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For AM fans only

This week Mr. Fybush is featuring the KB/GR transmitter site on Big Tree Road in Hamburg.

I grew up in the area so this is my all time favorite site. Take a peek inside: www.fybush.com
 
It's an amazing site to this very day, even though I haven't been in the building since early 2000. A trip to the transmitter with Tom Atkins my good friend and then Chief Engineer of CapCities-Price-Keymarket-River City-Sinclair-Entercom (did I forget any?) Broadcasting was always a blast. Scott did a fine tribute, and I'm sure he took lots of pictures that just didn't make the cut. And Tom Atkins could fill a couple of pages with great KB stories as well, especially some of the escapades when WGR and WKBW were still music stations and going at it mano-a-mano.

One classic story is about how Tom dummied-up KB's processing because he knew the guys from WGR where always in the building, checking KB's processing and tweaking WGR's processing to one-up KB. What they didn't know was that Tom had two sets of processors, the ones that were visible to the competition through the glass of the pictures transmitter control rooms (which were locked) and the set of real on air processors that weren't visible to the competition. In those very competitive days, the transmitter site was owned by KB and WGR was a tennant. You can imagine some of the one-upsmanship that went on.

There's a monster power generator in the basement of the building, where there could also be found historic artifacts in the seemingly bomb-proof brick walled vaults. Wanna see old boards, turntables, processors, cable, monitors, cart racks and record cabinets with Don Berns' handwriting, such as "Progressive LP's"? They were in the basement of the transmitter building. I'm sure those items by now have given way to needed house cleaning and thrown in the dumpster, which a few executives of the Buffalo Broadcasters have been known to dive into in order to preserve history. I was given one of the CapCities metal plates ("High Voltage Do Not Enter") that hung on the fences surrounding the towers. It's in my archives.

On the second floor of the transmitter building where the WGR and WWKB transmitters are pictured, there's a massive square hole (now covered by a steel plate) where the two story power transformer for the big old Westinghouse transmitter used to sit. This was the transmitter that former CE Leroy Feidler ("Uncle Fid") fell into while doing (FCC required) routine maintenance. Uncle Fid stunned listeners and employees when he broke into normal programming and called for help from the transmitter. His quick thinking saved his life.

In one of Scott's pictures, a white leather couch is barely visible. I chuckled when I saw it. It used to sit in the office of WGR Sales Manager Dick Aaron (RIP) who was one of the best old school SM's in America. For a brief time he also was GM of WGR just before Taft sold WGR and WGRQ. Dick was a true gentleman and character in his own right. He'd go to Temple on Saturday and help with the collection at Christ The King Church on Sunday. The couch later moved to Larry Andersen's (RIP) office where guys like Frank Benny, Jerry Reo and Stan Roberts would park themselves to talk business, shop and swap stories.

Scott always does a fine job portraying stations and their history, but he didn't mention Transcontinent's ownership of WGR before it was sold to Taft. It was during this period that WGR went "Chicken Rock" in an attempt to take on KB. Tom Shannon was lured from KB and joined WGR for a short time, but Transcontinent management didn't have the stones and wherewithall to take on the Mighty KB and Shannon later left for Detroit.

The KB-WGR transmitter building is a magnificent testimony to Buffalo's broadcasting history. Thanks to the many people I've worked with, I'm lucky to have had the opportunity to scout out the building and transmitter site. I know Mike Sheridan posted this thread as "For AM Fans Only," but Fybush's Transmitter Site of the Week page is a must read for fans of radio overall. Thanks Scott!
 
Wow Jim thanks for the additional insight. Falling into a 50KW transmitter has got to be every engineer's nightmare. Maintainence like that should always be done by two people!

I lived about 2 miles from the transmitter and in the era of the 2 transistor radio KB covered the first half on the dial and GR the second half!

My school bus used to pass the site twice a day. I would always look in wonder even though nothing ever changed. In the Cap Cities days the grounds were always well trimmed with spotlights on the ground which proudly lit up the big transmitter building at night.

Dave Mason told me the story of how WGR beat WKBW on AM stereo. They were both set to go on at the same time but al the last minute the WKBW stereo generator blew. I think I have that right. Competition...you bet! One of the KB engineers told me about the lightning that used to rattle the place!

I got a chance to see the inside just once in the mid '70's. KB had just replaced the old Westinghouse which was still there with a new Harris MW-50.

Jim, what do you know about KB's old Main Steet studios? From what I have seen they didn't look like much. Old RCA board which I believe they used for a long time. I know in the old days there were board ops or Directors as they called them. What year did that stop?
 
The KB Main Street studios back in 1977 were amazing, in that you never saw more creative, well done radio coming out of more of a dungeon.

The old control room and RCA 1949-vintage board was still there in the late 1970s. It had recently been taken out of service as a main air control room and relegated to secondary production duty when they went from an engineered to a combo operation back in 1976. At that time they moved a modern McCurdy console into a podium at the center of what had always been the main air studio, and then built a second podium 10 feet away in the same room with a recent vintage rotary-fader board and bank of cart machines for the newscaster to originate his newscasts at :15 and :45 past the hour. Both the jock and the newscaster stood up to do their thing, each controlled his own mike. Another announce booth was converted into a multitrack stereo production room with another new McCurdy board and a group of Scully reel-to-reel machines crammed into a very small space, with an announce booth next door down the hall. Offices, such as they were, were cramped--IIRC only the GM, PD and news director had separate offices and they all were about the size of walk-in closets. You ate lunch at your desk because there was no break room--and only a single coffee machine in the middle of the hall between the doors to the bathrooms.

The newsroom, tucked into the back of the building across from the main air studio and production room, wasn't much changed--still used manual typewriters, and small consoles with Ampex 602 reel to reel machines and an ITC cart machine at each workstation to conduct phone interviews and prepare actualities for the newscasts.

We gave the rats who lived inside the walls and under the desks names.
 
Bob's account of WKBW radio sums it up nicely, but he got to work with better equipment. :D I was there May '73- Aug '74, hired by Jeff Kaye, and left just before Bob Harper established his legacy. It always intrgued me that Jeff Kaye and his crew always created spectacular radio with equipment that was old (I swear the production room board was signed by Sarnoff) and held together with chewing gum and duct tape because there was never any money in the budget for new equipment. Yet when Jeff departed and a new PD walked into the joint, there blossomed new boards, processors and studio appointments.

Al Wallack and Don Berns, who also post here, worked at KB and I'm sure they could provide an equally if not more interesting account of 1430 Main Street as well. During my brief tenure, jocks ran their own board which controled only their mic and turntables. Engineers-producers (some of the best and most creative in the industry, notably the superb, witty and delightfully vulgar Jim Adler; also Norm Bruckner, Al Laffler and Frank Sai) were in master control and ran all reel tape, carts and phones through the master board from 7:00 a.m. to midnight, Monday thorugh Sunday. The all night guy (Midnight -6 a.m.) ran the master control room board as did Dan Neaverth and Stan Roberts, from 6-7 a.m. At the time, the jocks' board was a big ol' ugly rotary pot McMartin (I think they sold 12 of them,) which fed the engineer's big ol' ugly RCA in Master Control that Bob mentioned (although I was told by Jim Adler it was new in '59. Whoo-hooo!)

1430 Main Street was a long, narrow barn that had been converted to a radio station. Carpeting and paint work wonders. Imagine an inverted capital "L" (spin it 180 degrees). The front door opened into a microscopic lobby, and visitors looked straight down a long, narrow hall which had "offices" off the left and mostly the right side. At the end of that long hall, somebody had a genius idea and put a full mirror on the wall, ceiling to floor, left to right, so when you looked down the hall from the receptionist's desk, the building appeared twice as long as it was... until you realized that the guy down the hall looked... amazingly... like... you... hmmmm. That mirror also served as a security measure because as you walked toward it, away from the front door and receptionist, you could see who might be behind you without having to turn around.

Chewing gum and duct tape, smoke 'n mirrors! Until you turned on your radio... and it was a masterpiece!

There was a second floor that was used primarily for storage. It wasn't much more than a "stand up attic." Amazing stuff could be found up there. Wonder if the subsequent owners of the building ever rid the attic of the "memorabilia."

I drove down Main Street just last week, passing the old KB and Channel 7 buildings. There was a slew of tractor trailers parked in the old KB radio lot, surrounded by 8 foot high chain link fence. In a way, it relected what KB radio has become.
 
A K-Big Thanks to Bob and Jim. You both painted vivid pictures of what it was like at KB. I guess if the studio layout was good and it was comfortable to work on air then it was okay. Hardly what you would think a big time 50KW legondary top 40 station would be! I wonder if that's why I couldn't get a tour of the place???

I also had the good fortune to work at a great station that was cramped and showed it's age. At WFTL in Fort Lauderdale the equipment we had for the time was a bit better than you described. Nice Gates Dualux II board and some of the first ITC triple cart machines an Ampex 602 and AG-440 reels. Production rooms...one was a closet with an ITC cart recorder, an old Gatesway and 2 Ampex AG-440's. The larger production room had a funky Collins board and the same setup. At least eveything worked well! They moved the station to a brand new building with modern equipment and plenty of room. I swear working in the old dump was more fun!
 
I worked at both WKBW 1430 Main and WWKB Franklin Street in, respectively, 1969-70 and 1986 as my last gig before putting WYSL (1030 kHz, Avon-Rochester) on the air in early '87. One of my favorite stories about the K-Big Radio Center on Main: I recall the NABET contract that required union board ops from 7am to Midnight, who were Messrs. Lafler, Adler (you BET he was profane) Saj, Bruckner and occasionally as fill-in - "Uncle Fid" CE Leroy Fidler. At midnight you flipped a key on the board delegating the mike input to a control room mic that was pushed aside by the engineers during announce-op hours. My 1969 shift was overnight early Sunday morning, starting at midnight. Being unfamiliar with the strict rules and regulations of a union "shop," one night as I was preparing to hop behind the RCA "consolette" I decided that night I'd aircheck myself. I had brought a 7-inch reel of tape for the purpose. So: as Norm watched from the operating position, I grabbed a bulk-eraser, buzzed the reel, threaded it up on the Magnecord rack-mounted in the control room and grabbed a couple of patch cords to get audio into it. Bruckner went ballistic. I was stunned; couldn't figure out what he was so upset about. That was when I learned about union jurisdiction - as a mere "announcer," YOU CAN'T TOUCH THE EQUIPMENT UNTIL MIDNIGHT!!! (It was then 11:52pm.) It probably didn't help that I was all of 19 years old. Back in the day, engineers tended to look on announcers actually touching the equipment as disrespectful if not slightly sacreligious. After all, dammit, it was our job to talk and be goofy. THEY were supposed to be entrusted with reading the meters.
 
CORRECTION!! You can tell I don't regularly get back to Buffalo. I meant to say Delaware Avenue, not Franklin Street. Sorry about that.
 
Yep, I was with a group of engineers once...they didn't know I was a jock because I can talk a little tech too. I've always been interested in electronics...They likened jocks to trained apes who could tear up an anvil!
 
Re: For AM fans only/engineer stories

When I worked at WXXI AM there was an engineer who would always say "you know if you didn't touch it, it wouldn't break." I always believed announcers should be about 25% engineers so that when things would break you could at least explain what was what to the engineer or on the discrep report. So Garry Warren (the engineer mentioned above) passed away and I am at the wake. His son walks up to the group I was in and we all introduce ourselves and give our condolences. While intoducing myself he looks at me and says "You're Jim McGrath. Dad liked you. You didn't break sh**! I was always proud of that high compliment from Garry.
 
Hate to be a repeat offender here, but since Barrister Savage corrected himself regarding Franklin Street-Delaware Avenue (no problem Bob, we knew what you wuz thinkin', besides, some of us say Rt. 5-20 rather than Avon-Lima Road) so I thought I'd do the same:
...Tom Atkins my good friend and then Chief Engineer of CapCities-Price-Keymarket-River City-Sinclair-Entercom (did I forget any?)
Duh! Apparently I did. He's presently Vice President of Engineering, Backyard Broadcasting.
 
Bob1370 & JimP, remember the leaky roof at 1430 Main? When the snow pack melted (and, being in Buffalo, the snow on KB's roof was considerable) and/or there was heavy rain the production studio ceiling in particular leaked like screens. I remember buckets from the mop basins lined up on top of the RCA BC-6B consolette to catch the rainwater. Neaverth used to tell a hilarious story about doing a live appearance somewhere up in Ontario during KB's heyday in the 60s. During the gig a sheepish young Canadian broadcaster came up and shyly asked if Danny, king of the giant KB Radio, would maybe like to stop by to see his local station before he went home? Of course, the young DJ said, it can't be anything great like KB must be, but we're proud of it. Danny obliged and encountered a large, modern, busy facility twice the size of the 1430 Main dump packed with all the latest gear being used by well-scrubbed enthusiastic young radio folks. Neaverth was polite and thanked the lad for the tour. The young Canadian pressed on: hey, I'm going to see relatives in Western New York next week - maybe, now that we're buds, I could stop and see WKBW! Dan put him off, embarassed to have him actually see cramped, leaky, antiquated 1430 Main populated as it was with dour newsmen and cranky engineers. And Jefferson Kaye.
 
Bob....was Jefferson Kaye dour or cranky or both? I saw a memo he wrote to the staff...ouch!

I remember KB used to have the newsmen voice spots. The stations I have worked for would never do that.

MS
 
Re: For AM fans only/engineer stories

JimMcGrath said:
When I worked at WXXI AM there was an engineer who would always say "you know if you didn't touch it, it wouldn't break." I always believed announcers should be about 25% engineers so that when things would break you could at least explain what was what to the engineer or on the discrep report. So Garry Warren (the engineer mentioned above) passed away and I am at the wake. His son walks up to the group I was in and we all introduce ourselves and give our condolences. While intoducing myself he looks at me and says "You're Jim McGrath. Dad liked you. You didn't break sh**! I was always proud of that high compliment from Garry.

Jim,
Remember another one of Garry's quotes? "If it doesn't work, then use another machine." ;D

I used to get Garry's goat by saying that he looked like the German leader Bismark with that handle-bar mustache of his, but he knew I was kidding.

Unlike other posters, I never worked in a union shop so I read these stories with great interest and awe.

Speaking of our former stomping ground, I'm sure you've heard the "Wyatt" story already haven't you? Another talented individual tossed aside while those who couldn't tie their shoes without written instructions remain.
 
Well, this thread has turned into an interesting walk down memory lane, especially for the two guys who worked at the KB. I vaguely remember both, but clearly they were bit players (no slight intended), not stars like Neaverth, Roberts, Armstrong, Klestine, Beach, Berns, Shane, Bob McCray, Jim Scott and Don Wade.

Listeners didn't care what condition the equipment was in or the appearance of the studios and offices. The only thing that mattered to listeners was what they heard when they punched the button to 1520. In most cases, they liked what they heard, the music and personalities. Apparently so did much of the east coast: "Seventeen states and two countries."

In its prime, some of the best radio in America originated in Buffalo, riding the airwaves on 1520 with 50 thousand Watts. Ask the question, "Does some of the best radio in America today originate in Buffalo? And who, outside of Western New York, would recognize it, since no other AM or FM station has the potential to cover such an expanse as did KB?"

Today, WWKB is a pathetic dumping ground. Witness the likes of Leslie Marshall. How times have changed. Shame!

-9-
 
-9- it's not just Buffalo, allot of good radio has vanished all over the country. Outside of a few morning drive shows there isn't much going on. It seems like when the big shift to FM came along nobody wanted to do a 24 hour personality FM.

Part of the fun of DXing distant AM stations was to get a feeling for the city as reflected by the radio stations that served those cities like WKBW, WLS, CKLW, WABC etc.

These days consultants run it all, they do research and it comes back sounding the same, not really bad but not great either just unexciting.
 
El Mike-o asks: was Jeff Kaye dour, or cranky, or both? (Sigh.) Well, the best way to answer that question is by relating a true story. And this thread reminds me of a project I keep putting off: I've got to complete a RADIO MUSEUM page on the WYSL site where I can post actual memos and other items because otherwise people might think we were making stuff up. Some tales strain credulity. Like this one.

Like most folks starting out in WNY radio in the late 60s, I grew up listening - of course - to 50kw WKBW. I started in radio at age 17, and fast-forwarding, had some good fortune and wound up being hired at WKBW for a weekend shift every Sunday morning, starting in November 1969. The story of my "hiring" by Jefferson Kaye will be fodder for another entry because it's a tale in and of itself - but for now I'll just tell the story of Jeff's idea of managing talent, a new young jock, on his first night on the air.

You can imagine my state of mind, driving through blinding snow the three hours from Ithaca College to Buffalo for my first show. I arrived at 1430 Main about an hour before my shift to get final instructions, formatics, etc. (I was used to intensive coaching at WIBG from Paul Drew, where I had worked that summer.) As it turned out my formatic briefing consisted of a dittographed music category sheet left in my mailbox with a scrawled note from Jeff Kaye's secretary - play a Top 10, then an oldie, then a 11-20 chart song, etc. No clock. No liners. No structure. Just hop in the 50,000-watt saddle and ride.

Well, okay! There I was, minutes before air. I walked into the tiny, cluttered jock lounge-bullpen, and gazed at the array of mailboxes and their typed labels: DANNY NEAVERTH. STAN ROBERTS. FRED KLESTINE.
TIM KELLY. PAT REILLY. And: BOB SAVAGE! There was MY name, at age 19, alongside the stars I had admired from 75 miles away for half my young life! I felt like I had arrived - until I pulled a ditto'ed memo out of my mailbox. I've saved it in the archives these 38 years and quote from it here:

"TO: ALL AIR STAFF NOVEMBER 7, 1969
FROM: JEFF KAYE

GENTLEMEN:

We will have some schedule changes. This weekend, Bob Savage (his real name) will be joining the staff. Bob is a student at Ithaca College and has worked summer replacement at Philadelphia's WIBG. If you see him in the halls, don't bother speaking to him or developing any close ties....he may not last.

He will be in tonight to observe the Reilly show. Pat will make him uncomfortable and stun him with his prowess on the air."

I stared at the memo, re-reading it several times, finally managing a nervous chuckle. Since by 11:45pm no "trainer" or management had arrived, I walked numbly into the control room, where I showed the memo to the implacable Norm Bruckner perched behind the board. He scanned the memo and asked, "so?"

I said, "this is a joke, right? Tell me Jeff Kaye is kidding with this memo."

Norm let go of a record he was slip-cueing. "Naw, he means it. If Jeff writes it in a memo, he means it. That's the kind of bastard he is."

Steve Mitchell arrived at about 11:57pm, complaining about having to come in and train me. He was gone by 12:30. And that was Jefferson Kaye's idea of training and motivating a new young jock he put on his 50,000 watt radio station for his first shift.
 
Wow Bob, that's so bizarre. I would have turned to Jello.

You mentioned Paul Drew and that reminded me of when I met him. I was a lowly "babysitter" of the WAXY 106 automation on the RKO Oldies station in Fort Lauderdale. It was my first job in radio and because I could read well they let me do some news, public service shows and "The Miami Dolphin Report". I had read all the stories about Drew and how he used to listen to his stations constantly. When I met him he couldn't have been nicer. Someone told him that I would be doing the "Dolphin Report" (funny when I tell you I know almost nothing about sports). He said to me, "I'll be listening". I answered him with, "I hope your radio breaks!" He smiled and said, "Aw don't say that..." The man had quite a reputation.
 
OK -9-, Mike, Phil... heh, heh... ;) At the risk of taking up too much of this thread. My apologies for another entry. This is going to be a "screed," as Al Wallack might say.

Jeff Kaye. My experience was totally different from that of Bob Savage. I was a punk 23 year old-know-it-all, working weekends and overnights at WYSL and admittedly not as good as I could have been, but better than some. A friend of mine, from Buffalo State, Craig Kozinski (no relation to Bob Kocinski) was a promotions assistant at KB. They lovingly called these guys "shleppers." He put my name in play and gets credit and my thanks for his act of generosity.

Aside. It helps to understand that KB at the time had a lot of Yiddish and Borsht Belt influence, most of it coming from two guys Jeff (Krimski) Kaye and Norm Schrutt. OK, three guys. Add Don Berns' name to the list. Jeff and Norm were cut from opposite ends of the same ego-driven cloth. So words like "shlepper," "shmuck," "putz," "shtick," and "shmooz" were part of the every day station vernacular. You came to understand the words and how to use them. Example, Jeff brusquely tells me, "The sponsor billboard goes before the temperature and the weather outro. Get it right. Don't be a putz."

So my friend Craig, without me knowing it, tells Jeff about me and Jeff's secretary Francine "Straps" Keating (one of the nicest women on the face of the earth) calls me at home and says, "Jeff Kaye wants to talk to you, can you bring him an aircheck?" I think it's a joke. Somebody like the notorious Randy Michaels at WGRQ is busting my balls. I say, "Thanks, I'll get it right down to you," dismiss the call totally and do nothing.

Two days go by. I get another call. It's Francine again. "We didn't get your tape, did you forget?" At this point I tell her I thought somebody was punkin' me and didn't want to look like a total fool dropping of a tape at the Mighty KB, only to have a receptionist look at me with a blank stare and toss it in the circular file.

So I tell Francine I'll drop the tape off immediately. I'm 23. Living in Cheekto-Vegas. I'm wearing cut off shorts, have long brown hair. (Hah! These days thinning and very gray.) I'm wearing a wife-beater, sporting a great tan (these days, I wear SPF 50) and wearing beach flip-flops. I get in my red VW bug and drive to 1430 Main Street to drop-off a scoped but un-edited cassette skimmer tape. I'm thinking it would be nice, but I have no chance at a gig at KB. I'm just dropping off a tape and resume, expecting to receive a rejection letter on Classic KB stationary a few days later.

I park my car in the lot, walk in to 1430 Main with my tape and resume and tell the receptionist, "I'm dropping off a tape for Jeff Kaye, could you please just have him send it back with the rejection letter. Thank you." It took no more than 30 seconds. I turned and walked out to my car. Backing out, I look right and there's Francine Keating running through the lot, waving her arms. "Don't leave, Jeff wants to speak to you right now."

I'm dressed more for an afternoon at Hard Rock Quarry, than an interview with "the legend." Muttering some obsceneties to myself, hoping I don't soil myself and praying at the same time, I follow Francine to Jeff's office. I look like a total shlub. My aircheck is playing as I walk in to Jeff's office. It's OK, but certainly not what it should be. If you're a jock and a PD is listening to your aircheck in your presence, you know every minute flaw.

Jeff looks at me with one of his classic "WTF" looks. Stops the tape, takes it out of the machine and tosses it at me. Tosses it!

"I heard you wanted this back after I was done listening to it."

I'm trying hard not to have my voice squeak out, "Yes, thank you."

"Siddown." Pauses. Always the dramatist. "You want something to drink? You look like you're on your way to the beach."

"Uh, no thank you."

"I got beer in here."

"I'll have a Seven Up."

"Here's a Coke, take it or leave it."

"Thank you."

"You always dress like this for an interview?"

"Uh, no, I thought I was only dropping off a tape. Sorry."

I notice there's a freakin' HANG MAN'S NOOSE hanging above his desk! The office is tiny. Closet sized. I don't ask about the noose. Like I said, there was a touch of drama in the man. Who else would have the nuts to re-write and produce the radio classic, "War Of the Worlds" and pull it off?

"Jeesus Christ," he says condescendingly.

Ever heard the word "shrinkage?" That's what I was feeling. Long before Seinfeld thought he coined the word, I was experiencing it. I'm sitting across from "the man." It occurs to me that his chair is way higher than the one I'm sitting in. I'm kinda looking up at him. Months later, I was told the chairs "sized" specifically for interviews and conversations like this. Myth or reality? Who knows.

"Listen, we have a weekend overnight opening now and maybe a summer fill-in opening in a few weeks. You interested?"

"Yeah... uh, YES!"

"Good. You're hired. You're tape's not bad, but fer Chrisake, loosen up and SAY something when you're on the radio. Have fun. And when you're here, ACT like you wanna be here and as if you deserve to be here. Because you wouldn't be here if you didn't deserve to be. This is KB. Got it?"

"Got it."

I could be wrong, but I think I just got hired at KB.

"Can I ask how much the job pays?"

Jeff laughs, leans back in his chair and says, "It pays a helluva lot more than you're makin' now at that s**thole down the street."

Then he gives me the particulars on pay and union benefits and tells me to come in the next night to train with Bob MacCrae on the all nite show.

The music rotation might have been better defined by 1973, Bob. There was a long 8.5 x 14 (legal size) music rotation sheet which contained categories and stopset positions with jngle positions marked. And there was a one-sheet format guide. One sheet. One.

Weird, huh?

To me, Jeff was always a legend. But he was human. He expected a lot from all of his staff. He could chew your ass out (always in private) then tell you that you did a terrific bit last Tuesday at 4:13 a.m. He was also known to call the hotline at any hour of the night (say 3 a.m.) just to ask, very clamly, "How's everything going? What was that third story in the 3 o'clock newscast?"

That would be the story I messed up. It was his way of saying, "You screwed up, I heard it. It may be the all night show, but it's impoartant. Get it right. Don't be a putz."

Another thing, at least in my experience, he'd criticize in private and praise in public.

Was Jeff Kaye Mother Theresa? Hell no. But he wasn't Rasputin either. The words of Isaac Hayes some to mind, "He's a complicated man and no one understands him but his woman... They say that cat Jeff Kaye is a baadddd mother*****. Shut your mouth! But I'm talkin' about Jeff. We can diggit."

To this day, I hold him in high esteem. As I said, my experience is an entirely different take from Bob's experience. Who knows why, but that's the way it worked for me. I think he expected a lot from himself and the people he hired and he believed that by hiring great people (Beach, Berns, Jack Sheridan, the real Don Wade, Armstrong and other name players) he made himself more successful.

And -9-, you're right, I was just a "bit player." But at least I was a player. No slight intended.

Bob, the roof of 1430 Main had been fixed by 1973. They put more tar on it than the La Brea Tar Pits. But the damn electrical circuits in the control room had a way of blowing fuses at the weirdest times. Like when some cafeine feuled overnight guy (not me) plugged in his Mr. Coffee pot and the control room went dead silent.

Amazing.

Sorry for the screed. I sure wish Wallack and Berns would contribute to this thread.
 
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