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Former CNN host Don Lemon arrested in connection with Minnesota protest
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The key phrase in that report is "Minnesota state officials say..."That's not true:
DCYF: Child care centers featured in viral video 'operating as expected'
Minnesota state officials say its inspectors found all of the day cares featured in a viral video last week are "operating as expected," with children present in all but one location.kstp.com
Those "officials" have been accused of condoning, or at least not controlling, years of abuse by those centers. Of course they are going to say that the centers are operating. And that report is now 4 weeks old, and it has not even been supported by the mayor of Minneapolis or the Governor of the state.
What is interesting is that at that station's site I find no follow-ups or actuall investigation by the station itself.
"The media" is not one thing. Different outlets cover stories in their own ways. If Google AI found that story, then it was reported by some form of media. Unless it's not true and AI just created it out of thin air.
Accused by who? An non-credentialed out of state YouTuber? What credibility does he have?
Like I posted, the issue really boils down to ICE detainers. Some are getting confused and think it means the Minnesota Department of Corrections, but the problem is the county jails. The two most populous counties in Minnesota are Hennepin and Ramsey Counties and are where Minneapolis and Saint Paul are located.
Hennepin and Ramsey County jails in Minnesota generally do not honor voluntary, administrative ICE detainers, typically requiring a warrant signed by a judge to hold an individual beyond their scheduled release. Both counties have restricted cooperation with federal immigration authorities, positioning themselves as jurisdictions that do not automatically hold inmates for ICE, unlike other regional county jails.
Hennepin and Ramsey County jails in Minnesota generally do not honor voluntary, administrative ICE detainers, typically requiring a warrant signed by a judge to hold an individual beyond their scheduled release. Both counties have restricted cooperation with federal immigration authorities, positioning themselves as jurisdictions that do not automatically hold inmates for ICE, unlike other regional county jails.
The feds should have done the coordination in advance, rather than just show up.
As opposed to "the Trump administration says"?
Except when it suits the narrative to mischaracterize what the journalists - plural - who were arrested were doing.
Right out of the talking points. Well done. I’m sure the little kids they’ve taken are the worst of the worst. Or the intellectually disabled man who has literally no criminal record beyond immigration status. But yeah, shipping that guy back to the country where he was savagely beaten removes the worst of the worst from our country. Just like the inscription on the Statue of Liberty.
Who here said there were not issues before? The system has been broken and a political football for a long time. That does not mean people should be treated without basic rights.
How many people being murdered would be enough to not be considered isolated? Just throw out a number so we understand where the line is. Because to me, two is way too many.
Surely you can’t suggest this administration is fixing that.
The CNN side is the Fox side. It isn’t 2002 any more. The owners are aligned with the president and his sycophants.
What’s less than none? No actual journalists need to give that clown credence or validity.
It’s like Q-Anon all over again, where every bit of disproof of the inane allegation is somehow just more proof of a coverup. And then we get people barging into pizza parlors and harming innocent bystanders.
True and always in situations like this its always crazier than we think. But in this case its about inciting ICE to go into places because Dr. Oz made an allegation without vetting the information he was ranting about. When Dr. Oz is a factor in increasing the ICE raids around the country then we have to wonder why he went that way from being mentioned as the most charming person among Oprah's fans from two decades ago to being the face behind the Ice Raids it makes their former fans wonder why they supported him in the past.
In contrast Don Lemon the stuff we are looking at are things we have been saying for some time on how free speech/1st Amendment is important to spread accurate information and good quality journalism.
Mr. Lemon is not a journalist. He is a political activist.
Both are protected by the first amendment. This country was founded by political activists. Ben Franklin was a journalist and activist.
What would you consider Nick Shirley?
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I think we can. I personally see the 4th of July as looking back on all of the wonderful things we've accomplished in the past, looking at where we are as a nation today, and where we can improve. Remember; Trump won't be around for ever, and being realistic, he won't start a dictatorship where only him and his comrades can rule for the foreseeable future.
I should probably wrap this up before I get this thread shut down though.
Perhaps I can say a few words. If they get removed later, so be it.
Besides, what's to celebrate about the present-day US, exactly? That it has been devolving (in ways that are almost too subtle for most people to notice) into a quasi-authoritarian regime wherein laws are enforced only against perceived enemies of the state, the truth has no meaning, and facts are derided as "fake news" even when there's incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?
I know the comparison to Nazi Germany has become something of a cliché over the past decade or so, but if one carefully studies the rise and fall of all that and compares it to now, for all the differences (and I concede that there are many), there are some eerie parallels that are difficult to ignore.
Speaking of history, what I will celebrate is all the incredible technological, industrial, medical, scientific, and artistic achievements that have occurred here, things that were possible largely because of this country's unique freedoms and the incredible diversity that resulted.
I'm stepping down from my soap box now. I probably said too much already.....
By the way, I would tune in sometimes because I enjoyed some of his opinions, but eventually he began to be a bit aggressive about them, and as I recall, that aggressiveness is what eventually got him fired. I think the shift happened sometime after the 2020 George Floyd protests in... Minneapolis, of all places!
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I'm kind of felling this way too. I will acknowledge the 250th anniversary as an time to reflect upon the US' early history and what an incredible experiment it has been, but I'm not going to celebrate it because I'm not proud to be a part of this country as it is now. The pomp and circumstance that Trump has planned for it (with his name literally plastered all over it, of course) simply turns my stomach too much.
Besides, what's to celebrate about the present-day US, exactly? That it has been devolving (in ways that are almost too subtle for most people to notice) into a quasi-authoritarian regime wherein laws are enforced only against perceived enemies of the state, the truth has no meaning, and facts are derided as "fake news" even when there's incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?
I know the comparison to Nazi Germany has become something of a cliché over the past decade or so, but if one carefully studies the rise and fall of all that and compares it to now, for all the differences (and I concede that there are many), there are some eerie parallels that are difficult to ignore.
Speaking of history, what I will celebrate is all the incredible technological, industrial, medical, scientific, and artistic achievements that have occurred here, things that were possible largely because of this country's unique freedoms and the incredible diversity that resulted.
Something AI is notoriously prone to is making stuff up, to the extent that it even has real looking references. What's so troubling is that, unless one is an academic or journalist who does it for a living, hardly anyone is going to bother to thoroughly check the validity of those references because, by all appearances, they're plausible and sensible enough that people will just accept it as factual without giving them a second thought.
I'm stepping down from my soap box now. I probably said too much already.....
What was he when he was at CNN?
By the way, I would tune in sometimes because I enjoyed some of his opinions, but eventually he began to be a bit aggressive about them, and as I recall, that aggressiveness is what eventually got him fired. I think the shift happened sometime after the 2020 George Floyd protests in... Minneapolis, of all places!
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That's why dissent is protected. That's why Lemon and many others are there. They are giving voice to other views that aren't coming from the government. The main reason the Bill of Rights was added to the constitution was to protect the people from a tyrannical government. James Madison wrote about it in the Federalist Papers. He was quoted by MAGA when they weren't in power. Now that they are, those same words by Madison apply to those who speak against the government.
Madison would support the press and protestors over the power of the federal government.
Not sure if this has already been asked, but when can we expect Don Lemon to start on NewsNation?
Why would we?
Perhaps because his friend and former college Chris Cuomo did not long after he was ousted from CNN (as I recall, it was something to do with his brother Andrew, who was the governor of NY at the time and was facing some serious allegations and investigations that ultimately led to his resignation).
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Who watches NewsNation.