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Format Change Happening at 93.3 on Friday at Noon

It's to bad that a station like this cannot make it in a market as big as Dallas. We have TOO many the same ole' same ole'. It was nice having somthing differnet for a short while. I'm not sure why they could not make it happen.

I sure hope I can get my Wilco tickets I won.... Anyone on know if that is possible are since they are gone the tickets would be gone ??

Thx !
 
The comments on Unfair Park are entertaining. My favorite, courtesy of "ex-CC radio guy:"

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2009/09/just_four_months_after_going_q.php#comments

My dream for terrestrial radio:

-corporate radio owners go bankrupt at the hands of programming execs who try to program from too high an altitude.

-the bankruptcy forces to the sell-off of the radio properties to the highest independent bidders...and those bids wont be much.

-"mom and pop radio" sees a re-birth..actually run by local human beings who actually live and interact within our own market, therefore resurrecting true, local-based FM music..radio free america.

-radio is programmed by gut, ear, audience democracy, and blind adventuresomeness, fearlessly taking chances for the sake of a band that just..sounds great...no ****ing matter how big or little they are, or how many goddamn records theyve sold: a song-by-song, case-by-case basis, based on the sound of that piece of music, and nothing more.

-the corporate programming execs become homeless, destitute, and are forced to use their callout research spreadsheets as blankets on chilly nights sleeping in the bario.

-people actually become interested in whats on those mom and pop radio stations and start listening again.

Hey..I can dream, cant I?
 
Jed said:
It's to bad that a station like this cannot make it in a market as big as Dallas. We have TOO many the same ole' same ole'. It was nice having somthing differnet for a short while. I'm not sure why they could not make it happen.

I sure hope I can get my Wilco tickets I won.... Anyone on know if that is possible are since they are gone the tickets would be gone ??

Thx !
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KDBN's AAA-ish format debuted to less audience than what "the Bone" had. Since then, KERA announced they are buying KVTT 91.7 and will put on an AAA format by year-end. So, the format will return on 91.7. No doubt Cumulus decided the chances of improving KDBN's ratings would be very difficult with a competitor and pulled the plug now.
 
LibertyNT said:
No Doubt in my mind it will be KLIF-FM And Have a top 40 format.
NOOO!!! god Dont ruin the KLIF call's with rap!
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There are several things you could read into the stunting. One of the liners have said that the new format "will jump out of the shoot" on Friday. Another lists the first names of "legendary" country singers -- Dolly, George, Willie, Kenny, etc. -- and that they all "will have something in common on Friday." Country was the last music format for the old KLIF before it went talk in the mid-1980s. So, one could hypothesize classic country if you just focused on those.
 
txchipk said:
There are several things you could read into the stunting. One of the liners have said that the new format "will jump out of the shoot" on Friday. Another lists the first names of "legendary" country singers -- Dolly, George, Willie, Kenny, etc. -- and that they all "will have something in common on Friday." Country was the last music format for the old KLIF before it went talk in the mid-1980s. So, one could hypothesize classic country if you just focused on those.
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But then how do the Batman drops fit into that?
 
It seems reasonable to predict a Top 40/CHR format like i106 in Nashville. Reserving the KLIF calls is insteresting since those calls don't have significance for younger people...do they? In any case they may have a chance if they get involved with the younger local audience and have high energy air personalities. I mean take calls, play request based countdowns, acknowlege local schools, advertise, etc. Otherwise Kiss has way too much of a firm footprint for 933 to make a dent. :-\
 
Lantern2814 said:
txchipk said:
There are several things you could read into the stunting. One of the liners have said that the new format "will jump out of the shoot" on Friday. Another lists the first names of "legendary" country singers -- Dolly, George, Willie, Kenny, etc. -- and that they all "will have something in common on Friday." Country was the last music format for the old KLIF before it went talk in the mid-1980s. So, one could hypothesize classic country if you just focused on those.
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But then how do the Batman drops fit into that?
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It was part of an old KLIF promo for a contest from its top 40 days. The one I heard finished with something like "when you hear the Batman sounder, call in" followed by a "Cliff" jingle.
 
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xchipk ]
There are several things you could read into the stunting. One of the liners have said that the new format "will jump out of the shoot" on Friday. Another lists the first names of "legendary" country singers -- Dolly, George, Willie, Kenny, etc. -- and that they all "will have something in common on Friday." Country was the last music format for the old KLIF before it went talk in the mid-1980s. So, one could hypothesize classic country if you just focused on those.
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Looking at it solely from where the signal is hottest, any form of country doesn't make as much sense as targeting Hispanic or African-American listeners. I don't have a zipcode map handy showing ethnic breakouts but the 93.3 stick is right in the heart of a high-density Hispanic and non-white area of the market.

If I were bankrolling it, Black Gospel would be the obvious choice.

OTOH, if Cumulus does go CHR, it had better be very urban and Latino friendly. Strictly from standpoint of signal and signal /only/, Triple A may have been the worst possible format choice, IMHO.
 
Looking at it solely from where the signal is hottest, any form of country doesn't make as much sense as targeting Hispanic or African-American listeners. I don't have a zipcode map handy showing ethnic breakouts but the 93.3 stick is right in the heart of a high-density Hispanic and non-white area of the market.

If I were bankrolling it, Black Gospel would be the obvious choice.

OTOH, if Cumulus does go CHR, it had better be very urban and Latino friendly. Strictly from standpoint of signal and signal /only/, Triple A may have been the worst possible format choice, IMHO.
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I think a Top 40 could do well in 933's the city grade contour. There are already stations that appeal to a more urban leaning audience. A middle of the road Top 40/CHR could be successful not covering those demos outside the CHR format. Just my opinion.
 
Sheesh, I stay off the board for a day and look what explodes out of nowhere.

**THIS** is what a victim of Portable People Meters looks like. Tracing ratings down to a exact date and a specific hour. Cumeless musta looked at what was going on at Quantity Rock in "real time" and thought, "Oh, sh*t!!"

**BUT** it sure makes me wonder how long that wasteland called "The Bone" would have lasted, had the PPM been used in their era? A mercy killing in 7 weeks instead of 7 years? (hell, think how quickly some other perennial losers who were left on life support for YEARS would fare with the PPM today: Wild 100, the Twister, Lite 97.9, CD 107.5, Young Country [esp the last 5 years of it,] and Movin' 107.5.)

Still, the brief life of Quantity Rock has to come in as the 2nd shortest radio format in DFW...right behind Cafe 990.

And dear God, PLEASE don't even suggest the possibility of that John Boy-n-Billy drivel coming back to DFW. KZPS already tanked with them from 1995-98. Oh, that's right, 93.3 was the station that thought bringing Walton and Johnson back to DFW was a wonderful thing.

I have no line on what the format's going to be, but paleeeeze...a competitor for Kiss-FM? Remember how well that worked when Y-95 took on The Eagle? Oldies 94.9 took on KLUV? Little underfinanced upstarts are never able to topple the giants here, and sometimes there's just not enough audience to keep two similarly-formatted stations alive...especially these days with that fickle iPod-laced demo that Kiss has, AND with nothing local. Even the soccer moms have moved on.
 
Bob E. Nelson said:
t/quote said:
xchipk ]
There are several things you could read into the stunting. One of the liners have said that the new format "will jump out of the shoot" on Friday. Another lists the first names of "legendary" country singers -- Dolly, George, Willie, Kenny, etc. -- and that they all "will have something in common on Friday." Country was the last music format for the old KLIF before it went talk in the mid-1980s. So, one could hypothesize classic country if you just focused on those.
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Looking at it solely from where the signal is hottest, any form of country doesn't make as much sense as targeting Hispanic or African-American listeners. I don't have a zipcode map handy showing ethnic breakouts but the 93.3 stick is right in the heart of a high-density Hispanic and non-white area of the market.

If I were bankrolling it, Black Gospel would be the obvious choice.

OTOH, if Cumulus does go CHR, it had better be very urban and Latino friendly. Strictly from standpoint of signal and signal /only/, Triple A may have been the worst possible format choice, IMHO.
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It could work, but who would be the air staff...KHVN already has Yolanda Adams. The company that runs Musical Soulfood has moved out of Dallas.
 
MikeShannon914 said:
Sheesh, I stay off the board for a day and look what explodes out of nowhere.

**THIS** is what a victim of Portable People Meters looks like. Tracing ratings down to a exact date and a specific hour. Cumeless musta looked at what was going on at Quantity Rock in "real time" and thought, "Oh, sh*t!!"
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Perhaps with another AAA coming soon on a full market signal (KERA's future AAA on KVTT by year-end) also factored into the plans here...the ability to grow would have become even more of an uphill battle.

**BUT** it sure makes me wonder how long that wasteland called "The Bone" would have lasted, had the PPM been used in their era? A mercy killing in 7 weeks instead of 7 years? (hell, think how quickly some other perennial losers who were left on life support for YEARS would fare with the PPM today: Wild 100, the Twister, Lite 97.9, CD 107.5, Young Country [esp the last 5 years of it,] and Movin' 107.5.)
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No one has pulled the plugs on KPMZ or KRLD-FM yet, so the evidence isn't there yet about killing off stations shortly that don't produce.

Still, the brief life of Quantity Rock has to come in as the 2nd shortest radio format in DFW...right behind Cafe 990.
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92.5 went through formats in 1986. It started off the year as top 40 KAFM. It mid-February, it re-imaged as top 40 KZPW "Z92.5, Your Power Station." It changed calls from KZPW to KZPS 8 days later. By May, it had evolved to hot AC. Then came the addition of "Enerjazz" at nights. By the end of summer, it was more of an AC/jazz nights. By October, it was classic hits/oldies and jazz nights "Classic Hits 92.5."
 
From what i can tell.
if they were to do an Oldies Format it would be for this reason
96.7 is a rimshot and doesnt cover all the market with a solid signal in Dallas.
93.3 puts a good signal into dallas. and cumulus figures if a rimshot can pull decent numbers with oldies. why cant a station actually in Dallas do it? 96.7 was able to pull numbers even with KLUV. im thinking they think KLIF-FM might be able to as well. Because it would be nostalgic to the demo that oldies targets. as from what i can tell there are a good chunk of people that listened to KLIF back when they were Top 40.

At This Time the Music playing right now is Oldies. they seem to throw alot of oldies in the Music Loop.
 
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