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Former KZLA Fans Are Out In Full Force

Has anyone noticed that the KZLA jock who get the most mentions on the message boards and blogs is Shawn Parr? Morning man Peter Tilden doesn't get mentioned too much. Maybe the wrong man was doing mornings.
 
It also appears that the country artists are out in full force as well. I was attending the Tim McGraw-Faith Hill concert Saturday night at Staples Center. Tim basically came out and said he could not believe there is no country station in Los Angeles. He said "I think its bullsh--." And he really got a loud response from the crowd in support of what he said. Not to mention that LA buys more country music than any other area in the US. That was a surprise to me...but then again, things that happen in radio these days surprise me too. Are there any stations in LA that are primed for a format change? I imagine with this fallout from KZLA, the station who picks up the format first might score some nice ad dollars...at least in the short term until the listeners go about as they did when KZLA was around and they just assumed it would always be there.
 
leonardo10 said:
It also appears that the country artists are out in full force as well. I was attending the Tim McGraw-Faith Hill concert Saturday night at Staples Center. Tim basically came out and said he could not believe there is no country station in Los Angeles. He said "I think its bullsh--." And he really got a loud response from the crowd in support of what he said. Not to mention that LA buys more country music than any other area in the US. That was a surprise to me...but then again, things that happen in radio these days surprise me too. Are there any stations in LA that are primed for a format change? I imagine with this fallout from KZLA, the station who picks up the format first might score some nice ad dollars...at least in the short term until the listeners go about as they did when KZLA was around and they just assumed it would always be there.
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Reality check: LA is the second largest metro in the US... so everything is bigger than, say, Duluth.

Country was getting way under a 2 share. While it was billing well, it was at the bottom in billing for full Mt. Wilson sigals in English.

There is no viable FM that is billing less than what KZLA was billing, so none would want to swap a format that is grossing more for one that will gross less.
 
DavidEduardo said:
leonardo10 said:
It also appears that the country artists are out in full force as well. I was attending the Tim McGraw-Faith Hill concert Saturday night at Staples Center. Tim basically came out and said he could not believe there is no country station in Los Angeles. He said "I think its bullsh--." And he really got a loud response from the crowd in support of what he said. Not to mention that LA buys more country music than any other area in the US. That was a surprise to me...but then again, things that happen in radio these days surprise me too. Are there any stations in LA that are primed for a format change? I imagine with this fallout from KZLA, the station who picks up the format first might score some nice ad dollars...at least in the short term until the listeners go about as they did when KZLA was around and they just assumed it would always be there.
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Reality check: LA is the second largest metro in the US... so everything is bigger than, say, Duluth.

Country was getting way under a 2 share. While it was billing well, it was at the bottom in billing for full Mt. Wilson sigals in English.

There is no viable FM that is billing less than what KZLA was billing, so none would want to swap a format that is grossing more for one that will gross less.
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KMZT is billing less
 
mostb1 said:
KMZT is billing less
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Yes, it is. And it is family owned, and has far lower expenses, so may actually have cash flow comparable to what KZLA had.
 
DavidEduardo said:
mostb1 said:
KMZT is billing less
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Yes, it is. And it is family owned, and has far lower expenses, so may actually have cash flow comparable to what KZLA had.
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That's not the point, David. You made an incorrect statement.

And it could double or more its net revenue if it switched to country.
 
mostb1 said:
DavidEduardo said:
Yes, it is. And it is family owned, and has far lower expenses, so may actually have cash flow comparable to what KZLA had.
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That's not the point, David. You made an incorrect statement.

And it could double or more its net revenue if it switched to country.
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I am not sure they could double the net... probably not. The gross, yes. But KZLA or any country station is going to be much more expensive to run. And Sol has a dedication to "fine" music, such as jazz and Classical. I do not think he would like to go to country from classical, due to the social stigma it would create for him.
 
mostb1 said:
That's not the point, David. You made an incorrect statement.
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You will never never never never never ever ever see David admit he made an incorrect statement. ever SpinMeister el Supremo

Hi David! BTW his name is spelled "Saul" (spin that!)
 
SuperRadioFan said:
mostb1 said:
That's not the point, David. You made an incorrect statement.
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You will never never never never never ever ever see David admit he made an incorrect statement. ever SpinMeister el Supremo
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What did I say that is incorrect? I know the billing figures of the stations in LA, and I know enough to estimate expenses pretty accurately. I do not think that Mr. Levine could double his revenues in the near future, as he does not have a sales organization, he has nobody like Val at Emmis to lead, and he is low key. And the fact remains that KMZT is very low cost and going country would be vastly more expensive.
 
Uh oh... The idea of KMZT going country gives me the willies ICK... That would be a big setback on a city that IMO lags in sophistication compared to Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle and New York. ???

It is true that LA due to its size would probably be close to number one in CD sales of polka music in the US, but it doesn't justify a format for a full market grandfathered superpower CLASS B FM.
 
DavidEduardo said:
SuperRadioFan said:
mostb1 said:
That's not the point, David. You made an incorrect statement.
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You will never never never never never ever ever see David admit he made an incorrect statement. ever SpinMeister el Supremo
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What did I say that is incorrect? I know the billing figures of the stations in LA, and I know enough to estimate expenses pretty accurately. I do not think that Mr. Levine could double his revenues in the near future, as he does not have a sales organization, he has nobody like Val at Emmis to lead, and he is low key. And the fact remains that KMZT is very low cost and going country would be vastly more expensive.
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The fact of this matter is that once again you have been caught in an error - it happens to all of us. But instead of a good-natured "oh yeah, maybe I was wrong" we get doubletalk, rationalizations and excuses.

Poor David Edward.

We are on to your BS, and you have no KM to protect you.
 
zumahans said:
The fact of this matter is that once again you have been caught in an error - it happens to all of us. But instead of a good-natured "oh yeah, maybe I was wrong" we get doubletalk, rationalizations and excuses.

Poor David Edward.

We are on to your BS, and you have no KM to protect you.
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What error?

This is about OPINION.

The KMZT billing is somewhere around $11 million. KZLA was in the mid-20's. With Levine's frugal operation, he probably has a BCF of over 60% of the gross, or $6 million. Emmis was maybe making $8 in BCF, as revealed in the recent investor calls.

KMZT in classical run by Levine might bill $12 million to $15 million. He does not have the ability to get a good rep, with one FM, since all the good ones are taken. He is not famous for having much of a sales effort, and my guess is that they might bill less in country than they do at present.

That is my opinion, based on facts, Miller Kaplan, BIA, and my experience.
 
David will not admit mistakes. But he is right on KMZT, Saul is not in it for the money or he could have cashed out years ago for a record setting price.
 
DavidEduardo said:
zumahans said:
What error?

This is about OPINION.

The KMZT billing is somewhere around $11 million. KZLA was in the mid-20's. With Levine's frugal operation, he probably has a BCF of over 60% of the gross, or $6 million. Emmis was maybe making $8 in BCF, as revealed in the recent investor calls.

KMZT in classical run by Levine might bill $12 million to $15 million. He does not have the ability to get a good rep, with one FM, since all the good ones are taken. He is not famous for having much of a sales effort, and my guess is that they might bill less in country than they do at present.

That is my opinion, based on facts, Miller Kaplan, BIA, and my experience.
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So, your original opinion was that KZLA was the lowest-billng FM from Mt. Wilson.

Now you say KMZT is the lowest, but that is just your opinion? Was the original opinion wrong?

Are we to think that everything you say is merely opinion and therefore subject to being a flight of fancy?

What is it exactly we are to understand here, David?

Because what I understand is you made a simple, absent minded mistake - it's easy to overlook KMZT - and are now covering your tracks.

My opinion, of course.
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zumahans said:
So, your original opinion was that KZLA was the lowest-billng FM from Mt. Wilson.

---- >>>> my mistake. KMZT is lowest billing commercial FM up there, followed by KZLA.

Now you say KMZT is the lowest, but that is just your opinion? Was the original opinion wrong?

---->>> No, I just forgot all about the KMZT thing. The billing is not opinion: it is right out of BIA.

Are we to think that everything you say is merely opinion and therefore subject to being a flight of fancy?

Because what I understand is you made a simple, absent minded mistake - it's easy to overlook KMZT - and are now covering your tracks.

----->>>> And you are correct, it was an error of omission. We so seldom think of KMZT that it is out of mind. I don't even know which of the sticks it is on up there....
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DavidEduardo said:
El Porniculia: What I understand is you made a simple, absent minded mistake - it's easy to overlook KMZT - and are now covering your tracks.

El Pluperfecto----->>>> And you are correct, it was an error of omission. We so seldom think of KMZT that it is out of mind. I don't even know which of the sticks it is on up there....
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Precedent, ladies and gentlemen.
 
Does anyone know if another station has stepped up to carry the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series races that were running on KZLA?
 
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