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[daypart]

Smaller markets with no professional sports teams generally don't have a successful FM sports talk station.

Remember, we have UT....professional in all but name.

If Austin is anything like San Antonio, the Dallas Cowboys might as well be local. It amazes me how thoroughly the Cowboys are embraced in San Antonio compared to the stiff-arm given to any other team from Dallas.

 

[mmnassour]

Smaller markets with no professional sports teams generally don't have a successful FM sports talk station.

Remember, we have UT....professional in all but name.

If Austin is anything like San Antonio, the Dallas Cowboys might as well be local. It amazes me how thoroughly the Cowboys are embraced in San Antonio compared to the stiff-arm given to any other team from Dallas.

This isn't San Antonio. For some reason the Cowboys are watched here...but not loved. I don't know if the D.C. store in Barton Creek Mall is still with us.

 

[eepstein]

Don't get me wrong, 93.3 isn't the problem here. It's signal coverage is among the best in the state. The main issue with the 93.3 signal occurs within a few miles of the 93.7 signal which originates just a few miles west of central austin. In certain parts of central austin, downtown, and south austin, there is noticable bleed and interferance from 93.7 on certain radios (especially household and walkmans) Most car radios will do better. However, once you are 5-7 miles away from the 93.7 tower, the interferance issues are mostly gone.

But alone, the 93.3 tower is awesome. I have clearly heard 93.3 from North San Antonio, to fredricksburg, all the way up to just south of Hillsboro--east almost out to Brenham. On certain weather days, I have actually had KDHT/KGSR attempt to overtake KDBN in certain parts of Southwest Fort Worth.

 

[fredcantu]

However, once you are 5-7 miles away from the 93.7 tower, the interferance issues are mostly gone.

I mapped it and pretty much the entire city of Austin falls within 7 miles of the 93.7 tower.

 

[MINDonDAradio247]

However, once you are 5-7 miles away from the 93.7 tower, the interferance issues are mostly gone.

I mapped it and pretty much the entire city of Austin falls within 7 miles of the 93.7 tower.

then i would say that's a pretty damn good spot for a tower

 

[fredcantu]

[then i would say that's a pretty damn good spot for a tower

Unless you're the station on 93.3 trying to reach the Austin metro from a tower 40 miles away.

 

[radioeye]

Don't get me wrong, 93.3 isn't the problem here. It's signal coverage is among the best in the state. The main issue with the 93.3 signal occurs within a few miles of the 93.7 signal which originates just a few miles west of central austin. In certain parts of central austin, downtown, and south austin, there is noticable bleed and interferance from 93.7 on certain radios (especially household and walkmans) Most car radios will do better. However, once you are 5-7 miles away from the 93.7 tower, the interferance issues are mostly gone.

But alone, the 93.3 tower is awesome. I have clearly heard 93.3 from North San Antonio, to fredricksburg, all the way up to just south of Hillsboro--east almost out to Brenham. On certain weather days, I have actually had KDHT/KGSR attempt to overtake KDBN in certain parts of Southwest Fort Worth.

Those interference issues that you mentioned are caused by the fact that the FCC, prior to 1964, issued many, many full Class C permits that did not have the 3rd channel separation requirements that exist today.

So now the FCC wants to do the same thing with LPFM stations and eliminate 3rd channel separation requirements so that more LPFM can be shoe horned in on a financially stressed industry.

 

[jd]

Those interference issues that you mentioned are caused by the fact that the FCC, prior to 1964, issued many, many full Class C permits that did not have the 3rd channel separation requirements that exist today.

Back then 93.3 was KLEN-FM in Killeen and operated with 760 watts ERP. It was a grand-fathered short-space with KLBJ-FM, with roughly 55 miles between them, not the required 65 for second-adjacent stations. As such KLEN-FM was able to not only increase their power but to move even closer to Austin (to the tower at Bertram) under the grand-fathered provisions. The original application for the move was filed in 1985.

There was another example of short-spacing involving another station in Austin, arguably more extreme. Until about 20 years ago there were two full-powered stations on 95.5 in Austin (KOKE-FM) and Waco (KNFO) roughly 90 miles apart, much less than the required distance. Both operated with 10,000 watts ERP, and although it never happened, the stations could have upgraded to 100,000 watts under the grand-fathered provision of the rules. The Waco station, now classified as a C2, moved to 95.7 and 95.5 in Austin was reclassified as a C1, removing the co-channel problem but still very close with respect to first-adjacency.

Finally, to clear up any misconceptions with facts derived from FCC data, the 93.3 transmitter is not 40 miles away from Austin (or more specifically KLBJ's tower); the towers are 31 miles apart.

 

[dlf]

Both 95.5 in Waco and Austin did power up. In the early 90's, KCKR out of Waco would cover Bell County with no interference from KKMJ. You would cross the Williamson County line (right around Yankee Rd) and KKMJ came in like gangbusters and KCKR wasn't heard from that point south. It did make sense for one of them to power down and change frequencies due to proximity.

When you drive on Interstate 10 between San Antonio and Austin, it's always fun to listen to 93.7 around Weimar. West of Weimar 93.7 is all KLBJ FM; as soon as you hit Weimar it's KKRW.

dlf

 

[mmnassour]

When you drive on Interstate 10 between San Antonio and Austin, it's always fun to listen to 93.7 around Weimar. West of Weimar 93.7 is all KLBJ FM; as soon as you hit Weimar it's KKRW.

Ummmm...you mean San Antonio and Houston, right? ;D

 

[willdav713]

Don't get me wrong, 93.3 isn't the problem here. It's signal coverage is among the best in the state. The main issue with the 93.3 signal occurs within a few miles of the 93.7 signal which originates just a few miles west of central austin. In certain parts of central austin, downtown, and south austin, there is noticable bleed and interferance from 93.7 on certain radios (especially household and walkmans) Most car radios will do better. However, once you are 5-7 miles away from the 93.7 tower, the interferance issues are mostly gone.

But alone, the 93.3 tower is awesome. I have clearly heard 93.3 from North San Antonio, to fredricksburg, all the way up to just south of Hillsboro--east almost out to Brenham. On certain weather days, I have actually had KDHT/KGSR attempt to overtake KDBN in certain parts of Southwest Fort Worth.

93.3 kgsr heard in North San Antonio? You must have not been down there recently. That is a Spanish Religious station translator. It interferes with KTFM on my walkman and digital boombox. That would be like picking up KRBE today in San Antonio (i used to dx krbe in the 90s in San Antonio) see my Tempest Nightclubs aircheck on youtube. That is not practical unless Regional Mexican KRIO 104.1 goes off air.

I think the 107.1 change was stupid 107.1 could be picked up from Austin to Katy (see my youtube channel under KZFX/KRBE/KKHT/KGSR 5/1992 aircheck or something of that nature) this was back when they were Star 107 KGSR. 107.1 has way better coverage than 93.3 has and probally ever will. Why on earth would you put 2 spanish language (107.1 and 107.7) stations side by side add the fact that you can pick up KXTN 107.5 in South Austin when you would get less flipping off the dial if you put it on 93.3? Bad move for Emmis.

 

[bgrn198]

I dunno but when i've been in SA I can pick up alot of Austin stations out off 1604 like Majic,Mix 94.7 it's not a crital clear signal but it's fairly good never tried 93.3 I know you can pick up 93.3 in Temple/Killeen and i've picked it up in Waco before in South Austin i've picked up 99.5 KISS and Majic 105.3

 

[prodigy3]

Don't get me wrong, 93.3 isn't the problem here. It's signal coverage is among the best in the state. The main issue with the 93.3 signal occurs within a few miles of the 93.7 signal which originates just a few miles west of central austin. In certain parts of central austin, downtown, and south austin, there is noticable bleed and interferance from 93.7 on certain radios (especially household and walkmans) Most car radios will do better. However, once you are 5-7 miles away from the 93.7 tower, the interferance issues are mostly gone.

But alone, the 93.3 tower is awesome. I have clearly heard 93.3 from North San Antonio, to fredricksburg, all the way up to just south of Hillsboro--east almost out to Brenham. On certain weather days, I have actually had KDHT/KGSR attempt to overtake KDBN in certain parts of Southwest Fort Worth.

93.3 kgsr heard in North San Antonio? You must have not been down there recently. That is a Spanish Religious station translator. It interferes with KTFM on my walkman and digital boombox. That would be like picking up KRBE today in San Antonio (i used to dx krbe in the 90s in San Antonio) see my Tempest Nightclubs aircheck on youtube. That is not practical unless Regional Mexican KRIO 104.1 goes off air.

I think the 107.1 change was stupid 107.1 could be picked up from Austin to Katy (see my youtube channel under KZFX/KRBE/KKHT/KGSR 5/1992 aircheck or something of that nature) this was back when they were Star 107 KGSR. 107.1 has way better coverage than 93.3 has and probally ever will. Why on earth would you put 2 spanish language (107.1 and 107.7) stations side by side add the fact that you can pick up KXTN 107.5 in South Austin when you would get less flipping off the dial if you put it on 93.3? Bad move for Emmis.

Yea when I moved to San Antonio to Killeen I would listen to Hot933 instead of the horrible 98.5 The Beat but then that spanish station came on but every once in a while the station would go out, usually after a severe thunderstorm or something :/ lol

 

[amisdead]

93.3 kgsr heard in North San Antonio? You must have not been down there recently. That is a Spanish Religious station translator. It interferes with KTFM on my walkman and digital boombox. That would be like picking up KRBE today in San Antonio (i used to dx krbe in the 90s in San Antonio) see my Tempest Nightclubs aircheck on youtube. That is not practical unless Regional Mexican KRIO 104.1 goes off air.

I think the 107.1 change was stupid 107.1 could be picked up from Austin to Katy (see my youtube channel under KZFX/KRBE/KKHT/KGSR 5/1992 aircheck or something of that nature) this was back when they were Star 107 KGSR. 107.1 has way better coverage than 93.3 has and probally ever will. Why on earth would you put 2 spanish language (107.1 and 107.7) stations side by side add the fact that you can pick up KXTN 107.5 in South Austin when you would get less flipping off the dial if you put it on 93.3? Bad move for Emmis.

Clueless.