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Forever tranquil.

soloman said:
ameyer---- you are not being attacked, only corrected. Forever gets little credit for having things "together'. Their current line-up is largely a bunch of purchased successes, BUS, RSC, QWK, designed and built by others, and now drifting south. Hot was abandoned. Lite lost momentum. Froggy is the only clear success.

Kind of depends on how you determine success doesn't it? Even if you are only looking at ratings, every station can find a niche in the market. After all, even left-handed, one-legged farmers with one tooth need to hear the kind of radio that they like. :p
 
NEWS RELEASE: ARBATRARY...I MEAN ARBITRON ratings released for Sc TSA.


WGMR #1 with Left-handed, one-legged farmers with one tooth need to hear the kind of radio that they like.
(minimzzer 4 to 4 30, maximizzed sun overnights on a leap year)

Thanks to that there AJ "Bellfonte kid" Meyer!
 
Can't be. 3WZ is number one in every category. It says so in the paper.
 
Well 3wz doesn't want to admit that they have no Left-handed, one-legged farmers with one tooth listening ;D
 
jackandcoke said:
Becker said:
Polonius said:
Can't be. 3WZ is number one in every category. It says so in the paper.

Yeah, in their own advertisement. :-*

Are they lying?

I'm sure they are doing what everyone else does. They take the segments that are number one and then plaster it all over the place knowing no one will read that teeny tiny little print at the bottom of the ad that tells the REAL truth.
 
Becker said:
jackandcoke said:
Becker said:
Polonius said:
Can't be. 3WZ is number one in every category. It says so in the paper.

Yeah, in their own advertisement. :-*

Are they lying?

I'm sure they are doing what everyone else does. They take the segments that are number one and then plaster it all over the place knowing no one will read that teeny tiny little print at the bottom of the ad that tells the REAL truth.

So what are the segments that are number one they've got plastered all over the place and what's the REAL truth?
 
Street talk, which Wiseman wisely disdains (usually), is adament that change is upsetting the tranquil waters once again. Can any radio inside fact-checkers confirm?
 
wiseman said:
Street talk, which Wiseman wisely disdains (usually), is adament that change is upsetting the tranquil waters once again. Can any radio inside fact-checkers confirm?

Spackler hears that Forever State College will be in search of a new GM soon...again. And maybe a new Sales Manager too.

We are referring to ourselves in the third person, right?
 
I refer to myself in the third person a lot it makes me feel more important...lol

Ok so if there is a change in the waters at Forever and AJ can't say whether there is or not cause AJ has not heard that rumor...AJ would say it has to be because of a rumbling on the street that can't be confirmed until the numbers are released, if this so called rumor is true it will have a lot of stations in the market running scared.....
Again this all just speculation though!
 
ameyer said:
I refer to myself in the third person a lot it makes me feel more important...lol

Ok so if there is a change in the waters at Forever and AJ can't say whether there is or not cause AJ has not heard that rumor...AJ would say it has to be because of a rumbling on the street that can't be confirmed until the numbers are released, if this so called rumor is true it will have a lot of stations in the market running scared.....
Again this all just speculation though!

An insider says the GM, Joe Duff, said "Adios" to State College & Carol Logan on Friday. No word on the sales manager, though it might be safe to say that any change at the top is sales related.

Running scared? Why? How many times has this happened since Forever arrived in State College? We've all seen this play, and it never seems to get any better. Does it?
 
Rod Burnham
Tom Yourchak
Don Bedell
Andy Sumereau
Joe Duff

Who am I missing? That's a lot of managers in a relatively short time period.
 
Seems to me the plain and simple of it is that the pie is just getting sliced too thin to be able to make real money. There are only about 40-45,000 townies in the area and another 40,000 students which is pretty much the number of people it has been for as long as I can recall and there's like double the number of radio stations there were about 10 years ago in this market. (including how many crammed into 1 building?) A wise old man once told me you can't be good at everything no matter how hard you try, so pick something you think you are really good at and focus on that. Take 3-WZ for example....1 station, 1 format, sales are pretty darn good (last I heard). 1 or 2 stations to worry about and you can mind the store, but when you have Classic Rock and Rock and Talk and Sports and Adult A/C and Country and who knows what else, its gonna be tough to adequately serve the clients or the listeners. No one can be all things to all people and do it well. Just doesn't work.
 
jackandcoke said:
ameyer said:
I refer to myself in the third person a lot it makes me feel more important...lol

Ok so if there is a change in the waters at Forever and AJ can't say whether there is or not cause AJ has not heard that rumor...AJ would say it has to be because of a rumbling on the street that can't be confirmed until the numbers are released, if this so called rumor is true it will have a lot of stations in the market running scared.....
Again this all just speculation though!

An insider says the GM, Joe Duff, said "Adios" to State College & Carol Logan on Friday. No word on the sales manager, though it might be safe to say that any change at the top is sales related.

Running scared? Why? How many times has this happened since Forever arrived in State College? We've all seen this play, and it never seems to get any better. Does it?

The rumor I am hearing has nothing to do with Forever, Forever may be one of the companies hearing the same rumor I have and are getting ready if said rumor turns out to be true
 
ameyer said:
The rumor I am hearing has nothing to do with Forever, Forever may be one of the companies hearing the same rumor I have and are getting ready if said rumor turns out to be true

Hmmmm. Bigger than Forever blowing out another GM? Is the FCC taking "audio" away from radio? Is an earthquake coming to swallow up Central PA? Did Mr. Hoo Hoo land the BLF morning gig? Give us a clue.
 
I have no idea what the rumor may be, but I'd question its merit on the simple fact that AJ seemes to imply "wait for the book" and it would seem that the book is deemed relatively useless to most at this juncture. Forever is dropping its subscription to the Arbs, so they don't care what the book has to say. Joe and 3-WZ do subscribe, but based on the performance of each last go around, I don't think we will see any earth shattering changes from either. Given the fact that no one else in the market even subscribes to the Arbs, I don't see why they'd wait for the book to make whatever moves are being forecast by the great un-named fortune teller so it kinda sounds like hog-wash to me but I could be wrong...been wrong many times before and will be wrong a whole lot more in this lifetime as well.

Guess we just have to wait and see...but I do think it would be nice if someone would at least drop hints of this "earth shattering news" if they know something. I have to wonder if AJ is predicting more of some kind of "upset" in the books moreso than any pending format changes since it would appear that the market is actually pretty stable (for once)
 
Shilton, don't you work for Forever Broadcasting in a "distant cousin" sort of way? Or is it "kissing cousins?" :-*

And how come no one has enough balls to just post what they think it supposed to happen?
 
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