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Formats: Rock dying

landtuna said:
I recognized only 5-6 artists on that list, virtually all of them known for their Country work.
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Including Tanya Tucker, whose country music was as commercial as it gets. I didn't even know she was still recording. I believe she was only 13 or 14 when she hit the charts for the first time, so she's been at it something like 45 or 46 years. I'll have to check her new music out.
 
TheBigA said:
The new album was produced by Brandi Carlile. It's as much her album as Tanya's. Done in LA, not Nashville.
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Ah, now I know what to expect. As a "voice for hire" Tanya was always a good choice -- pitch her a song and she'd put everything into selling it. One of her first hits (the first?) was "Would You Lay With Me (In a Field of Stone)," which I'm sure got more than a few listeners curious about David Allan Coe. And she was good about molding her sound to various producers, too. Remember her rocking "TNT" with Snuff Garrett?
 
landtuna said:
If I could pick a favorite decade it would be the 70's (with the giant exception of Disco).
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The 70s had good music, especially disco. I didn't really like rock or a lot of what was called "funk".
landtuna said:
Listening to Oldies makes me remember better days - both for me personally and our nation.
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That's not really how it works for me. A lot of the oldies are songs that are new to me, or which I only heard a few decades ago. I just like them because they sound good, or at least better than what passes for music today.
 
TheBigA said:
Chances are good that you won't know them because they don't appeal to the mass audience, so they don't get mass media. But the reason for that is because they make current music that's in the style of what you might have heard 40 years ago. If you don't want music for teenyboppers, this is where you go. Springsteen is on that chart, and his acoustic music influences a lot of the new artists there, such as The Lumineers. Folk/rock, like what Simon & Garfunkel did. Usually they play their own instruments, and write their own songs.
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Never liked Springsteen except "Pink Cadillac". Don't care for The Lumineers or anything like that. I sort of like Simon & Garfunkel. There is, however, a lot of acoustic folk music that I enjoy from the 50s and 60s like The Brothers Four and Peter, Paul and Mary. It bothers me to use the term "folk" because that's also what The Indigo Girls do.
 
vchimpanzee said:
The 70s had good music, especially disco. I didn't really like rock or a lot of what was called "funk".
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I personally don't recognize "funk" as a unique musical genre. It blended in with Disco IMHO.

vchimpanzee said:
That's not really how it works for me. A lot of the oldies are songs that are new to me, or which I only heard a few decades ago. I just like them because they sound good, or at least better than what passes for music today.
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AHA! We have another vote for the Oldies!!! :)
 
TheBigA said:
I think that's why they came up with the Americana name. No pre-conceived ideas. Johnny Cash was considered folk at one point.
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Does "Americana" exclude artists from other countries/continents? All such stations play Canadian artists, including Neil Young, Robbie Robertson and Bruce Cockburn, but what of Elvis Costello (Ireland), Van Morrison (Northern Ireland) and all the English musicians, from Eric Clapton to Richard Thompson to Mark Knopfler? Is their music considered "Americana" just because it isn't straight-on traditional folk music, like The Chieftains?
 
vchimpanzee said:
Never liked Springsteen except "Pink Cadillac". Don't care for The Lumineers or anything like that. I sort of like Simon & Garfunkel. There is, however, a lot of acoustic folk music that I enjoy from the 50s and 60s like The Brothers Four and Peter, Paul and Mary. It bothers me to use the term "folk" because that's also what The Indigo Girls do.
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That's what it was though.....folk music. Pete Seegar, Arlo Guthrie, John Denver (solo and as a member of The Chad Mitchell Trio), Emmy Lou Harris, Joan Baez......there were tons of them in the late 50's and early 60's and then they became less commercial. Some of it folded into the Country genre but it was still story telling (folk music). Lots of ballads in there too.
 
landtuna said:
I personally don't recognize "funk" as a unique musical genre. It blended in with Disco IMHO.
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James Brown would whup you upside the head if you were to call his funk tracks from the '70s disco. If anything, it's a subgenre of soul, but I've always considered it a genre in itself. There's a world of difference between "Cold Sweat" and "I Will Survive."
 
landtuna said:
That's what it was though.....folk music. Pete Seegar, Arlo Guthrie, John Denver (solo and as a member of The Chad Mitchell Trio), Emmy Lou Harris, Joan Baez......there were tons of them in the late 50's and early 60's and then they became less commercial.
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Emmylou Harris didn't start her career until the '70s, and the Chad Mitchell Trio was always commercial, as was Denver. Not that I don't like their music -- I do -- but they don't belong in the same grouping with Guthrie, Seeger and Baez. Seeger goes all the way back to the days of the Weavers and the Almanac Singers (and Arlo's dad Woody), even before the folk boom of the late '50s and early '60s that fell before the British Invasion.
 
CTListener said:
Does "Americana" exclude artists from other countries/continents? All such stations play Canadian artists, including Neil Young, Robbie Robertson and Bruce Cockburn, but what of Elvis Costello (Ireland), Van Morrison (Northern Ireland) and all the English musicians, from Eric Clapton to Richard Thompson to Mark Knopfler? Is their music considered "Americana" just because it isn't straight-on traditional folk music, like The Chieftains?
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No, most of those artists have appeared at the annual Americana Music Festival (which coincidently takes place next week.) Levon Helm, Elvis Costello, and Van Morrison have all performed. As did Robert Plant with Alison Krauss.
 
TheBigA said:
No, most of those artists have appeared at the annual Americana Music Festival (which coincidently takes place next week.) Levon Helm, Elvis Costello, and Van Morrison have all performed. As did Robert Plant with Alison Krauss.
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Then I guess they have no problem with the label. BTW, the late Levon Helm was from Arkansas, which, last I looked, was in the United States. It may have even been threatened at some point by Hurricane Dorian.
 
CTListener said:
Then I guess they have no problem with the label. BTW, the late Levon Helm was from Arkansas, which, last I looked, was in the United States. It may have even been threatened at some point by Hurricane Dorian.
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Sorry...I just assumed the whole Band was from Canada.
 
landtuna said:
That's what it was though.....folk music. Pete Seegar, Arlo Guthrie, John Denver (solo and as a member of The Chad Mitchell Trio), Emmy Lou Harris, Joan Baez......there were tons of them in the late 50's and early 60's and then they became less commercial. Some of it folded into the Country genre but it was still story telling (folk music). Lots of ballads in there too.
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I like John Denver, probably not Joan Baez. The others, maybe.
 
CTListener said:
James Brown would whup you upside the head if you were to call his funk tracks from the '70s disco. If anything, it's a subgenre of soul, but I've always considered it a genre in itself. There's a world of difference between "Cold Sweat" and "I Will Survive."
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James Brown, maybe.
 
As I said, the Americana Music Festival is next week. They have an annual awards show. I just got a press release, and here's who's performing:

Previously announced performers for the Americana Honors & Awards include legends and fan favorites Brandi Carlile, Elvis Costello, Rhiannon Giddens, I'm With Her, Delbert McClinton, Lori McKenna, Maria Muldaur, John Prine, Amanda Shires and Mavis Staples, along with present-day buzz generators Jade Bird, Mark Erelli, Ruston Kelly, J.S. Ondara, Our Native Daughters, Erin Rae, The War and Treaty, Yola and special surprise guests.

The 18th Annual Americana Honors & Awards take place next Wednesday, September 11 at the Ryman Auditorium. The critically acclaimed program will be hosted by The Milk Carton Kids and will feature musical direction by Buddy Miller. In addition to being streamed live via NPR Music and broadcast via SiriusXM’s Outlaw Country, WMOT (89.5 FM), WRLT (100.1 FM) and WSM (650 AM), the show will also be taped for later broadcast on PBS as ACL Presents: The Americana 18th Annual Honors later this fall.
 
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