronto!
 
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96.7 will not be a catholic station !

i don't hear lorne gunter complaining this time! of course he's not homophobic. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIRR-FM )

Dan Sys said:
MZ Media has applied for an FM nested repeater located in downtown Toronto to rebroadcast CFZM AM 740. The new station will operate on 96.7 with 27.3 watts (100 watts maximum ERP). Tower height will be 280 metres (EHAAT) and the radiation pattern will be directional.

MZ Media states that reception of CFZM 740 has been severely impaired by electrical interference from streetcars, blockage from hundreds of high-rise buildings which act as electronic shields to the AM 740 signal, bridges, viaducts, etc. Reception within high-rise buildings in the city core is virtually impossible.
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My point was that the whole 2nd adjacent rule needs to be thrown away. Even a cheap-ish radio can easily separate stations these days. My $40 Tecsun (admittedly a superb FM radio) can pull in a weak 96.1 from Buffalo with absolutely NO adjacent channel interference from 95.9 or 96.3.

The Radio Glendon thing is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. You had to almost be on the school grounds to pick them up at all.

M in Toronto

Unregistered said:
when radio glendon was using 89.9 at 1 watt a condition of their licence that was requested by cjkx 89.9 sunderland was that their transmitter be shut off when no programming was being aired. anything more than 1 watt i think the cbc at 90.3 would squawk. i don't think cjrt 91.1 would allow a station at 90.7. i don't think cjrt or chin 91.9 would like anyone at 91.5. 2nd adjacent still requires permission from the neighbouring frequency. i don't think 101.5 orangeville would like anyone at 101.7 ( 103.5 orangeville owns 103.9 toronto ) and cfny 102.1 probably wouldn't like it either. 104.9 would be 1st adjacent to 105.1 choq so that's out. 107.5 probably wouldn't get an ok from 107.1 cilq or 107.9 burlington or even 107.7 oshawa. 96.7 would be 2nd adjacent to 96.3 ( same owner ) and would only be 27.3 watts and directional. i'm guessing 97.3 chbm would be ok with it as they seem to be ok with 96.9 ckhc at 60 watts. my guess anyways.
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I disagree. I have 6 radios...and half of them don't get all the local FM stations. Only one gets all the locals clearly. Cheap radios overload, and while you may be far enough from the CN tower to not have to deal with it...even car radios overload driving past the tower. I've lost local FM stations driving past there. If the second adjacent rule went away, you'd suddenly find in the most densely populated areas, only a very very few stations are heard.
 
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