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FM Sports Prediction

It's just a matter of time until the Valley gets an FM Sports Parking Lot. When? Will it be a rim shot or a South Mtn stick? Will TMISU sacrifice The Peak in favor of what's on 6~Twenty? SeeBS is doing very well with FM Sports across the fruited plain...so Nurse Jeff and I want to know when we'll get one.
 
When last I looked, CBS' KMLE wasn't doing well as a country station. Might KMLE be a candidate to become 107.9 The Fan? In Cleveland, CBS will flip modern rocker Radio 92.3 to 92.3 The Fan Aug 29.

The Peak is apparently doing better than KMLE. Bonneville must decide if it's worth sacrificing the income they get from KPKX to justify flipping it to sports. Bonneville has a huge advantage in that it holds the rights to all the pro teams in the Valley (except the Coyotes) and AZ State football and men's b-ball. 98.7 would be the flag station for all the teams, with 620 available for conflict games. The Suns would likely have priority on 98.7 while an overlapping AZ State men's b-ball game could go to 620, which is a quantum leap over 860.

CBS missed a chance in SF to flip low-rated rocker KITS to sports, when Entercom dropped country on 95.7 for sports. When it comes to sports, CBS rarely misses an opportunity. :)
 
landtuna said:
What? Someone actually listens to sports on the radio?

You do if you don't have cable/satellite and want to follow all Phoenix teams other than the Cards. No Fox Sports Net, no local play-by-play on TV except for the NFL.
 
I see your point for games but I was thinking more of the endless blather that sports talk radio seems to be. I don't know why anyone, unless they like bombastic personalities picking arguments, would tune in to listen to someone talk endlessly about something so benign as sports.
 
landtuna said:
I don't know why anyone, unless they like bombastic personalities picking arguments, would tune in to listen to someone talk endlessly about something so benign as sports.


But they do...and in ever increasing numbers :D Having some of the PBP helps, but Los Buckeye Boyz are beginning to think it really doesn't matter. Doing it where almost 100% of the audience under the age of 55 listen does.
 
Dr. Akbar said:
landtuna said:
I don't know why anyone, unless they like bombastic personalities picking arguments, would tune in to listen to someone talk endlessly about something so benign as sports.

But they do...and in ever increasing numbers :D Having some of the PBP helps, but Los Buckeye Boyz are beginning to think it really doesn't matter. Doing it where almost 100% of the audience under the age of 55 listen does.

But does anyone really want to listen to Noo Yawk/Bahstun-centric ESPN Radio on FM instead of AM? TMISU have decided to, at least unofficially, become ESPN Radio 620, and will cut the local programming to between Noon and 6 later this month. That's all a future KMVP-FM/ESPN Radio 98.7 (assuming those would be the call letters of a TMISU-owned FM sports station) would be for the most part, other than games.

And I can't see SeeBS blowing up any of their FMs for news, sports, or anything else that would require being live, local, and expensive in this market.
 
I always thought I was a pretty big sports guy (played, watched, attended etc.) but it seems like there are only two types of sports shows:

1. The two (or more) hosts agree violently with each other and the discussion becomes a love fest (usually for the local teams/players/upcoming games). Or...

2. The two (or more) hosts disagree violently with each other and the ensuing argument becomes a shout fest that is extremely difficult to follow and usually boils down to opinion and/or a battle of statistics.

(A third type is the "coaches corner" type show whereby the coach shows up to apologize and critique his team's latest fiasco. I don't consider this a bonafide sports talk show though.)

I can see this type of show being successful in certain cities with a long history of sports teams (NY, Chicago, Bah-stun, St. Louis and even *choke* Philadelphia) but not in Phoenix. And if you consider the already functioning national TV/radio sports shows it makes even less sense.

I'm not a radio guru as are Los Buckeye Boyz and readily admit I would have no idea how to fill a 24X7 broadcast schedule with compelling sports talk in this town.
 
Dr. Akbar said:
It's just a matter of time until the Valley gets an FM Sports Parking Lot. When? Will it be a rim shot or a South Mtn stick? Will TMISU sacrifice The Peak in favor of what's on 6~Twenty? SeeBS is doing very well with FM Sports across the fruited plain...so Nurse Jeff and I want to know when we'll get one.

I agree. And IIRC, wasn't KSLX simulcasting Cardinals games for a while?
 
indieradioguy said:
I agree. And IIRC, wasn't KSLX simulcasting Cardinals games for a while?

IIRC, the Cards considered KDUS and KSLX to be co-flagships, although most of the pre- and post-game programming was only on 1060. The Cards have been on FM or simulcasts since 1994 (KEZ, KGLQ/KIDR, KSLX/KDUS, and now KTAR-FM).
 
I seem to remember that in 2001, when the D-Backs went to the World Series, that one of the Phoenix papers felt compelled to write an article which explained the rules and terminology of baseball. Our local media (Boston) had some condescending fun with that (as liberal moonbats are prone to do). This does beg the question, however, as to whether Phoenix would support a sports station.
 
Given the signal strength of KDUS (awful at night if you live in the SE Valley), an FM sports talker might be a good idea. As a layman, I don't know what the right "mix" of local and national shows would be, but if you could include the big boys (Rome, Patrick, maybe Tony Bruno) with the best local talent (Gambadoro, Wolfley, IMO), I think a lot of fans would tune in. XTRA lost me on weekends with NASCAR, but a national NFL broadcast on Sundays would sound a lot better on FM. Just my .02.
 
flashman1 said:
Given the signal strength of KDUS (awful at night if you live in the SE Valley), an FM sports talker might be a good idea. As a layman, I don't know what the right "mix" of local and national shows would be, but if you could include the big boys (Rome, Patrick, maybe Tony Bruno) with the best local talent (Gambadoro, Wolfley, IMO), I think a lot of fans would tune in. XTRA lost me on weekends with NASCAR, but a national NFL broadcast on Sundays would sound a lot better on FM. Just my .02.

Rome and Patrick are married to XTRA 910 due to their CC-owned syndication. KDUS is doing better now, but they still need someone to replace Bruce Jacobs in early afternoons (Gambo & Ash, once their contracts with KTAR expire?).

But they do need to be on a full-signal FM, not just a couple of HD2 feeds that nobody can hear anyway. Trouble is, what Gumpdusky FM is doing badly enough to blow up?
 
I like the idea of Gambo and Ash on KDUS. Dave Burns is a good guy and good on the air, but he's not Ash, and the KTAR changes that are on the way are really not welcome as far as my tastes are concerned.

Chuck and Vince do a really good show and bookending them with Gambo and Ash in the PM (if that's even possible) would make KDUS more of a player.
 
buster2 said:
I like the idea of Gambo and Ash on KDUS. Dave Burns is a good guy and good on the air, but he's not Ash, and the KTAR changes that are on the way are really not welcome as far as my tastes are concerned.

Neither does he mesh well with Gambo. He's better off as a solo act.

Chuck and Vince do a really good show and bookending them with Gambo and Ash in the PM (if that's even possible) would make KDUS more of a player.

C&V, Bob Kemp, and G&A would be a great lineup. Then we'd just have to deal with Rock & Manuch.

They need to carry more play-by-play other than ASU baseball and Nebraska football. Trouble is, they'd need a full-market signal at night in order to make any PxP successful.
 
KeithE4 said:
Trouble is, they'd need a full-market signal at night in order to make any PxP successful.

If I had an unlimited pile of cash and the Sandusky cluster, I'd shift KDKB back to classic rock, put sports on 100.7, and make a run at some PxP rights. It would no longer be a "rock wall" but you'd still dominate men 18-34 and 25-54 between 93.3, 97.9, and 100.7.

But I don't.
 
johndavis said:
KeithE4 said:
Trouble is, they'd need a full-market signal at night in order to make any PxP successful.

If I had an unlimited pile of cash and the Sandusky cluster, I'd shift KDKB back to classic rock, put sports on 100.7, and make a run at some PxP rights. It would no longer be a "rock wall" but you'd still dominate men 18-34 and 25-54 between 93.3, 97.9, and 100.7.

I dunno. I would think that sports on 93.3 would work better - keeping all the talk at one end of the dial (91.5, 92.3, 93.3).

But I don't.

Neither do I. ;D
 
johndavis said:
If I had an unlimited pile of cash and the Sandusky cluster, I'd shift KDKB back to classic rock, put sports on 100.7...

Why tend to confuse some of your listeners? K-Slacks 100.7 is already classic rock,
so just leave it alone and flip KDKB 93.3 to jock talk. Both are 100-gallon signals.
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
Why tend to confuse some of your listeners? K-Slacks 100.7 is already classic rock,
so just leave it alone and flip KDKB 93.3 to jock talk. Both are 100-gallon signals.

Plus Gumpdusky has one and a half AMs to carry any overflow! ASU Women's b'ball on 14~Forty and Men's wrestling on 10~Sixty. That keeps the jock talk goin' on Sports Parkinglot 93~Three!
 
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