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> > Beware! 99.7 Could be JACKED shortly!
> >
> if this happened then sf whould be the first market with 2
> jack like stations
>
Sorry, I don't believe it -- why would they switch to "Jack" (blowing up a station with that much history) less than a month after MAX's debut? The market can't support 2 Jacks.
> >
> if this happened then sf whould be the first market with 2
> jack like stations
>
Sorry, I don't believe it -- why would they switch to "Jack" (blowing up a station with that much history) less than a month after MAX's debut? The market can't support 2 Jacks.
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drtylawndre
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KFRC all gay radio?
they could be a gay format station, play marvin gaye, elton john etc. get karel (kgo) or al rantel (kabc) to do talk, have ellen do an interview show.
they could be a gay format station, play marvin gaye, elton john etc. get karel (kgo) or al rantel (kabc) to do talk, have ellen do an interview show.
Re: your kidding right???
Isn't Energy 92.7 already taking care of the "GAY" demo??? And dude, get her name right, it's ELLEN!!! SF doesn't need two JACK/MAX stations, what they need is a CHR/POP station, and maybe something like KRQR "The Rocker" was back in the day, or a rebirth of KOME 98.5. I think they should bring back X100, since it was on the 99.7 freq., that could be interesting, THE DOGHOUSE on X100.
Isn't Energy 92.7 already taking care of the "GAY" demo??? And dude, get her name right, it's ELLEN!!! SF doesn't need two JACK/MAX stations, what they need is a CHR/POP station, and maybe something like KRQR "The Rocker" was back in the day, or a rebirth of KOME 98.5. I think they should bring back X100, since it was on the 99.7 freq., that could be interesting, THE DOGHOUSE on X100.
C
CKidd
Guest
> > Beware! 99.7 Could be JACKED shortly!
> >
> if this happened then sf whould be the first market with 2
> jack like stations
>
Chris Kidd replies:
This makes as much sense as KFRC going all chinese all the time.
In TV you do not go up against the other networks with the same type of programing at the same time, as you notice one network has a police drama and another will have a reality show at the same time, thereby pulling in different audience tastes.
If S.F. has a Max and a Jack you are only dividing up an audience with the same taste and missing out on that audience with different tastes that KFRC now has.
What are you thoughts?
CK
> >
> if this happened then sf whould be the first market with 2
> jack like stations
>
Chris Kidd replies:
This makes as much sense as KFRC going all chinese all the time.
In TV you do not go up against the other networks with the same type of programing at the same time, as you notice one network has a police drama and another will have a reality show at the same time, thereby pulling in different audience tastes.
If S.F. has a Max and a Jack you are only dividing up an audience with the same taste and missing out on that audience with different tastes that KFRC now has.
What are you thoughts?
CK
Re: KFRC all gay radio?
> they could be a gay format station, play marvin gaye, elton
> john etc. get karel (kgo) or al rantel (kabc) to do talk,
> have elen do an interview show.
>
yeah kfrc might be the one stunning with kgay that live 105 played every pride weekend<P ID="signature">______________
xxnate_doggxx (at) myway (dot) com
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> they could be a gay format station, play marvin gaye, elton
> john etc. get karel (kgo) or al rantel (kabc) to do talk,
> have elen do an interview show.
>
yeah kfrc might be the one stunning with kgay that live 105 played every pride weekend<P ID="signature">______________
xxnate_doggxx (at) myway (dot) com
</P>
Re: KFRC Questions & Comments
I grew up listening to the Big 610 and now only hear KFRC-FM
when on vacation, but I always thought that it was far superior
to KRTH when it came to it's playlist. It always sounded like
San Francisco. My only complaint is that the presentation could be
a little sloppy at times. It reminded me of WCBS in that respect.
But it sure sounded good a few years back when Bobby Ocean and
Jack Friday were back on the air. That's where KRTH shines, it's a tight bright station.
My question is if KFRC-FM really sounds that bad now?
How are it's ratings? Is a format change warranted? It would be sad to
lose the FM now that the original AM is for all intents and purposes gone.
Then again it wouldn't be the first time as the original KFRC-FM was sold and became KMEL back in 1977 or 78 if I remember correctly...
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by calguy on 06/02/05 07:47 AM.</FONT></P>
I grew up listening to the Big 610 and now only hear KFRC-FM
when on vacation, but I always thought that it was far superior
to KRTH when it came to it's playlist. It always sounded like
San Francisco. My only complaint is that the presentation could be
a little sloppy at times. It reminded me of WCBS in that respect.
But it sure sounded good a few years back when Bobby Ocean and
Jack Friday were back on the air. That's where KRTH shines, it's a tight bright station.
My question is if KFRC-FM really sounds that bad now?
How are it's ratings? Is a format change warranted? It would be sad to
lose the FM now that the original AM is for all intents and purposes gone.
Then again it wouldn't be the first time as the original KFRC-FM was sold and became KMEL back in 1977 or 78 if I remember correctly...
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by calguy on 06/02/05 07:47 AM.</FONT></P>
> In TV you do not go up against the other networks with the
> same type of programing at the same time, as you notice one
> network has a police drama and another will have a reality
> show at the same time, thereby pulling in different audience
> tastes.
Radio is different. I can "station-hop" between similar format stations on my car radio and show up in the cume ratings of both stations. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by radio-outsider on 06/02/05 12:54 PM.</FONT></P>
> same type of programing at the same time, as you notice one
> network has a police drama and another will have a reality
> show at the same time, thereby pulling in different audience
> tastes.
Radio is different. I can "station-hop" between similar format stations on my car radio and show up in the cume ratings of both stations. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by radio-outsider on 06/02/05 12:54 PM.</FONT></P>
Re: 95.7 Max FM
> Beware! 99.7 Could be JACKED shortly!
>
Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate playlists."
> Beware! 99.7 Could be JACKED shortly!
>
Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate playlists."
Re: KFRC Questions & Comments
{snip}
My question is if KFRC-FM really sounds that bad now? How are it's ratings? Is a format change warranted? It would be sad to lose the FM now that the original AM is for all intents and purposes gone. Then again it wouldn't be the first time as the original KFRC-FM was sold and became KMEL back in 1977 or 78 if I remember correctly...
{/snip}
Just to clarify ... Infinity isn't going to get rid of KFRC -- either the heritage call letters or the oldies format.
There has been much speculation as to whether Infinity will move KFRC -- the call letters and the oldies format -- to the current KEAR(FM) spot at 106.9 and, at the same time, return to simulcasting oldies on the "new" KFRC(AM) at 1550, once the baseball season is over and the FCC approves the purchase of 106.9 from Family Stations.
There has also been speculation that Infinity will "Jack" 106.9.
If the moderators don't mind looking away for a moment, KFRC-FM's most recent 12+ Arbs were:
Win 04: 1.8
Spr 04: 2.3
Sum 04: 2.6
Fal 04: 2.1
Win 05: 2.2
I think that the station has started sounding better with the Drake-style jingles and a slightly expanded playlist, but (<font color=red>IMHO Alert!</font>) I'm still not crazy about their personality lineup. My fantasy KFRC team would include The True Don Bleu in the morning and Dean Goss (solo) in PM drive, with a bigger infusion of actual personality across the board ... while staying true to the classic Drake style.
Oh, and I would erase Sue Hall's "yaaaay" crowd cheering sound clip. I have no problem with Sue at all, but does she have to play that every time she does a break, no matter what she says?
Straying off-board here: I always enjoy hearing K-Earth 101 when I'm down in L.A., but I haven't listened to Hollywood Hamilton on mornings there yet. Gary Bryan, Shotgun Tom Kelly and Jim Carson are solid professionals and excellent broadcasters, if not still at the very top of their game. I'd love to hear the legendary Charlie Tuna as morning guy on K-Earth.
DJ
{snip}
My question is if KFRC-FM really sounds that bad now? How are it's ratings? Is a format change warranted? It would be sad to lose the FM now that the original AM is for all intents and purposes gone. Then again it wouldn't be the first time as the original KFRC-FM was sold and became KMEL back in 1977 or 78 if I remember correctly...
{/snip}
Just to clarify ... Infinity isn't going to get rid of KFRC -- either the heritage call letters or the oldies format.
There has been much speculation as to whether Infinity will move KFRC -- the call letters and the oldies format -- to the current KEAR(FM) spot at 106.9 and, at the same time, return to simulcasting oldies on the "new" KFRC(AM) at 1550, once the baseball season is over and the FCC approves the purchase of 106.9 from Family Stations.
There has also been speculation that Infinity will "Jack" 106.9.
If the moderators don't mind looking away for a moment, KFRC-FM's most recent 12+ Arbs were:
Win 04: 1.8
Spr 04: 2.3
Sum 04: 2.6
Fal 04: 2.1
Win 05: 2.2
I think that the station has started sounding better with the Drake-style jingles and a slightly expanded playlist, but (<font color=red>IMHO Alert!</font>) I'm still not crazy about their personality lineup. My fantasy KFRC team would include The True Don Bleu in the morning and Dean Goss (solo) in PM drive, with a bigger infusion of actual personality across the board ... while staying true to the classic Drake style.
Oh, and I would erase Sue Hall's "yaaaay" crowd cheering sound clip. I have no problem with Sue at all, but does she have to play that every time she does a break, no matter what she says?
Straying off-board here: I always enjoy hearing K-Earth 101 when I'm down in L.A., but I haven't listened to Hollywood Hamilton on mornings there yet. Gary Bryan, Shotgun Tom Kelly and Jim Carson are solid professionals and excellent broadcasters, if not still at the very top of their game. I'd love to hear the legendary Charlie Tuna as morning guy on K-Earth.
DJ
Re: 95.7 Max FM
> > Beware! 99.7 Could be JACKED shortly!
> >
> Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the
> punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image
> slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate
> playlists."
I was initially skeptical about MAX, but they're not bad. Like most "Jack" formats, it's a bit heavy on the classic rock staples (Journey, the Cars, Boston) but the "oh wow" songs have been killer -- I heard Raydio's "You Can't Change That" and Rocky Burnette's "Tired of Toein' the Line" which probably haven't been heard in this market since they were hits (the Burnette hasn't even been played on KFOG's "10@10" to my knowledge). The question is how much promo money is notoriously conservative Bonneville gonna put behind the station? They tried to steal listeners from KFOG once before with an underpromoted station (the Drive) and we know how that turned out.
> > Beware! 99.7 Could be JACKED shortly!
> >
> Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the
> punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image
> slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate
> playlists."
I was initially skeptical about MAX, but they're not bad. Like most "Jack" formats, it's a bit heavy on the classic rock staples (Journey, the Cars, Boston) but the "oh wow" songs have been killer -- I heard Raydio's "You Can't Change That" and Rocky Burnette's "Tired of Toein' the Line" which probably haven't been heard in this market since they were hits (the Burnette hasn't even been played on KFOG's "10@10" to my knowledge). The question is how much promo money is notoriously conservative Bonneville gonna put behind the station? They tried to steal listeners from KFOG once before with an underpromoted station (the Drive) and we know how that turned out.
Re: KFRC Questions & Comments
> I mostly listen in the car, and change stations frequently depending on my boredom level with the songs, but I'm finding that I default back to KFRC a lot lately. The playlist is longer, and they've gotten smart enough to throw in some surprise songs...not just the same heavy rotation. Other than Cammy, the jocks are fine, though I wish Ron Leonard wouldn't laugh so often at his own semi-clever remarks. Overall, I think the station has improved a lot.
> My question is if KFRC-FM really sounds that bad now? How
> are it's ratings? Is a format change warranted? It would
> be sad to lose the FM now that the original AM is for all
> intents and purposes gone. Then again it wouldn't be the
> first time as the original KFRC-FM was sold and became KMEL
> back in 1977 or 78 if I remember correctly...
> {/snip}
>
> Just to clarify ... Infinity isn't going to get rid of KFRC
> -- either the heritage call letters or the oldies format.
>
> There has been much speculation as to whether Infinity will
> move KFRC -- the call letters and the oldies format -- to
> the current KEAR(FM) spot at 106.9 and, at the same time,
> return to simulcasting oldies on the "new" KFRC(AM) at 1550,
> once the baseball season is over and the FCC approves the
> purchase of 106.9 from Family Stations.
>
> There has also been speculation that Infinity will "Jack"
> 106.9.
>
> If the moderators don't mind looking away for a moment,
> KFRC-FM's most recent 12+ Arbs were:
>
> Win 04: 1.8
> Spr 04: 2.3
> Sum 04: 2.6
> Fal 04: 2.1
> Win 05: 2.2
>
> I think that the station has started sounding better with
> the Drake-style jingles and a slightly expanded playlist,
> but (IMHO Alert!) I'm still not crazy about their
> personality lineup. My fantasy KFRC team would include The
> True Don Bleu in the morning and Dean Goss (solo) in PM
> drive, with a bigger infusion of actual personality across
> the board ... while staying true to the classic Drake style.
>
>
> Oh, and I would erase Sue Hall's "yaaaay" crowd cheering
> sound clip. I have no problem with Sue at all, but does she
> have to play that every time she does a break, no matter
> what she says?
>
> Straying off-board here: I always enjoy hearing K-Earth 101
> when I'm down in L.A., but I haven't listened to Hollywood
> Hamilton on mornings there yet. Gary Bryan, Shotgun Tom
> Kelly and Jim Carson are solid professionals and excellent
> broadcasters, if not still at the very top of their game.
> I'd love to hear the legendary Charlie Tuna as morning guy
> on K-Earth.
>
> DJ
>
> I mostly listen in the car, and change stations frequently depending on my boredom level with the songs, but I'm finding that I default back to KFRC a lot lately. The playlist is longer, and they've gotten smart enough to throw in some surprise songs...not just the same heavy rotation. Other than Cammy, the jocks are fine, though I wish Ron Leonard wouldn't laugh so often at his own semi-clever remarks. Overall, I think the station has improved a lot.
> My question is if KFRC-FM really sounds that bad now? How
> are it's ratings? Is a format change warranted? It would
> be sad to lose the FM now that the original AM is for all
> intents and purposes gone. Then again it wouldn't be the
> first time as the original KFRC-FM was sold and became KMEL
> back in 1977 or 78 if I remember correctly...
> {/snip}
>
> Just to clarify ... Infinity isn't going to get rid of KFRC
> -- either the heritage call letters or the oldies format.
>
> There has been much speculation as to whether Infinity will
> move KFRC -- the call letters and the oldies format -- to
> the current KEAR(FM) spot at 106.9 and, at the same time,
> return to simulcasting oldies on the "new" KFRC(AM) at 1550,
> once the baseball season is over and the FCC approves the
> purchase of 106.9 from Family Stations.
>
> There has also been speculation that Infinity will "Jack"
> 106.9.
>
> If the moderators don't mind looking away for a moment,
> KFRC-FM's most recent 12+ Arbs were:
>
> Win 04: 1.8
> Spr 04: 2.3
> Sum 04: 2.6
> Fal 04: 2.1
> Win 05: 2.2
>
> I think that the station has started sounding better with
> the Drake-style jingles and a slightly expanded playlist,
> but (IMHO Alert!) I'm still not crazy about their
> personality lineup. My fantasy KFRC team would include The
> True Don Bleu in the morning and Dean Goss (solo) in PM
> drive, with a bigger infusion of actual personality across
> the board ... while staying true to the classic Drake style.
>
>
> Oh, and I would erase Sue Hall's "yaaaay" crowd cheering
> sound clip. I have no problem with Sue at all, but does she
> have to play that every time she does a break, no matter
> what she says?
>
> Straying off-board here: I always enjoy hearing K-Earth 101
> when I'm down in L.A., but I haven't listened to Hollywood
> Hamilton on mornings there yet. Gary Bryan, Shotgun Tom
> Kelly and Jim Carson are solid professionals and excellent
> broadcasters, if not still at the very top of their game.
> I'd love to hear the legendary Charlie Tuna as morning guy
> on K-Earth.
>
> DJ
>
I don't know if any of you have heard the original Jack IN THE US... in Denver. But I listen to Jack in Denver, and then listen to Max in SF, Max FM is one boring station. Slow, tired voice and imaging. Too heavy on classic hits side of the format. Just boring radio in my opinion. However, you listen to Jack FM in Denver, extremely entertaining radio station. Fun music more often than not. Imaging has genius writing. It is just a fun radio station that actually has CONTENT!
I think if KFRC did a JACK format like the one in Denver, it could easily be supported, and keep Max from ever getting numbers... again killing another 95.7 format.
I think if KFRC did a JACK format like the one in Denver, it could easily be supported, and keep Max from ever getting numbers... again killing another 95.7 format.
> I don't know if any of you have heard the original Jack IN
> THE US... in Denver. But I listen to Jack in Denver, and
> then listen to Max in SF, Max FM is one boring station.
> Slow, tired voice and imaging. Too heavy on classic hits
> side of the format. Just boring radio in my opinion.
> However, you listen to Jack FM in Denver, extremely
> entertaining radio station. Fun music more often than not.
> Imaging has genius writing. It is just a fun radio station
> that actually has CONTENT!
>
> I think if KFRC did a JACK format like the one in Denver, it
> could easily be supported, and keep Max from ever getting
> numbers... again killing another 95.7 format.
>
Thanks for the tip, 'spasm... I'm listening to Denver Jack's stream. More pop stuff (and more '80s-centric) than MAX. And I agree about MAX's voice & imaging. It sounds cheap to me. And the guy with the annoying voice (he's the actor who played J. Peterman on "Seinfeld") has gotta go. It sounds like they got him to record a bunch of random phrases that they don't really know what to do with.
> THE US... in Denver. But I listen to Jack in Denver, and
> then listen to Max in SF, Max FM is one boring station.
> Slow, tired voice and imaging. Too heavy on classic hits
> side of the format. Just boring radio in my opinion.
> However, you listen to Jack FM in Denver, extremely
> entertaining radio station. Fun music more often than not.
> Imaging has genius writing. It is just a fun radio station
> that actually has CONTENT!
>
> I think if KFRC did a JACK format like the one in Denver, it
> could easily be supported, and keep Max from ever getting
> numbers... again killing another 95.7 format.
>
Thanks for the tip, 'spasm... I'm listening to Denver Jack's stream. More pop stuff (and more '80s-centric) than MAX. And I agree about MAX's voice & imaging. It sounds cheap to me. And the guy with the annoying voice (he's the actor who played J. Peterman on "Seinfeld") has gotta go. It sounds like they got him to record a bunch of random phrases that they don't really know what to do with.
J
Jaycifer
Guest
Re: KFRC Questions & Comments
Cammy Blackstone has got to go!I hated her when she was on KNBR. And didn't Sue Hall get fired from KFRC AM/FM (90's inception), as well as, KBGG and KSFO/KYA-FM?
Cammy Blackstone has got to go!I hated her when she was on KNBR. And didn't Sue Hall get fired from KFRC AM/FM (90's inception), as well as, KBGG and KSFO/KYA-FM?
T
Tom_SF
Guest
Re: 95.7 Max FM
Yeah, "no corporate playlists"... just Selector on auto-repeat.
> Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the
> punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image
> slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate
> playlists."
>
Yeah, "no corporate playlists"... just Selector on auto-repeat.
> Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the
> punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image
> slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate
> playlists."
>
D
DonRevert
Guest
Re: 95.7 Max FM
> Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the
> punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image
> slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate
> playlists."
Anyone tune in? No, and that's the problem.
If JACK does come to town, MAX will wish it had stayed country. I don't think a knockoff can beat the real thing in this case.
> Uh...don't think so. Bonneville has beaten them to the
> punch. Did anyone else tune in to 95.7 this morning? Image
> slogans: "70s - 80s - Whatever we feel like"..."No corporate
> playlists."
Anyone tune in? No, and that's the problem.
If JACK does come to town, MAX will wish it had stayed country. I don't think a knockoff can beat the real thing in this case.
Re: KFRC Questions & Comments
> I'm not sure about Sue Hall - my memory is that she was on 610 in the 80s - and was probably dumped when the format changed to game shows or Magic 61. Regardless, isn't that common in the radio business? Look at people like John Mack Flanagan or JD, who can't seem to keep a steady gig despite their talent - usually because of format changes. AGREED about Cammy! I guess KFRC must keep her because she has some kind of following...though it's hard to imagine. No talent, AND an annoying voice, yet she's lasted for over a decade on KFRC.
Cammy Blackstone has got to go!I hated her when she was on
> KNBR. And didn't Sue Hall get fired from KFRC AM/FM (90's
> inception), as well as, KBGG and KSFO/KYA-FM?
>
> I'm not sure about Sue Hall - my memory is that she was on 610 in the 80s - and was probably dumped when the format changed to game shows or Magic 61. Regardless, isn't that common in the radio business? Look at people like John Mack Flanagan or JD, who can't seem to keep a steady gig despite their talent - usually because of format changes. AGREED about Cammy! I guess KFRC must keep her because she has some kind of following...though it's hard to imagine. No talent, AND an annoying voice, yet she's lasted for over a decade on KFRC.
Cammy Blackstone has got to go!I hated her when she was on
> KNBR. And didn't Sue Hall get fired from KFRC AM/FM (90's
> inception), as well as, KBGG and KSFO/KYA-FM?
>
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