Format flip?

[ajc_trw]

Smartphones drive you crazy with all the buffering.

Not mine. If you have a decent phone, carrier and coverage area, you experience no buffering (at least I don't on iHeartRadio).

Agreed, and with Pandora I use the lo-fi mode which is fine for my dog walks. Data may at times be slow but it's fast enough to get 64kbits.

 

[RicoGregg]

Eh I still think it's ridiculous that there is no active rock station in LA. You've got platinum rock bands under the age of 40 like Shinedown, Halestorm and Deftones that tour all over the country and have no airplay here because all we have are dinosaur stations. Probably why they play Oklahoma 2-3x on tour and LA once.

Hear, hear! Ever since KNAC went bye-bye in 1995, nobody ever really picked up the mantle. There's 96.7 in the Inland Empire but it's a peanut whistle station--once you hit about Laverne or San Dimas, forget it!

And KLOS is "classic rock," of which this is my translation: "We play the same three songs over and over again: 'Stairway to Heaven,' 'Hotel California' and 'Light my Fire.' If we really feel more dashing than usual, we'll play 'More Than a Feeling.'"

Did he say "peanut whistle"? ???

Peanut whistle? ???

 

[Thomps2525]

He must be thinking of the peanut vendor scene in the Marx Brothers' movie Duck Soup. Harpo did his usual whistling and set fire to Edgar Kennedy's hat...but I don't know what that scene has to do with radio.

Thee KLOS comment, however, was mostly accurate, although I would have added a fourth song: Free Bird.

 

[Marv-L.A.]

As long as KLAC has the Dodgers and that signal, and continues to see its billings go up, flipping is out of the question.

David---Can you please explain why KTNQ hasn't gotten permission to boost their signal at night (assuming they've asked the FCC to do so) as KRLA/KIEV did several years ago?

I know that both stations have to 'protect' stations in faraway markets (WWL/New Orleans for KRLA would be my guess), but why can't KTNQ get permission to do likewise? Thank you.

 

[hm insulators]

He must be thinking of the peanut vendor scene in the Marx Brothers' movie Duck Soup. Harpo did his usual whistling and set fire to Edgar Kennedy's hat...but I don't know what that scene has to do with radio.

Thee KLOS comment, however, was mostly accurate, although I would have added a fourth song: Free Bird.

Remember when CB radios were popular in the 1970s? "Peanut whistle" was CB slang for an underpowered radio with a weak signal. I was a schoolkid when CB radios were popular and me and my friends would play "CB" on our bikes. Of course we had to memorize the slang and for some reason I always liked the term "peanut whistle." To this day, I'll refer to a low-wattage station with a weak signal as a "peanut whistle" station.

That's a big 10-4, good buddy, keep the shiny side up and the greasy side down and the bears off your bumper! We gone... ;D

 

[davideduardo]

David---Can you please explain why KTNQ hasn't gotten permission to boost their signal at night (assuming they've asked the FCC to do so) as KRLA/KIEV did several years ago?

I know that both stations have to 'protect' stations in faraway markets (WWL/New Orleans for KRLA would be my guess), but why can't KTNQ get permission to do likewise? Thank you.

KTNQ is already 50 kw at night. It protects Roswell and Pittsburgh. In fact, the night protected contour is very limited... 8.71 mV/m IIRC. That means, even with 50 kw, that there is often night interference in the northern San Fernando Valley, as well as as in the Anaheim / Santa Ana areas.

Since protection to those dominant stations can't be relaxed, there is no way to improve coverage... and it is already at max power.

KRLA got 3 kw at night, and only managed to get the pattern they have by moving KAIM in Honolulu... a co-owned station.

 

[hm insulators]

As long as KLAC has the Dodgers and that signal, and continues to see its billings go up, flipping is out of the question.

I'll have to remember the Dodgers are now on KLAC next time I drive to LA. Man, that team was on KABC for decades! I'm in Phoenix now, but a native of Los Angeles and I love the Dodgers! I don't love the way they're playing right now! But that's for another thread.

 

[oldies76]

and I love the Dodgers! I don't love the way they're playing right now! But that's for another thread.

Playing .400 ball won't cut it in L.A.

25 years since a championship! It's high time!

 

[davideduardo]

Remember when CB radios were popular in the 1970s? "Peanut whistle" was CB slang for an underpowered radio with a weak signal. I was a schoolkid when CB radios were popular and me and my friends would play "CB" on our bikes. Of course we had to memorize the slang and for some reason I always liked the term "peanut whistle." To this day, I'll refer to a low-wattage station with a weak signal as a "peanut whistle" station.

Interestingly, the term applied to low power stations well before CB was created. And it comes from the days before radio where a "peanut whistle" was used for answering throttle commands from a docking pilot or signaling a man on deck to take slack in on a line, or return to the boat. Thus it came to mean a small "signal" whistle when compared with the loud horns of a ship.

 

[traxan]

Eh I still think it's ridiculous that there is no active rock station in LA. You've got platinum rock bands under the age of 40 like Shinedown, Halestorm and Deftones that tour all over the country and have no airplay here because all we have are dinosaur stations. Probably why they play Oklahoma 2-3x on tour and LA once.

Um, what about KROQ and KYSR? I hardly think the demos for those stations are "dinosaur".

No they are full of hipster bands that are vomit-inducing. I'd rather rub a cheese grater against my nuts than listen to Vampire Weekend or Fun.

I've listened to Rock 94.5 in Spokane a few times. Now that's a fun station.

 

[SimiRadioListener26]

Eh I still think it's ridiculous that there is no active rock station in LA. You've got platinum rock bands under the age of 40 like Shinedown, Halestorm and Deftones that tour all over the country and have no airplay here because all we have are dinosaur stations. Probably why they play Oklahoma 2-3x on tour and LA once.

Um, what about KROQ and KYSR? I hardly think the demos for those stations are "dinosaur".

No they are full of hipster bands that are vomit-inducing. I'd rather rub a cheese grater against my nuts than listen to Vampire Weekend or Fun.

I've listened to Rock 94.5 in Spokane a few times. Now that's a fun station.

Ooookaaay. I don't really understand what "hipster bands" means. Please explain to me the difference between the bands you cited and what they play on the stations I mentioned. I'm not a music expert by any means, I'm curious to know.

 

[davideduardo]

No they are full of hipster bands that are vomit-inducing. I'd rather rub a cheese grater against my nuts than listen to Vampire Weekend or Fun.

That you have to express yourself in such a vulgarly graphic manner likely demonstrates some of the advertiser acceptance problems your "preferred" format has.

 

[Thomps2525]

At first I thought that "hipster bands" referred to such people as Zoot Sims, Cab Calloway, Miles Davis and Thelonious Monk. Then I decided to search the Internet and found a fan site with a "Hipster Band Of The Week":

http://www.hipsters-comic.com/hipster-bands-of-the-week/

Among the bands are Knives At Noon, Walk The Moon, Dum Dum Girls, The Horror The Horror....and David Bowie. David Bowie?!?

 

[traxan]

No they are full of hipster bands that are vomit-inducing. I'd rather rub a cheese grater against my nuts than listen to Vampire Weekend or Fun.

That you have to express yourself in such a vulgarly graphic manner likely demonstrates some of the advertiser acceptance problems your "preferred" format has.

That you would judge an entire genre of fans based on one sarcastic comment shows monolithic thinking only radio could produce.

 

[davideduardo]

No they are full of hipster bands that are vomit-inducing. I'd rather rub a cheese grater against my nuts than listen to Vampire Weekend or Fun.

That you have to express yourself in such a vulgarly graphic manner likely demonstrates some of the advertiser acceptance problems your "preferred" format has.

That you would judge an entire genre of fans based on one sarcastic comment shows monolithic thinking only radio could produce.

My observation is only the more supported by the repugnant, racistt and annoying comments made by the KNAC airstaff after it was announced that the format would go away... and by some KSCA staff and their station controlled message board when the AAA format was given its death sentence.

 

[Dave Andrews]

Interestingly, the term applied to low power stations well before CB was created. And it comes from the days before radio where a "peanut whistle" was used for answering throttle commands from a docking pilot or signaling a man on deck to take slack in on a line, or return to the boat. Thus it came to mean a small "signal" whistle when compared with the loud horns of a ship.

Uhh, would that be the same as a bos'n pipe?