Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from Sporting News?
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Fox buying 620am
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autopaint-1
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> Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from
> Sporting News?
>
620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360 degree null.
> Sporting News?
>
620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360 degree null.
D
DiamondJoe
Guest
> Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from
> Sporting News?
Is that so? That might have something to do with the "huge affiliate announcement" Jim Rome has planned for next week. Live in NYC - but on a wrecth of a signal. Unless they up the power, it may not be worth the hassle.<P ID="signature">______________
New York City Radio and TV</P>
> Sporting News?
Is that so? That might have something to do with the "huge affiliate announcement" Jim Rome has planned for next week. Live in NYC - but on a wrecth of a signal. Unless they up the power, it may not be worth the hassle.<P ID="signature">______________
New York City Radio and TV</P>
Why does 620 have such a lousy signal?
> > Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from
> > Sporting News?
> >
> 620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360 degree
> null.
>
Why is it such a weak signal? 5,000 watts on 620 would be a kickin signal in a lot of other parts of the country. Does it have to do with poor ground conductivity in and around NYC/NJ? Signal crowding from other stations in the northeast corridor? Poorly maintained or aging equipment? All of the above?
Seeking answers from you techies out there. Just very curious. Thanks.
> > Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from
> > Sporting News?
> >
> 620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360 degree
> null.
>
Why is it such a weak signal? 5,000 watts on 620 would be a kickin signal in a lot of other parts of the country. Does it have to do with poor ground conductivity in and around NYC/NJ? Signal crowding from other stations in the northeast corridor? Poorly maintained or aging equipment? All of the above?
Seeking answers from you techies out there. Just very curious. Thanks.
Re: Why does 620 have such a lousy signal?
> > > Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from
> > > Sporting News?
> > >
> > 620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360
> degree
> > null.
> >
>
> Why is it such a weak signal? 5,000 watts on 620 would be a
> kickin signal in a lot of other parts of the country. Does
> it have to do with poor ground conductivity in and around
> NYC/NJ? Signal crowding from other stations in the
> northeast corridor? Poorly maintained or aging equipment?
> All of the above?
It's highly directional.
> > > Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from
> > > Sporting News?
> > >
> > 620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360
> degree
> > null.
> >
>
> Why is it such a weak signal? 5,000 watts on 620 would be a
> kickin signal in a lot of other parts of the country. Does
> it have to do with poor ground conductivity in and around
> NYC/NJ? Signal crowding from other stations in the
> northeast corridor? Poorly maintained or aging equipment?
> All of the above?
It's highly directional.
> > Has anybody heard anything about FOX buying 620am from
> > Sporting News?
>
> Is that so? That might have something to do with the "huge
> affiliate announcement" Jim Rome has planned for next week.
> Live in NYC - but on a wrecth of a signal. Unless they up
> the power, it may not be worth the hassle.
>
the major affiliate announcemnet with rome isnt for nyc. his show will clear in boston on the new espn radio 890. they were supposed to be up and running by now but the people running it dont know what the hell theyre doing. the new pd is from portland maine and the woman in charge is jessamy tang. she has no boston experience and it shows. expect the station to be espn radio in 3-4 weeks and rome will get more northeast clearance. Im also shocked that anyone in the ny market would even think that FAN would clear his show.
> > Sporting News?
>
> Is that so? That might have something to do with the "huge
> affiliate announcement" Jim Rome has planned for next week.
> Live in NYC - but on a wrecth of a signal. Unless they up
> the power, it may not be worth the hassle.
>
the major affiliate announcemnet with rome isnt for nyc. his show will clear in boston on the new espn radio 890. they were supposed to be up and running by now but the people running it dont know what the hell theyre doing. the new pd is from portland maine and the woman in charge is jessamy tang. she has no boston experience and it shows. expect the station to be espn radio in 3-4 weeks and rome will get more northeast clearance. Im also shocked that anyone in the ny market would even think that FAN would clear his show.
Re: Why does 620 have such a lousy signal?
> > > 620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360
> > degree
> > > null.
> > >
> >
> > Why is it such a weak signal? 5,000 watts on 620 would be
> a
> > kickin signal in a lot of other parts of the country.
> Does
> > it have to do with poor ground conductivity in and around
> > NYC/NJ? Signal crowding from other stations in the
> > northeast corridor? Poorly maintained or aging equipment?
>
> > All of the above?
>
> It's highly directional.
And it's one of those signals that is trying to find a way to take a tough allocation and turn it into a full market signal. Just isn't going to happen on 620. It's a realatively new 5-tower array in the Meadowlands with most of the other AM's.
> > > 620, The only NY area station with 9 towers and a 360
> > degree
> > > null.
> > >
> >
> > Why is it such a weak signal? 5,000 watts on 620 would be
> a
> > kickin signal in a lot of other parts of the country.
> Does
> > it have to do with poor ground conductivity in and around
> > NYC/NJ? Signal crowding from other stations in the
> > northeast corridor? Poorly maintained or aging equipment?
>
> > All of the above?
>
> It's highly directional.
And it's one of those signals that is trying to find a way to take a tough allocation and turn it into a full market signal. Just isn't going to happen on 620. It's a realatively new 5-tower array in the Meadowlands with most of the other AM's.
Sporting news sold?
If not that station, what about a rumor that Sporting News Radio was sold to another company?
If not that station, what about a rumor that Sporting News Radio was sold to another company?
W
westlife
Guest
620 WSNR: The Flower Power Station
> It's highly directional.
You better believe it!
They currently have a Construction Permit to move the transmitter site out to the Livingston area, with higher daytime power (8500 vs. 3000 watts) and a less null-happy pattern -- although it would take 7 towers to do, versus their current 5-tower array, and these days you really need a stroke of good luck to get any kind of 7-tower AM array built anywhere even remotely close to residential areas or wetlands.
WSNR currently uses a higher nighttime power than daytime power (7600 W at night vs. 3000 W daytime), which is a bit unusual. The new array, if ever built, would switch them to a 5000-watt nighttime signal, using only 4 of the 7 towers at night.
<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> It's highly directional.
You better believe it!
They currently have a Construction Permit to move the transmitter site out to the Livingston area, with higher daytime power (8500 vs. 3000 watts) and a less null-happy pattern -- although it would take 7 towers to do, versus their current 5-tower array, and these days you really need a stroke of good luck to get any kind of 7-tower AM array built anywhere even remotely close to residential areas or wetlands.
WSNR currently uses a higher nighttime power than daytime power (7600 W at night vs. 3000 W daytime), which is a bit unusual. The new array, if ever built, would switch them to a 5000-watt nighttime signal, using only 4 of the 7 towers at night.
<P ID="signature">______________
J
Joseph_Gallant
Guest
Re: Sporting news sold?
> If not that station, what about a rumor that Sporting News
> Radio was sold to another company?
It would, IIRC, also affect Sporting News Radio's WWZN-1510 here in Boston.
WWZN is a 50,000-watt station, but has the worst 50,000-watt AM signal in captivity!
> If not that station, what about a rumor that Sporting News
> Radio was sold to another company?
It would, IIRC, also affect Sporting News Radio's WWZN-1510 here in Boston.
WWZN is a 50,000-watt station, but has the worst 50,000-watt AM signal in captivity!
J
Joseph_Gallant
Guest
Re: Why does 620 have such a lousy signal?
> Would Fox air their sports programming on the station or
> would it be Fox News Radio shows, such as Tony Snow and Alan
> Colmes?
If Fox buys it, they should upgrade the signal as proposed in the CP, run Fox News Radio newscasts on the hour, but...........
.....NOT run talk! Flip to 24/7 oldies instead!!!
(and use some of the former WCBS-101.1 personalities and programmers)
> Would Fox air their sports programming on the station or
> would it be Fox News Radio shows, such as Tony Snow and Alan
> Colmes?
If Fox buys it, they should upgrade the signal as proposed in the CP, run Fox News Radio newscasts on the hour, but...........
.....NOT run talk! Flip to 24/7 oldies instead!!!
(and use some of the former WCBS-101.1 personalities and programmers)
Re: 620 WSNR: The Flower Power Station
>
> They currently have a Construction Permit to move the
> transmitter site out to the Livingston area, with higher
> daytime power (8500 vs. 3000 watts) and a less null-happy
> pattern -- although it would take 7 towers to do, versus
> their current 5-tower array, and these days you really need
> a stroke of good luck to get any kind of 7-tower AM array
> built anywhere even remotely close to residential areas or
> wetlands.
This station has moved around a lot in the last decade. When I was going to college, they were in the Livingston area -- right along route 10 about 1 mile from Ridgedale Avenue. The land was sold, I think, in 1997 to become a housing development. The engineer who re-started WBRW was also in charge of moving the TX site when 620 flipped from Spanish music to Sports. (That's why there's probably still hundreds of Spanish music carts in the trailer in Bridgewater.) I don't know whether they lost the site off Route 10, or moved to the Meadowlands to have a better shot into the city. In either case, they seem to have nulled out a lot of the suburbs in the new (1997) pattern.
So where do they plan to put this 7 tower array? Land can't be cheap up there.
> WSNR currently uses a higher nighttime power than daytime
> power (7600 W at night vs. 3000 W daytime), which is a bit
> unusual. The new array, if ever built, would switch them to
Not really. WMTR is 5kW day / 7kW nights. WLIB is 10kW day / 30 kW nights. Probably different day and night patterns.
Frank
>
> They currently have a Construction Permit to move the
> transmitter site out to the Livingston area, with higher
> daytime power (8500 vs. 3000 watts) and a less null-happy
> pattern -- although it would take 7 towers to do, versus
> their current 5-tower array, and these days you really need
> a stroke of good luck to get any kind of 7-tower AM array
> built anywhere even remotely close to residential areas or
> wetlands.
This station has moved around a lot in the last decade. When I was going to college, they were in the Livingston area -- right along route 10 about 1 mile from Ridgedale Avenue. The land was sold, I think, in 1997 to become a housing development. The engineer who re-started WBRW was also in charge of moving the TX site when 620 flipped from Spanish music to Sports. (That's why there's probably still hundreds of Spanish music carts in the trailer in Bridgewater.) I don't know whether they lost the site off Route 10, or moved to the Meadowlands to have a better shot into the city. In either case, they seem to have nulled out a lot of the suburbs in the new (1997) pattern.
So where do they plan to put this 7 tower array? Land can't be cheap up there.
> WSNR currently uses a higher nighttime power than daytime
> power (7600 W at night vs. 3000 W daytime), which is a bit
> unusual. The new array, if ever built, would switch them to
Not really. WMTR is 5kW day / 7kW nights. WLIB is 10kW day / 30 kW nights. Probably different day and night patterns.
Frank
Re: 620 WSNR: The Flower Power Station
Where in the heck are you going to find the real estate to put 7 towers in the Livingston area? The original WVNJ 5-tower array was up in Livingston and was sold because the real estate was so valuable. A 5 bedroom McMansion house on 1/3 acre probably sells for around $1.5 million in Livingston! Forget about the real estate price, what about the locals who will be up in arms??
>
> They currently have a Construction Permit to move the
> transmitter site out to the Livingston area, with higher
> daytime power (8500 vs. 3000 watts) and a less null-happy
> pattern -- although it would take 7 towers to do, versus
> their current 5-tower array, and these days you really need
> a stroke of good luck to get any kind of 7-tower AM array
> built anywhere even remotely close to residential areas or
> wetlands.
>
>
>
> WSNR currently uses a higher nighttime power than daytime
> power (7600 W at night vs. 3000 W daytime), which is a bit
> unusual. The new array, if ever built, would switch them to
> a 5000-watt nighttime signal, using only 4 of the 7 towers
> at night.
>
Where in the heck are you going to find the real estate to put 7 towers in the Livingston area? The original WVNJ 5-tower array was up in Livingston and was sold because the real estate was so valuable. A 5 bedroom McMansion house on 1/3 acre probably sells for around $1.5 million in Livingston! Forget about the real estate price, what about the locals who will be up in arms??
>
> They currently have a Construction Permit to move the
> transmitter site out to the Livingston area, with higher
> daytime power (8500 vs. 3000 watts) and a less null-happy
> pattern -- although it would take 7 towers to do, versus
> their current 5-tower array, and these days you really need
> a stroke of good luck to get any kind of 7-tower AM array
> built anywhere even remotely close to residential areas or
> wetlands.
>
>
>
> WSNR currently uses a higher nighttime power than daytime
> power (7600 W at night vs. 3000 W daytime), which is a bit
> unusual. The new array, if ever built, would switch them to
> a 5000-watt nighttime signal, using only 4 of the 7 towers
> at night.
>
Re: 620 WSNR: The Flower Power Station
> > > It's highly directional.
> >
> > You better believe it!
>
> Amazing that a NYC station probably comes in better in
> eastern Brazil then in Westchester.
>
Funny you should mention that. I was just remembering how I've pulled in 1010 WINS in Puerto Rico at night, yet it doesn't carry well north and west of the city at all.
> > > It's highly directional.
> >
> > You better believe it!
>
> Amazing that a NYC station probably comes in better in
> eastern Brazil then in Westchester.
>
Funny you should mention that. I was just remembering how I've pulled in 1010 WINS in Puerto Rico at night, yet it doesn't carry well north and west of the city at all.
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