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For those that can do better...

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CMHDave

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Those of you that have ever complained about the CC websites, here's your chance to prove you can do better... the "Internet Content Manager" position is open at CC Columbus.

http://www.610wtvn.com/eeo/
 
> Those of you that have ever complained about the CC
> websites, here's your chance to prove you can do better...
> the "Internet Content Manager" position is open at CC
> Columbus.
>
> http://www.610wtvn.com/eeo/
>
You'd have to be right out of high school to work for the chicken feed they would pay.<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
 
> Those of you that have ever complained about the CC
> websites, here's your chance to prove you can do better...
> the "Internet Content Manager" position is open at CC
> Columbus.
>
> http://www.610wtvn.com/eeo/
>
So where's Russ Egan?

I thought that managing the CC websites was his position, along with being interim PD and doing weeknights at 105.7 plus weekends on lite.

His recent pic is gone from 93.3's site. He had some great music trivia answers and artist links on his personal pages. Anybody know what went down?
 
> You'd have to be right out of high school to work for the
> chicken feed they would pay.
>

Chicken feed. Hmmm, a rather Freudian revelation of the accuser's own perceived value, perhaps?
Or, a clever chicken reference from someone who is too afraid to even ask the question, but you already know it is way below what you might be worth?

Do you have ANY first-hand experience? Why do you think that's what "they would pay"?
Do you know who "they" are? What is/are the person(s) name(s)?
Do you know what "they" DO pay in comparable positions?
Have you been to "their" offices to discuss a position?
Were you ever offered a position? If so, why did you refuse the offer?

Curiosity is high.
 
>
> Do you have ANY first-hand experience? Why do you think
> that's what "they would pay"?
> Do you know who "they" are? What is/are the person(s)
> name(s)?
> Do you know what "they" DO pay in comparable positions?
> Have you been to "their" offices to discuss a position?
> Were you ever offered a position? If so, why did you refuse
> the offer?
>
> Curiosity is high.
>

It's Clear Channel. I'm surprised you have a curiosity.<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
 
> >
> > Curiosity is high.
> >
>
> It's Clear Channel. I'm surprised you have a curiosity.
>

Deflect. Deflect. Deflect.
The questions still remain unanswered. Please offer some insight of substance beyond a simple attempt to deflect attention away from your own lack of first-hand experience.

I was once employed by "them." Yes, those specific "they" whom you obviously do not know, yet smear with such juvenile ease. I received reasonable pay for my experience and abilities and was treated fairly. "They" are a good group of people. Some are still friends of mine.
What was your experience? Are your cheap, dismissive assumptions based on anything factual?
 
>
> I was once employed by "them." Yes, those specific "they"
> whom you obviously do not know, yet smear with such juvenile
> ease. I received reasonable pay for my experience and
> abilities and was treated fairly. "They" are a good group of
> people. Some are still friends of mine.
> What was your experience? Are your cheap, dismissive
> assumptions based on anything factual?
>

You must be one of the lucky ones. That, or your time spent there has made you blind to their Wal-mart approach to radio. I've known and still know people in radio and at Clear Channel. Unless they are liars, my comment is valid.<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
 
As a matter of fact, Chris has his own websites that I frequent every now and then and I would bet that Cheap Channel probably couldn't afford his experience. With that said, I'm sure the last thing he would ever want to do is work for the company we all hate more than you can imagine. I don't mean to speak for Chris, I just happen to be a fan of what he has done with his websites and his streaming of rock that nobody here in this market can touch.

<P ID="signature">______________
Incognito!

You don't know me.</P>
 
> As a matter of fact, Chris has his own websites that I
> frequent every now and then and I would bet that Cheap
> Channel probably couldn't afford his experience. With that
> said, I'm sure the last thing he would ever want to do is
> work for the company we all hate more than you can imagine.
> I don't mean to speak for Chris, I just happen to be a fan
> of what he has done with his websites and his streaming of
> rock that nobody here in this market can touch.
>


I get so tired of Clear Channel bashing. It just goes to show you that you dont know the company nor the employees.

Why do you hate Claer Channel so much? I would love to hear your reasoning.
 
>
> Why do you hate Claer Channel so much? I would love to hear
> your reasoning.
>

They don't serve the public. Instead of bringing something original and local to the community, they copy another established station, or bring in a clone from another market. We've seen it now with Lite and The Brew. Don't give me the "It's a business" crap either. You can still make plenty of money while taking risks once in a while.<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
 
> >
>
> They don't serve the public. Instead of bringing something
> original and local to the community, they copy another
> established station, or bring in a clone from another
> market. We've seen it now with Lite and The Brew. Don't give
> me the "It's a business" crap either. You can still make
> plenty of money while taking risks once in a while.
>


Hold on, you're all over the cliche map. I want to respond to these one at a time:

"They don't serve the public"...
I assume you are using that term to mean something different than the FCC version based on your follow-up charge. Although, it seems the public votes with their ears as to what they enjoy and the aggregate gets to decide what serves the largest tastes. Your cliche is an old Elitist argument that popular-does-not-equal-good. Ask Dan Rather how that philosophy is working for CBS News.

"...they copy another established station, or bring in a clone..."
Imitation has been happening since the first stone wheel was carved. It is everywhere, like automobile design, where the most successful are analyzed for their traits that make them successful and then copied, borrowed, adapted, used, stolen, etc.
Using your logic, there should only be one single "Top 40" station and it would be run by a disciple of Rick Sklar. No one else would be allowed to "copy" his success and apply it elsewhere and Lee Abrahms would still be in Detroit running the only AOR station, as well. Is that really what you intend to occur?

"We've seen it now with Lite and The Brew."
Well, The Brew may be a similar playlist to a wildly successful station in Milwaukee, but I am not sure Lite is modeled on anything that could yet be defined as success in Philly.
But, so what if it is? Why should a company be forced to utilize their resources if they think they have found a unique position in one market that may exist in others? This allegation seems to contradict your original charge of not serving the public by offering choices. Can you clarify this discrepency, please?

And, finally: "Don't give me the "It's a business" crap either. You can still make plenty of money while taking risks once in a while."
Sure, but stock holders are not interested in large amounts of risk. They only want high amounts of return. It is far more likley to get bazillions of dollars invested in McDonald's than in Chris' because McDonald's has the track record. Poor old Chris only has an untested idea.
Now, Chris may be the higher return, if his idea hits, but we all have heard about how many new business ideas fail within the first year (is it 85%-90%?). It would be difficult to find "plenty of money" in that fail-rate.

Emotion is a wonderful thing in broadcasting. Wall Street only wants the non-emotional spreadsheet. There in lies the conflict.

The conflict is not with "they." I know the faces and names of many of "them" and many are good people trying to do the things you are asking for, too. "They" live in your neighborhood. "They" send their kids to schools right along with your kids. "They" are forced to work harder each day to pay the bills, just like you.

The problem is with "you" who demands to hear only "your" favorites everytime "you" tune into a radio station. Public tastes are fickle and the public's demand for immediate satisfaction is excruciating.

Public tastes may suck, but don't blame the deliverer.
 
> I assume you are using that term to mean something different
> than the FCC version based on your follow-up charge.
> Although, it seems the public votes with their ears as to
> what they enjoy and the aggregate gets to decide what serves
> the largest tastes. Your cliche is an old Elitist argument
> that popular-does-not-equal-good. Ask Dan Rather how that
> philosophy is working for CBS News.
>

Example:
Jacor brought Channel Z to the market. Channel Z did very well for a new format on a weak signal. It filled a format hole, created a buzz, and people listened. Clear Channel changed it to the Fox. How many tweaks did that station get until they finally gave up for "The Brew"? Why didn't their popular format that worked in other cities not work here? An established classic rock station already filled the need and they alienated every Channel Z listener that knew the frequency even existed.

> "...they copy another established station, or bring in a
> clone..."
> Imitation has been happening since the first stone wheel was
> carved. It is everywhere, like automobile design, where the
> most successful are analyzed for their traits that make them
> successful and then copied, borrowed, adapted, used, stolen,
> etc.
> Using your logic, there should only be one single "Top 40"
> station and it would be run by a disciple of Rick Sklar. No
> one else would be allowed to "copy" his success and apply it
> elsewhere and Lee Abrahms would still be in Detroit
running
> the only AOR station, as well. Is that really what you
> intend to occur?
>

This market is already low on strong signals. Bringing in an attack for Sunny 95 and Saga in general seems like a waste. Maybe they'll prove many of us wrong, but I don't see it happening. Why not fill another hole?

> Well, The Brew may be a similar playlist to a wildly
> successful station in Milwaukee, but I am not sure Lite is
> modeled on anything that could yet be defined as success in
> Philly.
> But, so what if it is? Why should a company be forced to
> utilize their resources if they think they have found a
> unique position in one market that may exist in others? This
> allegation seems to contradict your original charge of not
> serving the public by offering choices. Can you clarify this
> discrepency, please?
>

That "wildly successful" station may already be wearing out. You can only play 500 big hits from the 80s 24/7 for so long before sheeple will figure it out and move on. QFM96 is a good example of how a large playlist can survive quite well.

> Sure, but stock holders are not interested in large amounts
> of risk. They only want high amounts of return. It is far
> more likley to get bazillions of dollars invested in
> McDonald's than in Chris' because McDonald's has the track
> record. Poor old Chris only has an untested idea.
> Now, Chris may be the higher return, if his idea hits, but
> we all have heard about how many new business ideas fail
> within the first year (is it 85%-90%?). It would be
> difficult to find "plenty of money" in that fail-rate.
>

This is exactly why radio is so watered down today. Play the "safe" songs that "research" says the general public wants. My question is who that public is? Neither myself, or anyone I know, have received a diary to submit about listening habits. Many even question the validity of such "ratings".

> Emotion is a wonderful thing in broadcasting. Wall Street
> only wants the non-emotional spreadsheet. There in lies the
> conflict.
>
> The problem is with "you" who demands to hear only "your"
> favorites everytime "you" tune into a radio station. Public
> tastes are fickle and the public's demand for immediate
> satisfaction is excruciating.
>
> Public tastes may suck, but don't blame the deliverer.
>

Incorrect. There are always songs in any given genre that you tolerate on the radio. I don't think anyone with common sense expects a radio station that caters 100% to them. It's impossible.

For the longest time I thought I was the only one that didn't enjoy radio after the early 90s. Most of the people I know have the same feeling. When was the last time you heard anyone say "wow, that's a great station"? It has become so over-researched and tightened, it's no wonder so many "Jacks" and "Teds" are popping up.

I may not be an expert in the field, but I must have some idea as to what the public wants to hear. The days of FM are numbered. Once people have access to other free options via the internet in their cars, or anywhere they want, corporate-run radio will finally see its shortcomings.<P ID="signature">______________
Chris
202.FM</P>
 
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