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For Fun--Predict the cancellation date of the final network soap opera

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Tim from Springfield IL

The "End Date for All My Children" thread and the prospect of the new talk and game shows (e.g. "The Talk," "Let's Make a Deal") bringing a better bottom line for the networks than the soaps got me thinking.

Anyone care to predict the cancellation date of the final soap opera to air on network TV? (As I think the talkers like Katie Couric's new show and perhaps new games are the wave of the future, and if the new shows fail I wouldn't be surprised to see the time slots be given to the affiliates who will dump more trashy court and talk shows, or even infomercials in those slots).

My guess: The last soap on network TV will be "Bold and the Beautiful" and I predict it may be off the CBS daytime lineup by the end of 2017 after 30 years--with the time given to the affiliates (for the likes of an hour-long noon news, particularly in the Central Time Zone, etc.).

Thoughts and guesses?
 
Not to sound like a party pooper but it's not much fun since neither The Bold & The Beautiful or The Young & The Restless are showing any signs of going away anytime soon.....

Just being realistic.....

Cheers :D
 
Perhaps some classroom programming would cost lesser. :)
 
As the "daytime dramas" gradually go off the air, the next soaps to mark milestones are "The Young & The Restless" on CBS and "General Hospital"(if ABC were to keep it on the schedule), Y & R turns 40 in 2013 and GH will be 50, next is "Days Of Our Lives" on NBC which hits 50 in late 2015(i have a feeling this show will be gone sooner) and then "The Bold & The Beautiful"
will be 30 in 2017, as long as one or two are money makers, they won't be cancelled just yet, but if ABC's talk shows don't go anywhere with viewers(and i expect this will happen), the chances that the time slots will be returned to affiliates will go up, and i agree we don't need anymore talk and court shows, it would be great if game shows made a comeback.
 
Days of our lives on nbc has always been a wild card. Almost cannceled in 1999, said some network folks at the time. Then NBC said that Days might end in late 2008. Then they got a 1 renew from the network do to the fact that the rateings had been up with the option of 3 years afterwords if met benchmarks set by nbc. They did get the three year in 2010 and a so called HD upgrade. (It looks like up converted sd, a lot of grain and sort of blurry. Now with new writters and returning fan faves some are hopeing the show will pick again. Unlikley they might just be bringing old faves back to bow out the show, even though they still have time.

General Hospital is as good as dead, the only hope is if one of the new shows fail GH might be safe unitl 2013-14. It looks as if abc might no longer use the 3pm hour for network shows.

No clue on what cbs will do, The young and the restless and bold and beautiful are also shown overseas.
 
Yep, no more "looking like"--in roughly a year, ABC will not program the 3 pm hour.
 
tothedj said:
As the "daytime dramas" gradually go off the air, the next soaps to mark milestones are "The Young & The Restless" on CBS and "General Hospital"(if ABC were to keep it on the schedule), Y & R turns 40 in 2013 and GH will be 50, next is "Days Of Our Lives" on NBC which hits 50 in late 2015(i have a feeling this show will be gone sooner) and then "The Bold & The Beautiful"
will be 30 in 2017, as long as one or two are money makers, they won't be cancelled just yet, but if ABC's talk shows don't go anywhere with viewers(and i expect this will happen), the chances that the time slots will be returned to affiliates will go up, and i agree we don't need anymore talk and court shows, it would be great if game shows made a comeback.
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Does anyone know--will ABC's new talk shows be programmed in the old AMC and OLTL time slots? I wonder, particularly in the Central Time Zone, if there will be many ABC affiliates who air midday news that will try to move their news to noon. Many ABC stations who have midday news have aired it at either 11AM or 11:30--local ABC affiliate WICS-20 here in Springfield, IL has their news at 11AM (but it used to air at Noon back when the station was an NBC affiliate until our "Big Switch" Labor Day 2005).
 
I just hope that when (not if) more soaps are cancelled that they don't turn the time over to local stations. I'd rather see more game and talk shows from the networks (I don't care about the View, etc., but it's better than Springer, Maury, etc.) than for local stations to put on more of the garbage that most local daytime TV is now.
 
The blame for that lies with viewers. They stop tuning in to such shows, the shows go away, regardless of source.
 
How about putting in more "Infomercials"? You can never get enough of those! :mad:
 
Over here, I suspect the flies and locusts will still be watching 'Coronation Street', 'Emmerdale' and 'Eastenders' (and listening to 'The Archers' ) at the end of time.
 
BMR, if I'm up on my British schedules the soaps you mentioned
all air in the evening, around what we would call early primetime,
when there's a larger potential audience. We do have primetime
shows with continuing storylines (e.g., "Desperate Housewives"),
and it's those that seem to be giving viewers who like continuing
stories their fix.

IMHO, the scheduling practices that carried over from radio to
television are becoming increasingly obsolete: the daytime audience
isn't there for the soaps as it was in the '30s, '40s, '50s, and '60s;
the network news is on too early (how many people in Chicago or
Dallas do you think are home by 5:30 CT) and I still think the CBC
model of "The National"/"The Journal" from 10-11 is the way to go.
(Problem: after the Jay Leno fiasco, I don't see any network carrying
the same thing at 10 PM every night.), Lifestyles are different, and if
you wonder why soaps and network news (not including cable news
networks) are an endangered species, just look at the lifestyles in this country.

Personally, if I owned a network I'd like to try soaps in the early evening
(say 6 or 6:30 to 8) and a national newscast at 10.

Now, back on topic: I don't think it matters one iota if "The Chew" airs
on a day-behind at 11 AM (CT) in Dallas, San Antonio, and a few other
markets; "The View" might actually prove to be a good lead-in. I doubt
if many people will feel they've missed something, unlike "All My Children,"
where they have to wait an extra day (unless they have SoapNet) to see
something (sometimes key) take place. And I can't think of any market
that won't see "The Revolution" at 2 (ET)/1 (all other time zones). So
I don't see any major shakeup in ABC affiliate lineups.

I agree with homerjay that "GH" is as good as dead; if WABC, WPVI, and
WTVD want Katie at 3 (and I think they will), you've lost two of the top
four markets and one that is growing; now assume KABC, WLS, KGO, and KTRK
want her at 2 (throw in KFSN, too), again you're talking some of the largest
markets, enough audience taken away from "GH" to make it almost impossible
for advertisers to reach.

I don't agree that "The Bold And The Beautiful" will be the last remaining soap;
nothing is stopping CBS affiliates from airing an hour of news at noon and running
"Y&R" at a later time (as we've said ad nauseum, WRAL, WLKY, and WKYT do quite
well running "Y&R" out of pattern). With a lead of nearly 1.5 points over "B&B," and
nothing else even close to "Y&R"'s ratings, I think it's good for the indefinite future.

Finally, I think that the best change in daytime has been in those markets where
the CBS affiliate runs "Let's Make A Deal" and "The Price Is Right" in the mornings.
Two similar shows, good flow, and "Price" is one reason why CBS affiliates do so
well at noon. As I understand it, "Deal" actually does better on its morning stations.
 
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