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For now I am giving up on HDFM

I just cant take the drops all the time on HDFM when I am dxn it to San antonio, it just isnt working out like I wanted to. Its a great idea, but I just dont think it will work out with the coverage that it has on it. What happens to the people in the fringe areas? I can get San antonio great with my antenna up 20 feet on analog. My place in Lavaca co. I can get Houston analog great with just a dipole antenna! I hope they can improve it within time, but untill then I'll just be listening to analog.
 
hdfm for me is the lack of music diversity, like 3 different types of music that is being wiped out by radio stations. well i don't really mention them too much on this site, this time i will : classic country, oldies and classic rock with some classics from the 50's-90's. i do have a acriam hdfm set i only used maybe 2 or 3 times.
 
captex said:
hdfm for me is the lack of music diversity, like 3 different types of music that is being wiped out by radio stations. well i don't really mention them too much on this site, this time i will : classic country, oldies and classic rock with some classics from the 50's-90's. i do have a acriam hdfm set i only used maybe 2 or 3 times.

HD FM is not going to be much help in cars for the same reason you get FM flutters and dropouts in cars.
There's not enough data redundancy to work dx while in motion.
That said, it will work pretty darn well for stationary receivers.

You describe exactly the music I am throwing all together on my part 15 at home;
Airchecks at:
http://thomasjwells.podomatic.com/

Given that the music described is "the music of your life" for baby boomers (I'm 46) and the youth now
are not listening to radio in the way we did, why does radio continue to give less and less service to those
who have traditionally been their best listeners?
 
yes it is a good music selection you have, im 45 years old. i remember listening to the radio in the car, out at the lake and of course at home. nowadays alot of cd's, internet radio live 365 and very little of local radio.
thanks thomas wells from captex
 
I wish HDFM was just as easy as HDTV I can get Austin/San antonio HDTV with just a pair of Rabbit ears! I dont think HDFM will make it as long as the power is like it is.
 
captex said:
jras, has the surgery been postponed and how are you doing?

Its been postponed till the end of February I'll keep everyone uptodate, so far i'm doing great, thanks for asking...
 
Actually, for FM HD on car, I actually receive a pretty darn solid signal from Houston's Missoury city signals around the 60 dbu contour. After coming out of that area, the HD just drops in and out, especially in hilly terrain.

The problem for HD will be on small stick/low power stations like KPTY. This station's HD is pretty bad around the suburbs of Houston. I don't even think it reaches their 60 dbu contour.
 
-juan- said:
The problem for HD will be on small stick/low power stations like KPTY. This station's HD is pretty bad around the suburbs of Houston. I don't even think it reaches their 60 dbu contour.
Their analog 60 dBu contour doesn't reach the suburbs for the most part. KPTY is a 2700W station. It's centrally located, but has very little horsepower.
 
I havnt tried a car radio yet, but I have tried it with my 6 ellement antenna, and it doesnt really do a good job. I just hope my dipole antenna will do the trick with KLTO on the air once again so I can still get KBXX's analog signal. like it did before they came on the air.
 
If you are having dropouts with a 6 element antenna, there's something else going on.
Either terrain is in the way, or you're getting multipath from airplanes enough for the flutter to drop your HD decoding.

Do you hear varying-rate flutter sometimes in your analog reception?
 
I get some pops and clicks in the analog sometimes, Some frequencies are better than others, 98.5 KBBT is pretty bad, that could be because I am close to the 98.5 up in Austin, I cant think of their calls right now. But as far as the signal goes for analog, no flutters most of the time. I do have 3 cell towers very close by would that be anything? I have RG6 50ft cable running from the antenna the antenna is about 23 feet up my TV I dont use it any more its about 27 feet up, its just being used for the main HDTV in the other room. I also noticed with my laptop outside there are a lot of wireless frequencies going around does that have any effect? I also have a wireless router, but its in the other room away from my system.
 
I wouldn't think any of the cell towers or wireless router stuff should make any difference because the wavelength is so far removed from
FM broadcast. The pops and clicks are noteworthy. When an FM signal gets low enough, it is subject to the same sort of impulse noise we
associate with AM. In the case of analog FM, clicks will be audible. In the case of digital, you're going back to analog as soon as enough clicks have outrun the error correction. There's only so much data redundancy.

If you are using a pre-amp for the FM, or combining the FM and TV on a single coax, try one antenna only, and try it without a pre-amp.
Any poor connection at the antenna or coax will cause dopouts, too. My Winegard FM antenna has a clip-on balun board where two clips bite into conductors, and this is a potential spot for noise/signal loss.
 
I wonder, too, if jras is having problems with strong analog signals that are first-adjacent to the distant signals he's trying to hear? 96.5 might be clear for analog from Houston, for instance, but if there's something else analog on 96.3 or 96.7, it would wipe the HD sidebands coming from Houston, even with a pretty good antenna.
 
I am using the FM antenna alone, nothing else, same thing with the TV antenna it is only used for TV. The things I dont get is most of the time, I can hear analog clean. Every so often the pops and clicks will come in, mostly durring sunny days and windy days is when it most often starts. I dont have any pre amps or anything hooked up to my FM antenna, I did try one but it didnt seem to help I'm stumped on this one.
 
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