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FM Streamlining Comments RM Petition

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FCC reports 213 new Rulemaking Petitions and wants to close the floodgates. All new RM Petitions on hold awaiting settlement and conclusion of current mess.

Questions include: City of license changes, how easy should it be? Should RM petitions be limited to 5 moves or less? Others.

Why not amke the commercial side mirror the NCE side. Multiple channel changes are impossible because they would eb "contingent apps" and not processed. After one changes anotehr can unless a waiver is submitted requesting a contingent change.

Any comments on LPFM and translators being processed as protected stations with "Class A Status?"
 
The rulemaking would make city of license changes minor changes, though apparently you would still have to demonstrate the town you are leaving still has some kind of service (which could be a daytime AM or non-com FM) and that the new city is an identifiable community and separate from the metro city.

Since the Commission has been allowing most of the changes proposed by the big boys anyway, the rule change simply eliminates a step & allows the few of us left not owned by a major conglomerate to make these changes without buying a new yacht for some Washington legal beagle.

Also avoids protracted legal battles over these channnel moves.

Whether it is good policy is another question. The developing trend is for Clear Channel to spin off the smaller markets, to improve their cash position and Wall Street prospects. But this will simply equalize the holdings among the first tier companies, these clusters will probably be sold as groups instead of individually. We will still have too many markets where one or two companies control most of the viable stations in the market. This rulemaking will simply allow greater opportunities for concentration of voices among fewer players.

The LPFM question arises in a different rulemaking. I see merit in protecting LPFM's against new translators. Especially since most of the new translators are nothing more than added outlets for satellite fed "God Boxes." I would have mixed feelings about allowing new LPFM's to bump existing translators, since I rely on several for coverage here in hill country. Especially where the only LPFM's that have gotten off the ground locally are also religious stations.

However, many of the translator applications in the 13,000 + flood of recent apps would not work as LPFM channels. For that matter, about half of these applications should be dismissed if the Commission would follow its own rules. Unfortunately, the Media Bureau has decided to carve an exception to the interference rules that swallows the rule, allowing translators inside the protected contours of other stations.

Giving LPFM's protected status against future moves of full power stations also has some merit. It has been established practice to allow one station to displace another's frequency (but not coverage) in order to improve the first station's service. So, in many cases, especially where a full power must move because a site is lost, there may well be an alternative channel available for the LPFM. A new antenna & engineering for a substitue channel for the LPFM is a minor cost to the full power FM.

The HDTV transistion required many full-power FM's to move off TV towers. But most of these displacements have already worked their way through the system. Most of the futures moves that would bump up against an exisitng LPFM would likely be these moves into metro areas from suburban locations. I would argue the value of protecting existing LPFMS over new 10th or 20th full power service in those cases, especially where there are no alternative channels available for the LPFM
 
> The rulemaking would make city of license changes minor
> changes, though apparently you would still have to
> demonstrate the town you are leaving still has some kind of
> service (which could be a daytime AM or non-com FM) and that
> the new city is an identifiable community and separate from
> the metro city.
>
> Since the Commission has been allowing most of the changes
> proposed by the big boys anyway, the rule change simply
> eliminates a step & allows the few of us left not owned by a
> major conglomerate to make these changes without buying a
> new yacht for some Washington legal beagle.
>
> Also avoids protracted legal battles over these channnel
> moves.
>
> Whether it is good policy is another question. The
> developing trend is for Clear Channel to spin off the
> smaller markets, to improve their cash position and Wall
> Street prospects. But this will simply equalize the holdings
> among the first tier companies, these clusters will probably
> be sold as groups instead of individually. We will still
> have too many markets where one or two companies control
> most of the viable stations in the market. This rulemaking
> will simply allow greater opportunities for concentration of
> voices among fewer players.
>
> The LPFM question arises in a different rulemaking. I see
> merit in protecting LPFM's against new translators.
> Especially since most of the new translators are nothing
> more than added outlets for satellite fed "God Boxes." I
> would have mixed feelings about allowing new LPFM's to bump
> existing translators, since I rely on several for coverage
> here in hill country. Especially where the only LPFM's that
> have gotten off the ground locally are also religious
> stations.
>
> However, many of the translator applications in the 13,000 +
> flood of recent apps would not work as LPFM channels. For
> that matter, about half of these applications should be
> dismissed if the Commission would follow its own rules.
> Unfortunately, the Media Bureau has decided to carve an
> exception to the interference rules that swallows the rule,
> allowing translators inside the protected contours of other
> stations.
>
> Giving LPFM's protected status against future moves of full
> power stations also has some merit. It has been established
> practice to allow one station to displace another's
> frequency (but not coverage) in order to improve the first
> station's service. So, in many cases, especially where a
> full power must move because a site is lost, there may well
> be an alternative channel available for the LPFM. A new
> antenna & engineering for a substitue channel for the LPFM
> is a minor cost to the full power FM.
>
> The HDTV transistion required many full-power FM's to move
> off TV towers. But most of these displacements have already
> worked their way through the system. Most of the futures
> moves that would bump up against an exisitng LPFM would
> likely be these moves into metro areas from suburban
> locations. I would argue the value of protecting existing
> LPFMS over new 10th or 20th full power service in those
> cases, especially where there are no alternative channels
> available for the LPFM
>
This NPRM 05-210 is a bunch of horsepucky, plain and simple. This is First Broadcastings' latest attempt to circumvent the whole process, and establishing a swift "move-in" process in light of all of the trouble they have had recently.
Just take a look at MB Docket 02-136 (Covington, WA) and 02-376 (Sells, AZ). This has to do with using "backfilled" vacant allotments to cure and remedy a loss of service in areas left by a moved station. And it gets even better, thinking that they will lose these cases (because this is Commission policy right now....."backfilled vacant allotments are NO SUBSTITUE FOR ACTUAL SERVICE"), what did they do? Why they purchased an allotment in Condon, Oregon (pop 745)and now they've "cured" the problem of leaving no service for 1800 people. Yet First Broadcasting is on the record in RM-10960 admitting that they will not build out a station in a very small town. This is very crafty, I'd say. FCC staff, don't fall for this behavior. Thank god the Staff saw through this recently in dening the issue of removing "non-viable" allotments in this NPRM. So they move into an urban area from 133 miles away, backfill with allotments that won't be built out, leave 1800 people with absolutely no radio service, buy an allotment in po-dunk Oregon (Condon is described as a semi-ghost town), and petition the FCC to remove allotments (non-viable) that they themselves are creating. What a bunch of nonsense. See for yourselves. I hope some staff members are looking at this board, because we are just not going to take it anymore.


Here are the sources: You might need to plug in 02-136 and 02-376 under "proceeding" . http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/websql/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.hts

And here's the Condon, Oregon allotment owned by the majority owner of......First Broadcasting. http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=164221
It's 100,000 watts at 288 meters HAAT. Would YOU build a 100,000 watt facility in the middle of friggin' NOWHERE?
 
> > The rulemaking would make city of license changes minor
> > changes, though apparently you would still have to
> > demonstrate the town you are leaving still has some kind
> of
> > service (which could be a daytime AM or non-com FM) and
> that
> > the new city is an identifiable community and separate
> from
> > the metro city.
> >
> > Since the Commission has been allowing most of the changes
>
> > proposed by the big boys anyway, the rule change simply
> > eliminates a step & allows the few of us left not owned by
> a
> > major conglomerate to make these changes without buying a
> > new yacht for some Washington legal beagle.
> >
> > Also avoids protracted legal battles over these channnel
> > moves.
> >
> > Whether it is good policy is another question. The
> > developing trend is for Clear Channel to spin off the
> > smaller markets, to improve their cash position and Wall
> > Street prospects. But this will simply equalize the
> holdings
> > among the first tier companies, these clusters will
> probably
> > be sold as groups instead of individually. We will still
> > have too many markets where one or two companies control
> > most of the viable stations in the market. This
> rulemaking
> > will simply allow greater opportunities for concentration
> of
> > voices among fewer players.
> >
> > The LPFM question arises in a different rulemaking. I see
> > merit in protecting LPFM's against new translators.
> > Especially since most of the new translators are nothing
> > more than added outlets for satellite fed "God Boxes." I
> > would have mixed feelings about allowing new LPFM's to
> bump
> > existing translators, since I rely on several for coverage
>
> > here in hill country. Especially where the only LPFM's
> that
> > have gotten off the ground locally are also religious
> > stations.
> >
> > However, many of the translator applications in the 13,000
> +
> > flood of recent apps would not work as LPFM channels. For
>
> > that matter, about half of these applications should be
> > dismissed if the Commission would follow its own rules.
> > Unfortunately, the Media Bureau has decided to carve an
> > exception to the interference rules that swallows the
> rule,
> > allowing translators inside the protected contours of
> other
> > stations.
> >
> > Giving LPFM's protected status against future moves of
> full
> > power stations also has some merit. It has been
> established
> > practice to allow one station to displace another's
> > frequency (but not coverage) in order to improve the first
>
> > station's service. So, in many cases, especially where a
> > full power must move because a site is lost, there may
> well
> > be an alternative channel available for the LPFM. A new
> > antenna & engineering for a substitue channel for the LPFM
>
> > is a minor cost to the full power FM.
> >
> > The HDTV transistion required many full-power FM's to move
>
> > off TV towers. But most of these displacements have
> already
> > worked their way through the system. Most of the futures
> > moves that would bump up against an exisitng LPFM would
> > likely be these moves into metro areas from suburban
> > locations. I would argue the value of protecting existing
>
> > LPFMS over new 10th or 20th full power service in those
> > cases, especially where there are no alternative channels
> > available for the LPFM
> >
> This NPRM 05-210 is a bunch of horsepucky, plain and simple.
> This is First Broadcastings' latest attempt to circumvent
> the whole process, and establishing a swift "move-in"
> process in light of all of the trouble they have had
> recently.
> Just take a look at MB Docket 02-136 (Covington, WA) and
> 02-376 (Sells, AZ). This has to do with using "backfilled"
> vacant allotments to cure and remedy a loss of service in
> areas left by a moved station. And it gets even better,
> thinking that they will lose these cases (because this is
> Commission policy right now....."backfilled vacant
> allotments are NO SUBSTITUE FOR ACTUAL SERVICE"), what did
> they do? Why they purchased an allotment in Condon, Oregon
> (pop 745)and now they've "cured" the problem of leaving no
> service for 1800 people. Yet First Broadcasting is on the
> record in RM-10960 admitting that they will not build out a
> station in a very small town. This is very crafty, I'd say.
> FCC staff, don't fall for this behavior. Thank god the Staff
> saw through this recently in dening the issue of removing
> "non-viable" allotments in this NPRM. So they move into an
> urban area from 133 miles away, backfill with allotments
> that won't be built out, leave 1800 people with absolutely
> no radio service, buy an allotment in po-dunk Oregon (Condon
> is described as a semi-ghost town), and petition the FCC to
> remove allotments (non-viable) that they themselves are
> creating. What a bunch of nonsense. See for yourselves. I
> hope some staff members are looking at this board, because
> we are just not going to take it anymore.
>
>
> Here are the sources: You might need to plug in 02-136 and
> 02-376 under "proceeding" .
http> ://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/websql/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.hts
>
>
> And here's the Condon, Oregon allotment owned by the
> majority owner of......First Broadcasting.
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=164221
> It's 100,000 watts at 288 meters HAAT. Would YOU build a
> 100,000 watt facility in the middle of friggin' NOWHERE?
>
Try this link: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/comsrch_v2.cgi
 
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