format change predictions

[RadioPhillyFan]

WPEN - Alternative
WPHI - Will be sold - most likely to CBS or an out of market company.
WBEN - Oldies or CHR


WBEN is unlikely - but it'll happen within 2 years.
What are your thoughts and predictions?

 

[pab]

WPEN - Alternative
WPHI - Will be sold - most likely to CBS or an out of market company.
WBEN - Oldies or CHR


WBEN is unlikely - but it'll happen within 2 years.
What are your thoughts and predictions?

WBEN may morph into "modern oldies," which would be a natural shift from their Jack-like format.

WPEN as alternative? Unlikely.

And if Radio One sold a station (unlikely) it would not sell to CBS.

 

[mrbrightside]

WPEN - Alternative
WPHI - Will be sold - most likely to CBS or an out of market company.
WBEN - Oldies or CHR


WBEN is unlikely - but it'll happen within 2 years.
What are your thoughts and predictions?

WPEN- as much as I would love another alternative station in town, WPEN is owned by Greater Media. Putting an alternative station 97.5 would cannibalize MMR.
WPHI- you never know
WBEN- Maybe a Gen X format? They are playing a lot more late 80s early 90s as of late.

 

[imhomerjay]

WPEN - Alternative
WPHI - Will be sold - most likely to CBS or an out of market company.
WBEN - Oldies or CHR


WBEN is unlikely - but it'll happen within 2 years.
What are your thoughts and predictions?

That if you make enough wild random guesses, sooner or later there's a remote chance one might be close to right.

 

[RyanHoward]

Here is my prediction:

WBEN: All-90's music
WPHI: Dance music
WPEN: Big Bands
WKDN: All News(after Merlin purchased it from Family Radio)

 

[imhomerjay]

One out of four,better than Ryan Howard's batting.

 

[JH_Radio]

WPEN: Network talk since WPHT isn't doing it anymore (maybe not, but alturnative on WPEN? with RFF doing it too? I think not.)
At least the version of talk I'm talkin 'bout isn't being done here. I should point out I dont know PHT's rateings when they were doing a format like that, so this idea may be far fetched anyway.
Dance? nah. we saw what WIFX morphed into from Rhythmic AC.
50's-70's Oldies and NAC/Smooze Jazz? I wish but probably not for anybody .

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

WPEN: Network talk since WPHT isn't doing it anymore (maybe not, but alturnative on WPEN? with RFF doing it too? I think not.)
At least the version of talk I'm talkin 'bout isn't being done here. I should point out I dont know PHT's rateings when they were doing a format like that, so this idea may be far fetched anyway.
Dance? nah. we saw what WIFX morphed into from Rhythmic AC.
50's-70's Oldies and NAC/Smooze Jazz? I wish but probably not for anybody

If the market can suppoet two sports talk stations, it can support two Alternatives. 97.5 reaches better into Jersey too, so it can give Trenton and Camden a better signal for Alternative, it can do a harder Alternative format so it's slightly different. If WISX doesn't hurt WIOQ with how close their two formats are, it'll be ideal. Plus 97.5 could do more music in the morning, since MMR has a talk show. Not to mention two alternative DJ's from Q101 in Chicago came to Philly - giving them a morning show here could be another option. Alternative is in the Top 5, Sports Talk isn't even top 10.

 

[imhomerjay]

Aturnative... Must be the format which runs commersuls.

 

[Interstate 78]

Snooze jazz is actually making a mini comeback in some markets on low-power or AM stations. I'm thinking 950 AM might be a good spot.

 

[Seltzer]

WPEN: Network talk since WPHT isn't doing it anymore (maybe not, but alturnative on WPEN? with RFF doing it too? I think not.)
At least the version of talk I'm talkin 'bout isn't being done here. I should point out I dont know PHT's rateings when they were doing a format like that, so this idea may be far fetched anyway.
Dance? nah. we saw what WIFX morphed into from Rhythmic AC.
50's-70's Oldies and NAC/Smooze Jazz? I wish but probably not for anybody

If the market can suppoet two sports talk stations, it can support two Alternatives. 97.5 reaches better into Jersey too, so it can give Trenton and Camden a better signal for Alternative, it can do a harder Alternative format so it's slightly different. If WISX doesn't hurt WIOQ with how close their two formats are, it'll be ideal. Plus 97.5 could do more music in the morning, since MMR has a talk show. Not to mention two alternative DJ's from Q101 in Chicago came to Philly - giving them a morning show here could be another option. Alternative is in the Top 5, Sports Talk isn't even top 10.

Not going to happen. FM talk means not having to pay music licensing fees.

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

WPEN: Network talk since WPHT isn't doing it anymore (maybe not, but alturnative on WPEN? with RFF doing it too? I think not.)
At least the version of talk I'm talkin 'bout isn't being done here. I should point out I dont know PHT's rateings when they were doing a format like that, so this idea may be far fetched anyway.
Dance? nah. we saw what WIFX morphed into from Rhythmic AC.
50's-70's Oldies and NAC/Smooze Jazz? I wish but probably not for anybody

If the market can suppoet two sports talk stations, it can support two Alternatives. 97.5 reaches better into Jersey too, so it can give Trenton and Camden a better signal for Alternative, it can do a harder Alternative format so it's slightly different. If WISX doesn't hurt WIOQ with how close their two formats are, it'll be ideal. Plus 97.5 could do more music in the morning, since MMR has a talk show. Not to mention two alternative DJ's from Q101 in Chicago came to Philly - giving them a morning show here could be another option. Alternative is in the Top 5, Sports Talk isn't even top 10.

Not going to happen. FM talk means not having to pay music licensing fees.

I can't fathom them being content with the lowest cume and share in the city.

 

[JH_Radio]

WNWV just switched from AAA to Nac/SJ so ya never know.

 

[MoldaMania182]

WPEN: Network talk since WPHT isn't doing it anymore (maybe not, but alturnative on WPEN? with RFF doing it too? I think not.)
At least the version of talk I'm talkin 'bout isn't being done here. I should point out I dont know PHT's rateings when they were doing a format like that, so this idea may be far fetched anyway.
Dance? nah. we saw what WIFX morphed into from Rhythmic AC.
50's-70's Oldies and NAC/Smooze Jazz? I wish but probably not for anybody

If the market can suppoet two sports talk stations, it can support two Alternatives. 97.5 reaches better into Jersey too, so it can give Trenton and Camden a better signal for Alternative, it can do a harder Alternative format so it's slightly different. If WISX doesn't hurt WIOQ with how close their two formats are, it'll be ideal. Plus 97.5 could do more music in the morning, since MMR has a talk show. Not to mention two alternative DJ's from Q101 in Chicago came to Philly - giving them a morning show here could be another option. Alternative is in the Top 5, Sports Talk isn't even top 10.

You're logic is really wrong in all sorts of directions. You try to point to sports FM stations, yet that's apples and oranges to Music for starters, and 2 you say it can't survive...so which is it? Kinda shot yourself in the foot there. Further ISX and IOQ don't compete, and since CC owns both they are sure of it. RDW competes with IOQ as does PST. Philadelphia doesn't need and won't have 4 Rock stations again. In fact it would really be 4.5 because you can't entirely ignore XPN. Regardless YSP flipping back and failing proved it was Rock overkill (regardless of it's own format issues). The fact that 3 can be successful in one market these days is an accomplishment by itself. If you don't like RFF for alt, you're out of luck.

 

[amfmsw]

Pab pretty much scoped it.

WPHI is too small fish. CBS is already smarting over WNEW in D.C. not covering the entire metro...they won't get burned again witha Class A.

Dallas just signed on a Comedy station, a possiblity for struggling AM's.

The 'morph' is a natural for WBEN and WOGL. The 1st to do it will be a top 3 market leader in the next decade.

 

[jhguthlac]

WNWV just switched back from AAA to SJ? Interesting. The Wave was the first NAC station in the country. Its good to have them back.

WPEN-FM to Alternative? For on earth for? Keep it as competition to WIP. It certainly has a good following. I kinda like the idea of flipping the AM to NAC, though. Philly is not going to support 4 Sports stations for much longer.

 

[Seltzer]

Pab pretty much scoped it.

WPHI is too small fish. CBS is already smarting over WNEW in D.C. not covering the entire metro...they won't get burned again witha Class A.

Dallas just signed on a Comedy station, a possiblity for struggling AM's.

The 'morph' is a natural for WBEN and WOGL. The 1st to do it will be a top 3 market leader in the next decade.

OGL is not going to morph into anything else other than expand more into the 80s.

Modern oldies sounds like Gen X to me which has failed in most places its been tried.

Yes..between RFF, MMR, MGK, and XPN, we don't need another rock station. Anything that would deliver sellable male demos is already covered.

 

[imhomerjay]

Philly is not going to support 4 Sports stations for much longer.

Ans since we realistically have two sports stations, four isn't an issue. Merely occupying a couple of AM frequencies for occasional overflow doesn't, to any normal listener, mean there are four distinct sports entities.

 

[blackgold]

I'll betcha that WPXN will become a commercial free religious outlet for Harold Droning's Family Radio and WOGL will be sold to Brother Scare and his Overblower!

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

WPEN: Network talk since WPHT isn't doing it anymore (maybe not, but alturnative on WPEN? with RFF doing it too? I think not.)
At least the version of talk I'm talkin 'bout isn't being done here. I should point out I dont know PHT's rateings when they were doing a format like that, so this idea may be far fetched anyway.
Dance? nah. we saw what WIFX morphed into from Rhythmic AC.
50's-70's Oldies and NAC/Smooze Jazz? I wish but probably not for anybody

If the market can suppoet two sports talk stations, it can support two Alternatives. 97.5 reaches better into Jersey too, so it can give Trenton and Camden a better signal for Alternative, it can do a harder Alternative format so it's slightly different. If WISX doesn't hurt WIOQ with how close their two formats are, it'll be ideal. Plus 97.5 could do more music in the morning, since MMR has a talk show. Not to mention two alternative DJ's from Q101 in Chicago came to Philly - giving them a morning show here could be another option. Alternative is in the Top 5, Sports Talk isn't even top 10.

You're logic is really wrong in all sorts of directions. You try to point to sports FM stations, yet that's apples and oranges to Music for starters, and 2 you say it can't survive...so which is it? Kinda shot yourself in the foot there. Further ISX and IOQ don't compete, and since CC owns both they are sure of it. RDW competes with IOQ as does PST. Philadelphia doesn't need and won't have 4 Rock stations again. In fact it would really be 4.5 because you can't entirely ignore XPN. Regardless YSP flipping back and failing proved it was Rock overkill (regardless of it's own format issues). The fact that 3 can be successful in one market these days is an accomplishment by itself. If you don't like RFF for alt, you're out of luck.

ISX has a playlist much more similar to IOQ then RDW. RDW's looks like PHI and USL's.
Don't try to argue with somebody who mostly listens to 102.1 and 106.1 - Daily basis. 106 in Morning, 102.1 / 106.1 in afternoon (more 106 now they're 69 minutes commercial free)

I also listen to 96.5 (WRDW) but that's only in the morning.

I understand you'd think ISX is nothing like IOQ, but CC posts the playlists on the station sites. Check them both out; compare the first two pages - then check their Top 10 most played (via whatever source you do)

It'd be like saying RFY in reading (which covers Philly's Metro well) doesn't compare to MGK.

ISX does look more lime WSTW (CHR in Wilmington) and PST (CHR/Hot AC in Trenton - I call it a CHR because the site claims it is a CHR. But is still very comparable to Q102 / WIOQ / 102.1

That being said, I do listen to WRFF - but it has a somewhat soft and unique playlist - which is why Philly can support two Alternatives. GM could make money with WPEN-AM and a music on FM, more then they are now.