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Format Tweak of WBMX

Does Mix104.1 need to tweak its format a bit so as not to compete with 103.3 AMP Radio? I'm thinking of things like 90 s and 2000s with less "today". Maybe some 80s too. Maybe Back to the 80s
Friday night returns.
 
103.3 and 94.5 are playing the same Drake song . is this another GBH vs BUR?

WBMX will never be the way it was until 1987 or so, might as well just go off air
 
By September, may sooner, WBZ Newsradio 1030 will quit its legacy frequency and move to 104.1! Just you wait and see!
 
Blackgold commented: said:
By September, may sooner, WBZ Newsradio 1030 will quit its legacy frequency and move to 104.1!  Just you wait and see!

But what would CBS do with 1030??

WBZ will likely never abandon their 1030 frequency, since during the day, it reaches most of New England (except for the northern parts of Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine) and at night, reaches the Eastern two-thirds of both the United States and Canada. Much of the station's success since going to 50,000 watts in the early 1930's is in fact based on having such a huge signal.

So if WBZ does eventually get heard on FM (which I think will be the case within a couple of years), it will be a simulcast with their blowtorch AM signal.

Yes, there was the case of Washington's WTOP (which once had a powerful 50,000-watt signal on AM but is now FM only), but there are also a handful of 50,000-watt AM blowtorches (including CBS's own WBBM-780 in Chicago) which now simulcast on FM. In the latter cases, I would suspect that the owners and managements of those stations have no intention of abandoning their powerful AM signals, which reach further (even during the day) than their FM simulcasts do.
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
Blackgold commented: said:
By September, may sooner, WBZ Newsradio 1030 will quit its legacy frequency and move to 104.1! Just you wait and see!

But what would CBS do with 1030??

WBZ will likely never abandon their 1030 frequency, since during the day, it reaches most of New England (except for the northern parts of Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine) and at night, reaches the Eastern two-thirds of both the United States and Canada. Much of the station's success since going to 50,000 watts in the early 1930's is in fact based on having such a huge signal.

So if WBZ does eventually get heard on FM (which I think will be the case within a couple of years), it will be a simulcast with their blowtorch AM signal.

Yes, there was the case of Washington's WTOP (which once had a powerful 50,000-watt signal on AM but is now FM only), but there are also a handful of 50,000-watt AM blowtorches (including CBS's own WBBM-780 in Chicago) which now simulcast on FM. In the latter cases, I would suspect that the owners and managements of those stations have no intention of abandoning their powerful AM signals, which reach further (even during the day) than their FM simulcasts do.

CBC Radio 1 abandoned Toronto's clear channel 740 AM a few years ago for FM.
 
dhoule said:
Does Mix104.1 need to tweak its format a bit so as not to compete with 103.3 AMP Radio? I'm thinking of things like 90 s and 2000s with less "today". Maybe some 80s too. Maybe Back to the 80s
Friday night returns.

I looked at Mix's and Amp's playlist for the last couple of hours and while there are some songs that they share ("Call Me Maybe", "Somebody That I Used to Know", "Wild Ones"), both stations, however, play songs you won't hear on the other. Amp will not play "The Cave" by Mumford and Sons and Mix won't play "Drank In My Vup" by Kirko Bangz. There are some CHR and hot AC sister stations that have been able to successfully co-exist, like Clear Channel's Channel 933 and Star 94.1 in San Diego. I've seen on another thread that 103.3 will likely lean rhythmic, so there will be enough separation for a listener to know it's not the same station.
 
the golden boy said:
dhoule said:
103.3 will likely lean rhythmic, so there will be enough separation for a listener to know it's not the same station.

theres now 3 identical stations, in boston - 94.5, 103.3, and 107.9. 89.7 and 90.9 are also indistinguishable from eachother, as is 88.5/98.9/100.3 so much for variety!
 
Black gold, I would tend to agree with you but I'm concerned about one thing. Merlin's new FM all-news stations in the top markets and CbS' WNEW in D.C. are doing poorly. Maybe have BZ AM as talk and business with drive times a simulcast of the all-news, all the time FM?.
 
With the departure of WMKK earlier this year and this weeks sign off of WODS, begs a few quick thoughts: Would a combined format consisting of WMKK's playlist and WODS work in this town? They could bring back many of the same DJs that were just let go by 'ODS. Both had pretty good numbers when they signed off, where did all of the listeners for both stations go?
 
dhoule said:
Does Mix104.1 need to tweak its format a bit so as not to compete with 103.3 AMP Radio?

You guys are in a market where Clear Channel owns a CHR and a Rhythmic - how many songs overlap there?
 
Stations are programmed with a target audience in mind. Often songs can overlap in these groups and no ownership group cares if this happens. As long as the target sex and age group is happy who cares? All the extra folks you pick up is just gravy.
 
wcozBoston said:
With the departure of WMKK earlier this year and this weeks sign off of WODS, begs a few quick thoughts: Would a combined format consisting of WMKK's playlist and WODS work in this town? They could bring back many of the same DJs that were just let go by 'ODS. Both had pretty good numbers when they signed off, where did all of the listeners for both stations go?

I'd imagine the 55+ bunch will become WROR and WZLX's problem (at least in the eyes of advertisers), with some in the north finding WBOQ, some in the south finding the Providence station I can never remember the call of. The younger demos, with less of an emotional connection to '60s and pre-disco '70s music but an aversion to rap and teen-targeted acts, might go to WMJX, WPLM-FM, maybe even WKLB as well as the aforementioned stations that still play old songs. Some will retreat to their mp3 libraries or pony up for satellite radio, but there are always many more people who say they'll do such things after their favorite stations flip than actually do so.
 
Don't expect any major tweaks or changes to Mix 104.1 anytime soon. The playlist overlap between MIX and AMP is pretty minimal, especially compared to KISS and JAM'N. Most likely, CBS doesn't expect AMP to be neck-and-neck with KISS 108 in the ratings, or atleast anytime soon. They want to eat away at KISS 108's share, so that they loose their #1 spot in the ratings, and AMP and MIX together may steal enough audience away from KISS to do so.

I think AMP sounds pretty good so far, I've heard them play some surprising Golds such as "California Love" and "I'll Be Missing You", and songs I haven't heard in a while, such as "Knock You Down", "Live Your Life" and "Please Don't Stop The Music". The currents are on pretty high rotation, but it's wise for a new station to do so. The audio processing doesn't sound like it's been changed, but it sounds good with CHR hits, so I hope they don't give it Mix 104.1 type audio processing ;)

If anything, WZLX's days are numbered. WBZ's move to FM is inevitable, and Classic Rock is an aging format. I'll give it two years.
 
beantownradio25 said:
If anything, WZLX's days are numbered. WBZ's move to FM is inevitable, and Classic Rock is an aging format. I'll give it two years.

WZLX listeners are spring chickens compared to WBZ and the station's have remarkably similar 6+ numbers. Right now between ZLX and WBZ-FM CBS owns males. Why on earth would they give that up?
 
That might not be a bad idea, but I hate business talk, and call in shows.
It would have to include 104.1 going all news.
By the way, WNEW IS gaining traction even when they don't relay their signal on 94.7.
There's a big difference between WNEW and the Merlin stations

dhoule said:
Black gold, I would tend to agree with you but I'm concerned about one thing. Merlin's new FM all-news stations in the top markets and CbS' WNEW in D.C. are doing poorly. Maybe have BZ AM as talk and business with drive times a simulcast of the all-news, all the time FM?.
 
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