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Format Change Predictions?

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kms575

This CT board is too quiet. I know Connecticut is boring, but come on.
Anyone have any "preductions" for format flips? IMHO, I think Power 104-1's days are numbered. And, Kiss is being run into the ground. Is there a change to the Hartford radio landscape? Or, is terrestrial radio just dead?
 
kms575 said:
This CT board is too quiet. I know Connecticut is boring, but come on.
Anyone have any "preductions" for format flips? IMHO, I think Power 104-1's days are numbered. And, Kiss is being run into the ground. Is there a change to the Hartford radio landscape? Or, is terrestrial radio just dead?
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Power is only here to keep hot 93.7, from the top ( or near the top ) of Hartford Ratings . Kiss 95.7 need to be flip , KC can handle the Top 40 crowd .
 
I'd only accept 104 being a Spanish station...if the AM stations around here flip to something else at the same time.
 
Rapking, I agree with you 100%
Power IS there to keep hot down and YES kiss needs to flip. I have thought KC 101 is the better top 40 for a long time. I think given the right marketing they would do very well.
They have better imaging better jocks and musically I think they are right on as a mainstream top 40.
What would you do with KISS if you were to flip it?
 
caliv said:
Rapking, I agree with you 100%
Power IS there to keep hot down and YES kiss needs to flip. I have thought KC 101 is the better top 40 for a long time. I think given the right marketing they would do very well.
They have better imaging better jocks and musically I think they are right on as a mainstream top 40.
What would you do with KISS if you were to flip it?
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I agree to a point, taking some share away from the competition makes sense. But, doesn't it make more sense to have something that increases your market share and audience? i.e. if 104.1 flipped to a new format and increased its listenership and revenue, of course it would be more successful in its own right.
 
104 is a loser frequency - they've always been "flavor of the month" - they need a format that will stick. in the land of steady habits, 104 has never been steady. kiss is such a has been - don't know if they are making money, after all, that is key. it kills me that courtney is keeping their ratings afloat. is she that good? i've tried to listen for a bit...just can't stick with her shtick.
 
I used to enjoy the morning show when Ross was around. He used to keep "the children" in check. He was a good balance with Courtney and Steven Coates. The whole thing seems like a sinking ship to me now.
 
SINKING.....
That ship is sunk.
It seems to me that CC isn't really paying attention to KISS. You can tell by the product. There was a time when CC saw WKSS as THE heritage top 40 in Southern New England. They protected it, and invested time and money into it. Now....Just listen for 1 hour anytime betwen 6a and 12a and you can tell that the eyes are off KISS. It truly is UN listenable. I would be very concerned if I was on the programming / promotions staff at KISS. I would wonder why nobody (except a very lame pd) wants to work with the morning show, or why the station would be allowed to sound as terrible as it does.
Let them drive it further into the ground and it will be easier to blow up and switch formats. Let the morning show sound that bad and it is likely that nobody else in the market will pick Courtney up once they make a change. I hear thats what they did to Ross B.
Thoughts? I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks.
 
caliv said:
Rapking, I agree with you 100%
Power IS there to keep hot down and YES kiss needs to flip. I have thought KC 101 is the better top 40 for a long time. I think given the right marketing they would do very well.
They have better imaging better jocks and musically I think they are right on as a mainstream top 40.
What would you do with KISS if you were to flip it?
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Power would do a lot better without that hideous Wendy Williams show. It is an immediate turn-off to a good percentage of their audience. Particularly the non-black female listeners, who probably make up 80% of this station's listenership. Hartford isn't New York and Power isn't WBLS. Different listener profiles. Actually, it amazes me that she works anywhere outside of NYC.

As for the KC-101 vs. Kiss debate - you all are forgetting one important thing: New Haven and Hartford are two different markets and are programmed as such by corporate owners. KC-101 is programmed with New Haven in mind and Kiss is programmed for the Hartford audience. Each market has different demographics and (to an extent) tastes.

Yes, the stations with transmitters atop West Peak can reach both - but they tend to emphasize (and do better in) Hartford, as its a larger market. I know that Kiss is up there too, and Kiss is geared toward the Hartford market. Only those stations with a fairly unique format (DRC comes to mind) see success in New Haven too. But, Hartford will always come first. Fact of life.

Yes, Hartford stations can do ok in NH - it is possible, but it is not their primary goal.

On the other hand, KC-101 will NEVER do very well in Hartford. Never has and never will. Too many reception holes and it has historically been too much of a "New Haven" station. No, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But, Hartford is a secondary market for them. Always has been. It's the case for all of the New Haven stations. Even WPLR, back when its rock programming was unique, was on the second tier in the Hartford ratings.

You simply cannot lump the 2 markets together as you're trying to do. If Kiss changes format, Hartford is without a CHR - its as simple as that. KC-101 is not going to be a reasonable substitute, at least not in a business sense.
 
I forgot about Wendy...To be honest I have only listened to her 2 or maybe 3 times. I found that I would either get bored with her or completely tune her out.

I have to disagree with you regarding KC 101 vs. Kiss....I should say SLIGHTLY disagree.

You're right New Haven and Hartford are 2 completely different markets...BUT, if Kiss were to flip I have to believe that KC 101 would see a pretty big spike in Hartford. I think the solution is to simulcast the KC 101 staff on both 101.3 and 95.7. I've seen crazier things happen...LOL

The only problem is WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?

I'd really hate to see the Kiss 95.7 name go away but at the same time KC 101 is the CT. Heritage top 40.
 
If Kiss 95.7 does flip away from CHR/Top 40 could we see 96.5 TIC go more that way? I wouldn't want Hot 93.7 to go that way which I doubt they would. Good idea for Clear Channel just have KC 101 on both 95.7 and 101.3. I'd think maybe Clear Channel will sell Kiss and not Power as CC has to sell one Hartford station. If they do sell Kiss, CC should flip Power to Urban AC.
 
My dream would be kc 101 flipping to rock... as most of you are aware the northern NYC metro area doesn't have anything for rock music anymore. 92.3 Free fm is always talk and it seems the majority of the time on the weekends its sports which I think is rediculous. KC-101 covers most of southern fairfield county (and yes I get it on good radio here in greenwich) the other parts of the NYC city have have DHA 105.5 and WRAT 95.9 where fairfield county doesn't.. and let me tell you it sucks not have any good rock to listen to anymore especially with WBON 98.5 gone as well as the LP 104.5 from long island. I used to love to listen to both on I-95. allthough we do have 95.9 the FOX I would rather listen to q-104.3 but in summery, we have tons of classic rock down here but no rock. this is why I dream of KC-101 flipping.



Ken said:
If Kiss 95.7 does flip away from CHR/Top 40 could we see 96.5 TIC go more that way? I wouldn't want Hot 93.7 to go that way which I doubt they would. Good idea for Clear Channel just have KC 101 on both 95.7 and 101.3. I'd think maybe Clear Channel will sell Kiss and not Power as CC has to sell one Hartford station. If they do sell Kiss, CC should flip Power to Urban AC.
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Don't hold your breath. Rock doesn't make any money and let's face it...It's all about the money.
I miss K-Rock too but, there's just no money in the demo.
 
Not all rock is a failure. WMMR does pretty well for itself in Philadelphia.
New York not having a rock station is quite incredible.
New Haven was WPLR, it bills well, doesn't it?
Hartford of course has WCCC, though I think there is so much potential for that station. It just sounds so amatrueish to me.

KC 101 will not be going anywhere, IMHO.
 
not to mention, kc101 has a spotty signal at-best south of norwalk b/c of 101.1 in nyc. you can barely pick them up in stamford. jamie, you must have an awesome radio to pick them up in greenwich. i think the most you can hope for is for kc101 to put some form of rock on their hd2...and then you really wouldn't be able to pick them up. i think hd2 signals manage to cover a couple of blocks - lol. :p
 
Anybody know if HD will ever get stronger?
I have an HD radio and honestly only get 1 station.
I really should have done some research before making the investment...I gotta believe that in time all hd signals will be stronger.
 
thank CT-mike.... If it wasn't for his webpage, I don't know what I'd do ;) my carver tx-11 kicks some serious ass... I love the summer months when I can get WYSP and WMMR on those rare DX days... maybe I can get on hd?
When I made selections for cars three years all I cared about is I got car with a good radio... (subaru outback)
I just got a sangean Hdt-1 up here in VT (tax free from target.com if mailed to Vt & dirt cheep!) and I proudly get and listen to 105.1 Tos which for some odd reason has RDS. I as well as scanning through the stations had one blinking with HD and was able to get the subchannels. thought that was really cool! I'll let you guys know what I get when I get home this weekend...
t would be a dream for me if 95.9 or 96.7 started hd-2 with rock...

bigmax said:
not to mention, kc101 has a spotty signal at-best south of norwalk b/c of 101.1 in nyc. you can barely pick them up in stamford. jamie, you must have an awesome radio to pick them up in greenwich. i think the most you can hope for is for kc101 to put some form of rock on their hd2...and then you really wouldn't be able to pick them up. i think hd2 signals manage to cover a couple of blocks - lol. :p
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