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Format Flips

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mammaknowsbest

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Tis the time of year for the ya ya format flip discussion. Given the sick performance of KBKS, THE END and KBSG, they are most likely to be flipped, but to what? KUBE and MOVIN have made a ya ya sisterhood mess of KISS. Steve Rivers is old school and hasn't had a successful station since the 80's. His mega formats, his SF rhythmic failure are what is left of a washed up PD. Bringing in a 60 year old PD to run a CHR makes no sense at all people. KBKS is about to flip to AC, probably FRESH. That is right up Rivers alley. Blow out the airstaff, focus on music that is heavily researched and make a fortune in sales. No one hires a graying 60 year old male to bring in 18-24 listeners. WISE UP SEATTLE!!! Fresh will upend KRWM, KPLZ and bring in some new listeners, plus it is an easy sell. RIVERS IS HERE TO FLIP KISS, not FIX IT. Get real yaya boys of Seattle radio. on another note: END is over, and will go all sports in my view. KBSG is on death's door. Expect Bonneville to launch a Soft AC or just simulcast KIRO within months, look for All-Christmas music on KBSG as the stunt to kick it all off this December. There will be change and mamma will prove once again that when it comes to Seattle radio: Mammaknowsbest!
 
mammaknowsbest said:
There will be change and mamma will prove once again that when it comes to Seattle radio: Mammaknowsbest!
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Well mammaknowsbest, thank you so much for starting the week off with the biggest laugher you've ever posted.
Once again, you've proved that - pardon the pun - you don't know Jack.
 
SeattleRadioPro said:
Well mammaknowsbest, thank you so much for starting the week off with the biggest laugher you've ever posted.
Once again, you've proved that - pardon the pun - you don't know Jack.
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About a year ago, we were told that some major morning talent was coming into Movin'. I don't know about you, but I'm ready to put Pat Clark right up there with Seattle legends such as Pat O'Day and Charlie Brown.
 
Hehehe an FM Sports Talker would awesome in my opinion but that is a real hard sell in this market isn't it? If you are going to have any kind of success as a sports station don't you need to be the voice of at least one of the area's local sports teams to have any chance at real success?

Then again when you look at The Ends performance over the past year it is hard to think any format in it's place could do any worse...
 
Every month when the trend comes out there's more bell-tolling for The End, mentioned in passing if at all, yet The End is still here.

According to the Seattle Times, they had a pretty big success with this year's Endfest.

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsour...slug=webendfest24&date=20070923&query=Endfest

Sounds like all sorts of people of all ages made it out and had a great time at the show, and The End successfully had a big 90's act like the Smashing Pumpkins headline without having to pretend it's still 1995.

Not that chatting about it on this board will have any bearing on the matter, but do folks here really want The End to go away? (Sports talk? Come on.) I don't, and I think it would be a shame if The End went away. I know there's a lot of KXRX fans on this board, and hey, I agree, KXRX was a great station in it's day. But it also isn't 1995 anymore. One thing The End isn't doing is riding on the coattails of their past glories, they're looking forward. Even if they're not roping in amazing numbers right now, they're clearly making some money somewhere.
 
machinehead said:
Sounds like all sorts of people of all ages made it out and had a great time at the show, and The End successfully had a big 90's act like the Smashing Pumpkins headline without having to pretend it's still 1995.

Not that chatting about it on this board will have any bearing on the matter, but do folks here really want The End to go away? (Sports talk? Come on.) I don't, and I think it would be a shame if The End went away. I know there's a lot of KXRX fans on this board, and hey, I agree, KXRX was a great station in it's day. But it also isn't 1995 anymore. One thing The End isn't doing is riding on the coattails of their past glories, they're looking forward. Even if they're not roping in amazing numbers right now, they're clearly making some money somewhere.
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Alternative couldn't be any more dead right now. They know it........listen to The End in the daytime, every other record is from the the nineties.

It's not just the music, it's how little they play. No music in the morning and little in the afternoon.

I hope they're not mystified as to why they're struggling right now.
 
I don't think the music alone is enough these days, you have to have a staff with some entertainment value to keep thing interesting. If all I wanted was the music I can just turn on my iPod and get exactly what I want without the commercials. I listen to the radio to be entertained and get something over and above the music alone.

That is why I think a FM Sports Talker could be a good choice provided they do it right, lord knows it wouldn't take much of an effort to blow that other sports radio station out of the water they just seem to get worse to me on a weekly basis, all I hear these days when I listen is Whah whah whah, sounds like the adults on a Charlie Brown cartoon....
 
Truth and Rumor.

Alternative is not dead. LA has a solid alternative and so do other markets. The alternative in Seattle plays the wrong music. Focus on the core and deliver.

FM Sports Radio does not deliver ratings, but can deliver revenue. There are no first place sports stations in America in any major market or core demographic. There are succcessful FM Sports Radio stations based on revenue delivered.

KBKS is not going to flip format, I have this on good authority.

KNDD will not flip to sports radio.

KBSG should return to the pure format core in delivers. Learn from the WCBS/JACK experience and go back to playing the core Oldies sound and the station will be fine. Bonneville has a tendency to flip FM stations to news, but has been burned by the move in a couple of markets. I think it unwise and unlikely a move in Seattle.
 
radioprofessor said:
KBKS is not going to flip format, I have this on good authority.
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Gee, ya THINK??

Or is Steve Rivers finally getting the chance to try out that Mexican Metal format he's been working on?

Active Regional Mexican?

Rockabilly Techno?

Nah...surely it's the experience from KIIS, WXKS, etc.
 
I think mamknowsbest needs to go home and attend to papa and kids.
Steve Rivers was programming Kiss 108 Boston in the mid 90s, not the 80s, and the station was at the top of the ratings. What was annoying at the time was that he shifted WXKS in a more Adult CHR direction, as Jam'n 94.5 (the Rhytmic in Boston) suddenly became a sister station.
 
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