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Fox enters Charlotte...

This parallels the events which occurred in San Diego in 2008:

Station that loses ABC affiliation in late-'70s becomes independent, picks up FOX when they started in '86, only to be stripped of its affiliation after years of loyalty. If you want to see where WCCB will be in a few years, look at struggling XETV today.
 
Better yet, just ask WTVW/Evansville and KOZL/Springfield, both former ABC and Fox affiliates who ended up the same way as WCCB and XETV, informed at the last minute then getting their affiliations stripped. One gets the feeling that this is just the beginning of what we can expect from Fox in 2013, which is looking for fresh new affiliates and dropping older ones like WCCB (27 years).
 
Unless WCCB was unwilling to pay higher rates for a new FOX contract, this still doesn't make good business sense. They're buying stations with little viewership and no newsrooms. It seems like FOX has been doing a good job at alienating its long-time affiliates.
 
My guess is that they'll affiliate with WJZY-TV (CW) channel 46.

As for network affiliation changes, little has changed for us in Hartford/New Haven as late. The last swap was on January 1, 2001. WTXX-TV channel 20 of Waterbury switched from UPN to WB. WBNE-TV channel 59 of New Haven switched from WB to UPN. Today, those stations are WCCT-TV (CW) channel 20 and WCTX-TV (MY) channel 59.

There were network swaps with the "Big 3" in Boston/Worcester and Providence/New Bedford in 1995. Boston had a swap with CBS and NBC while Providence had a swap with ABC and CBS. Portland/Poland Spring, ME lost their FOX affiliate in the fall of 2001, when WPXT-TV channel 51 switched to a WB affiliation. They didn't regain FOX over-the-air until channel 23 of Waterville, ME was converted from PAX affiliated WMPX-TV to FOX affiliated WPFO-TV.
 
nomadcowatbk said:
Will they be picking up CW?

Standalone stations that want to make money shouldn't pick up The CW. Their ratings are so low that it shouldn't be an option. The CW will probably go to WAXN or a subchannel in Charlotte.
 
Eric Stein said:
Unless WCCB was unwilling to pay higher rates for a new FOX contract, this still doesn't make good business sense. They're buying stations with little viewership and no newsrooms. It seems like FOX has been doing a good job at alienating its long-time affiliates.

I think this situation was out of WCCB's hands; with Fox buying its crosstown competitors (WJZY and WMYT), it was wasn't much that could they do. I think this has a lot to with the Fox-Sinclair deal of last year, especially as it pertains up the road in the Raleigh-Durham market, where Fox has the option to buy up to six Sinclair stations, which includes Sinclair's Triangle duopoly of WLFL (an original Fox affiliate, now currently with The CW) and WRDC (MyNet); ironically, that area's current Fox affiliate is Capitol-owned WRAZ.
 
I think this has a lot to with the Fox-Sinclair deal of last year, especially as it pertains up the road in the Raleigh-Durham market, where Fox has the option to buy up to six Sinclair stations, which includes Sinclair's Triangle duopoly of WLFL (an original Fox affiliate, now currently with The CW) and WRDC (MyNet); ironically, that area's current Fox affiliate is Capitol-owned WRAZ.

I don't think there's any irony about it. I think Fox wanted in to North Carolina one way or another, and Capitol decided to protect their Raleigh affiliation at any cost. Thus, they sold WJZY and WMYT to Fox who will flip WJZY to Fox and have an instant Fox/My duopoly. In exchange, I would imagine Capitol gets to keep Fox.

- Trip
 
tripinva said:
I don't think there's any irony about it. I think Fox wanted in to North Carolina one way or another, and Capitol decided to protect their Raleigh affiliation at any cost. Thus, they sold WJZY and WMYT to Fox who will flip WJZY to Fox and have an instant Fox/My duopoly. In exchange, I would imagine Capitol gets to keep Fox.

- Trip

Maybe Capitol wanted to keep FOX on WRAZ, but FOX probably didn't want them. WRAZ is the most trigger-happy FOX affiliate in the country when it comes to pre-empting network programs if it doesn't meet their "decency" standards. But, money still talks.
 
The WRAL/WRAZ duopoly is essentially a license to print money. The duopoly came about months after WRAZ signed on and became a WB affiliate. The two stations could never be grouped today.

Capitol sees its properties as local channels first, network affiliates second. WRAL pre-empts a lot of CBS stuff.
 
Eric Stein said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Will they be picking up CW?

Standalone stations that want to make money shouldn't pick up The CW. Their ratings are so low that it shouldn't be an option. The CW will probably go to WAXN or a subchannel in Charlotte.

and what will WCCB fill primetime with? KOZL has court shows in primetime
 
Eric Stein said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Will they be picking up CW?

Standalone stations that want to make money shouldn't pick up The CW. Their ratings are so low that it shouldn't be an option. The CW will probably go to WAXN or a subchannel in Charlotte.
Apparently the CW's shows get better ratings than nightly reruns of "The Simpsons": former FOX affiliate WTVW/Evansville, IN announced today it would join the CW effective Jan. 31.
 
PTBoardOp94 said:
Eric Stein said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Will they be picking up CW?

Standalone stations that want to make money shouldn't pick up The CW. Their ratings are so low that it shouldn't be an option. The CW will probably go to WAXN or a subchannel in Charlotte.
Apparently the CW's shows get better ratings than nightly reruns of "The Simpsons": former FOX affiliate WTVW/Evansville, IN announced today it would join the CW effective Jan. 31.

Evansville is a duopoly market for Nexstar. The profits from their ABC station will offset the losses that will occur by airing CW shows. The CW lost its Evansville station due to Roberts Broadcasting's bankruptcy, so they probably begged WTVW to become the affiliate.
 
This parallels the events which occurred in San Diego in 2008:

Station that loses ABC affiliation in late-'70s becomes independent, picks up FOX when they started in '86, only to be stripped of its affiliation after years of loyalty. If you want to see where WCCB will be in a few years, look at struggling XETV today.

I guess it sort of fits what happened today. But Fox didn't buy their way into San Diego. They took the affiliation and gave it to Tribune owned KSWB. As I remember reading back then they said they wanted to be on a US based TX rather than one down in Mexico.
 
philosofy said:
This parallels the events which occurred in San Diego in 2008:

Station that loses ABC affiliation in late-'70s becomes independent, picks up FOX when they started in '86, only to be stripped of its affiliation after years of loyalty. If you want to see where WCCB will be in a few years, look at struggling XETV today.

I guess it sort of fits what happened today. But Fox didn't buy their way into San Diego. They took the affiliation and gave it to Tribune owned KSWB. As I remember reading back then they said they wanted to be on a US based TX rather than one down in Mexico.

From what I've read in the past, FOX wanted to make the FCC happy by affiliating with a station licensed in the United States. They had been under pressure since the mid-'90s, when KUSI attempted to wrestle the affiliation away from XETV after FOX bought NFL (NFC) rights.

The only thing keeping XETV on the air with English-language shows and The CW these days is Televisa's deep pockets.
 
PTBoardOp94 said:
Eric Stein said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Will they be picking up CW?

Standalone stations that want to make money shouldn't pick up The CW. Their ratings are so low that it shouldn't be an option. The CW will probably go to WAXN or a subchannel in Charlotte.
Apparently the CW's shows get better ratings than nightly reruns of "The Simpsons": former FOX affiliate WTVW/Evansville, IN announced today it would join the CW effective Jan. 31.

Sometimes Simpsons reruns will get better ratings than the lowest rated local news
 
All this time, I thought WBTV would be the television property that Fox would purchase. The NFC Panthers might like that idea, anyway...
 
DToTheJ said:
All this time, I thought WBTV would be the television property that Fox would purchase. The NFC Panthers might like that idea, anyway...

Raycom would never sell off one of it's flagships to Fox... not with Raycom Sports based in Charlotte.

What is going to be interesting is the additional fallout this is going to cause. It is pretty much a given that Capital sold WJZY/WMYT to keep the Fox Affiliation on WRAZ. As mentioned previously, Fox was the right to purchase the two Sinclair stations in Raleigh.

I doubt CBS and ABC would want to affilate with WCCB. The only one somewhat remotely possible is NBC, but WCNC is next door to the NBC News Channel and the station has strong ties to the News Channel, so that most likely won't work either.

What is going to happen to the Fox affiliation on Bahakel owned WFXB in Myrtle Beach? Will that be shipped off to another station in the marked (most likely WWMB)? Will WCCB be sold to an interest like Univision (which happened to another Bahakel property in the Raleigh market some years ago)? Is WCCB really going to go the route of The CW? Could WCCB build it's self as a strong independent to battle WAXN? Interesting times ahead.
 
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