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FOX...THE CLOCK IS TICKING

Although I'm in Northern California, I have an acquaintance in the sales department at Premiere who is very dialed in with a producer at Fox. He says Fox is the black sheep of Premiere. He also said the CEO of the company recently had Ashwood in his office for a major ass chewing because of the constant turnover at the network.

If Sporting News Radio goes ahead with their plans, Fox is probably done. Ashwood was brought in to stop the financial bleeding at the network, but he's placed the network in a deeper hole than when he arrived. All of the shows continue to lose money. I'm told they have a hot-shot sales guy who has helped balance the loss in revenue since Bruno's departure, but Fox is barely making it.

With Bruno and Kiley and Booms, SNR could be poised for a major comeback. A friend in Chicago tells me they've already made verbal deals with a few current and former FSR people. Look for all new clocks, imaging, and a revised line-up to coincide with the new Bruno show.

Ashwood was banking that no one would deal with Bruno on a national level again and SNR was basically dead a year ago. Clear Channel doesn't want any of their talent to have too much power. Their philosophy is to protect the brand, even if that means you cut bait with your best talent in favor of weak, vanilla talent and bland programming. Clear Channel is a "let's win by owning everything" type of company. Rather than program each property well, they use 3 or 4 properties to dominate. They're basically the mafia of radio.

The truth is, every employee at Fox is terrified of Andrew Ashwood. With the exception of about 2 people in the building, everyone thinks he's a bafoon. The people he perceives as his biggest supporters trade Emails daily about how he has ruined the network. Even his most trusted confidants laugh at him behind his back, and that should be the comfort to those who are disgusted with what he did to Fox. His lack of judgement is not limited to the choices he makes as a programmer.

You know sports radio is getting bad when sports stations start playing non-sports shows. We've got Tom Leykis in the morning!
 
> Although I'm in Northern California, I have an acquaintance
> in the sales department at Premiere who is very dialed in
> with a producer at Fox. He says Fox is the black sheep of
> Premiere. He also said the CEO of the company recently had
> Ashwood in his office for a major ass chewing because of the
> constant turnover at the network.
>
> If Sporting News Radio goes ahead with their plans, Fox is
> probably done. Ashwood was brought in to stop the financial
> bleeding at the network, but he's placed the network in a
> deeper hole than when he arrived. All of the shows continue
> to lose money. I'm told they have a hot-shot sales guy who
> has helped balance the loss in revenue since Bruno's
> departure, but Fox is barely making it.
>
> With Bruno and Kiley and Booms, SNR could be poised for a
> major comeback. A friend in Chicago tells me they've already
> made verbal deals with a few current and former FSR people.
> Look for all new clocks, imaging, and a revised line-up to
> coincide with the new Bruno show.
>
> Ashwood was banking that no one would deal with Bruno on a
> national level again and SNR was basically dead a year ago.
> Clear Channel doesn't want any of their talent to have too
> much power. Their philosophy is to protect the brand, even
> if that means you cut bait with your best talent in favor of
> weak, vanilla talent and bland programming. Clear Channel is
> a "let's win by owning everything" type of company. Rather
> than program each property well, they use 3 or 4 properties
> to dominate. They're basically the mafia of radio.
>
> The truth is, every employee at Fox is terrified of Andrew
> Ashwood. With the exception of about 2 people in the
> building, everyone thinks he's a bafoon. The people he
> perceives as his biggest supporters trade Emails daily about
> how he has ruined the network. Even his most trusted
> confidants laugh at him behind his back, and that should be
> the comfort to those who are disgusted with what he did to
> Fox. His lack of judgement is not limited to the choices he
> makes as a programmer.
>
> You know sports radio is getting bad when sports stations
> start playing non-sports shows. We've got Tom Leykis in the
> morning!
>
I'm also in Northern California, where we get only limited FSR (JT the brick, etc. on 1050) and if there is any SNR here I don't know where it is.

In any event, everything you said makes sense as to what we all see is actually happening. The one thing I wonder most about though is why putting vanilla-type programming makes any sense to ANY network. Lets be simple about this, if the programming is good, people will listen. If it sucks (like Van Hurl), people will not. All this other marketing crap is nonsense that people who sit in their cushy offices come up with, but I think we can all agree that those people don't actually listen to sports radio themselves. If they did, we'd be having a very different conversation.

If FSR is to save themselves, they need to get management in there that can relate to what REAL people are REALLY listening to. In the meantime, lets all hope that us Nothern Cal sports fans get a station that will play SNR's best. Maybe its time for us to petition KCTC 1050 (errr...KNBR) to switch over to SNR as soon as Bruno and Kiley/Booms go national. <P ID="signature">______________
Woody in the East Bay</P>
 
For FSR to save themselves from implosion form within, give the whole network to Uncle Rupert's main lead sport koala david hill and let him run it.
 
> For FSR to save themselves from implosion form within, give
> the whole network to Uncle Rupert's main lead sport koala
> david hill and let him run it.
>
Rupert doesnt own the FSR network Premire DOes. RUpert lends the Fox Name to Premire/Clear CHannel. So its CC thats letting FSR Implode
 
Great insight there. Please post more info as it becomes available. Glad to hear Asswood is being called to the carpet for his ineptitude.


> Although I'm in Northern California, I have an acquaintance
> in the sales department at Premiere who is very dialed in
> with a producer at Fox. He says Fox is the black sheep of
> Premiere. He also said the CEO of the company recently had
> Ashwood in his office for a major ass chewing because of the
> constant turnover at the network.
>
> If Sporting News Radio goes ahead with their plans, Fox is
> probably done. Ashwood was brought in to stop the financial
> bleeding at the network, but he's placed the network in a
> deeper hole than when he arrived. All of the shows continue
> to lose money. I'm told they have a hot-shot sales guy who
> has helped balance the loss in revenue since Bruno's
> departure, but Fox is barely making it.
>
> With Bruno and Kiley and Booms, SNR could be poised for a
> major comeback. A friend in Chicago tells me they've already
> made verbal deals with a few current and former FSR people.
> Look for all new clocks, imaging, and a revised line-up to
> coincide with the new Bruno show.
>
> Ashwood was banking that no one would deal with Bruno on a
> national level again and SNR was basically dead a year ago.
> Clear Channel doesn't want any of their talent to have too
> much power. Their philosophy is to protect the brand, even
> if that means you cut bait with your best talent in favor of
> weak, vanilla talent and bland programming. Clear Channel is
> a "let's win by owning everything" type of company. Rather
> than program each property well, they use 3 or 4 properties
> to dominate. They're basically the mafia of radio.
>
> The truth is, every employee at Fox is terrified of Andrew
> Ashwood. With the exception of about 2 people in the
> building, everyone thinks he's a bafoon. The people he
> perceives as his biggest supporters trade Emails daily about
> how he has ruined the network. Even his most trusted
> confidants laugh at him behind his back, and that should be
> the comfort to those who are disgusted with what he did to
> Fox. His lack of judgement is not limited to the choices he
> makes as a programmer.
>
> You know sports radio is getting bad when sports stations
> start playing non-sports shows. We've got Tom Leykis in the
> morning!
>
 
> Rupert doesnt own the FSR network Premire DOes. RUpert lends
> the Fox Name to Premire/Clear CHannel. So its CC thats
> letting FSR Implode

It gets better. FOX's TV sports division has a deal with Sporting News, the parent company of FSR competitor Sporting News Radio!

I was one of those getting ready to basically write off SNR, which had its OWN period of turmoil a while back...wasn't Peter Brown bounced back and forth off the weekday SNR schedule about 2 or 3 times? But it seems to be heading in the right direction with the Bruno and Kiley/Booms news posted here.

Our local FSR affiliate basically wrote off the network after Bruno left - and wasn't at all happy when Booms was shown the door (he's a local, and did some local work for them in football season). And of course, that affiliate, formerly known as Fox Sports 1350 (WTOU/Akron), is now liberal talk WARF "Radio Free Ohio"... the FSR affiliation got picked up by anemic east suburban daytime rimshot WJMP/1520 Kent.

As for me, I logged almost no non-Rome time with 1350 after Bruno left FSR. His much maligned replacement DEFINES the word "unlistenable".

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
>
> It gets better. FOX's TV sports division has a deal with
> Sporting News, the parent company of FSR competitor Sporting
> News Radio!
>

Think again. That deal ended last month. If you go to Fox Sports.com, there is no Sporting news Logo and there is an icon for Fox Sports Radio. Check your facts.....

In addition, FSR just added WEOL-AM 930 in Elyria, OH. FSR has been adding stations every week, including bouncing Sporting News off of Lancaster (PA), Knoxville, Madison, Pocatello, and Sacramento. Where has Sporting News bounced Fox in the last two years? You cannot name one station. When is the last time Sporting News signed a major affiliate?

By the way, we have been hearing the Kiley & Booms/Bruno rumors for months. Here we are on July 18. Where is the official announcement? If they had such big plans to "re-launch" the network, why are they keeping it a secret?
 
> Think again. That deal ended last month. If you go to Fox
> Sports.com, there is no Sporting news Logo and there is an
> icon for Fox Sports Radio. Check your facts.....

There is. I've seen it. Though wouldn't it be a bad thing to see FSR actually get a REAL website up and running, no?

> In addition, FSR just added WEOL-AM 930 in Elyria, OH. FSR
> has been adding stations every week, including bouncing
> Sporting News off of Lancaster (PA), Knoxville, Madison,
> Pocatello, and Sacramento.

Here's the difference between the two new FSR affils in Cleveland, WEOL and WJMP in Kent:

WEOL signed up with FSR on a part-time basis - evenings 6-10 (usually preempted by gobs of sports PBP anyway) and for a decent part of the weekends. That's because AP All News Radio - which aired at those times anyway, went buh-bye on Friday. They had to find something.

That's unlike WJMP, which is all FSR, sunrise to sunset - with the bigger "name personalities" in Czabe, Van Hurl and Chris Myers (plus Premiere's Romey). WEOL will only air one hour of Myers.

Oh, and a bit of irony: when WEOL first flipped to N/T back in '97, they carried SNR's predecessor, One-on-One for several years...

> By the way, we have been hearing the Kiley & Booms/Bruno
> rumors for months. Here we are on July 18. Where is the
> official announcement? If they had such big plans to
> "re-launch" the network, why are they keeping it a secret?

I'd follow the old line of, "I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you..." ;)

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio

LCCC Radio - The Duck</P>
 
Here's the possibilities I see for Fox Sports Radio's future: 1. FSR and SNR merge and the network keeps the Sporting News name, 2. Sporting News Radio buys FSR and operates both networks much like what happened with the Prime Network and Sportschannel cable networks in the mid-1990's, 3. Premiere Radio Networks lets their FSR naming rights contract run it's course and SNR buys FSR, 4. Sporting News Radio buys FSR outright and folds Fox Sports Radio, or 5. Fox Sports Radio folds on it's own and just has Premiere syndicate all the current FSR shows to whatever stations they want.
 
> > Think again. That deal ended last month. If you go to Fox
> > Sports.com, there is no Sporting news Logo and there is an
>
> > icon for Fox Sports Radio. Check your facts.....
>
> There is. I've seen it. Though wouldn't it be a bad thing to
> see FSR actually get a REAL website up and running, no?
>
> > In addition, FSR just added WEOL-AM 930 in Elyria, OH. FSR
>
> > has been adding stations every week, including bouncing
> > Sporting News off of Lancaster (PA), Knoxville, Madison,
> > Pocatello, and Sacramento.
>
> Here's the difference between the two new FSR affils in
> Cleveland, WEOL and WJMP in Kent:
>
> WEOL signed up with FSR on a part-time basis - evenings 6-10
> (usually preempted by gobs of sports PBP anyway) and for a
> decent part of the weekends. That's because AP All News
> Radio - which aired at those times anyway, went buh-bye on
> Friday. They had to find something.
>
> That's unlike WJMP, which is all FSR, sunrise to sunset -
> with the bigger "name personalities" in Czabe, Van Hurl and
> Chris Myers (plus Premiere's Romey). WEOL will only air one
> hour of Myers.
>
> Oh, and a bit of irony: when WEOL first flipped to N/T back
> in '97, they carried SNR's predecessor, One-on-One for
> several years...
>
> > By the way, we have been hearing the Kiley & Booms/Bruno
> > rumors for months. Here we are on July 18. Where is the
> > official announcement? If they had such big plans to
> > "re-launch" the network, why are they keeping it a secret?
>
>
> I'd follow the old line of, "I'd tell you, but I'd have to
> kill you..." ;)
>
> - nate81
>
Hey Nate,

If Chuck Booms was about to go on the air on Sporting News, why didn't WEOL-AM 930 sign with SRN? It was well known that WEOL needed programming, and SNR made a pitch.

How can you explain several SNR affiliates recently jumping ship to Fox, while SNR has not taken a Fox affiliate since at least January 2004? WKNR will never dump ESPN, and there is no one else in the Cleveland market that is poised to go all sports. WEOL would have been a great local affiliate for Booms, but they still decided to go for Foax. Why?
 
> Here's the possibilities I see for Fox Sports Radio's
> future: 1. FSR and SNR merge and the network keeps the
> Sporting News name, 2. Sporting News Radio buys FSR and
> operates both networks much like what happened with the
> Prime Network and Sportschannel cable networks in the
> mid-1990's, 3. Premiere Radio Networks lets their FSR naming
> rights contract run it's course and SNR buys FSR, 4.
> Sporting News Radio buys FSR outright and folds Fox Sports
> Radio, or 5. Fox Sports Radio folds on it's own and just has
> Premiere syndicate all the current FSR shows to whatever
> stations they want.
>


Fox Sports Radio only survives because Cheap Channel has too many crappy little am's and no programming. In the bigger markets, they only get spotty clearance late at night and claim those as "affiliations". Clear Channel will probably stop paying Fox for the brand name once the current deal runs out and they'll have nothing to allegedly use as a "brand". They've lost just about all of the major markets since Bruno left and will really get smacked in the face once SNR starts syndicating Bruno. FSR has lost over 50 affiliates and added no-one of significance. They are using b-s and smoke and mirros to compile just numbers of affiliates, no major clearances. SNR does the same..but they haven't had a solid line-up in a while. Guys like Rick Ballou and Rickard are dime-a-dozen marginal talents who will wind up in some medium local market. If Chuck Wilson can't find work after 13 years at ESPN radio, no one will be clamoring for any of the deposed SNR guys.
 
True, True, but I do wonder what's going to happen to Fox Sports 850 here in Tacoma, Washington and all of the medium size market affiliates of FSR when Premiere's current deal runs out. To tell you the truth I think everybody here in the puget sound is happy with 850 partly because if they had another format the Tacoma Rainiers games and Washington State Football and Basketball probably would have to move to another station, however the only other am station in Tacoma that's not spanish language programmed is KLAY 1180 in Lakewood and they had the Tacoma Rainiers once but I don't think the Rainiers would want to move back to 1180. As for WSU's play-by-play, they already have KPTK 1090 who's signal reaches Tacoma pretty well so if 850 flipped from sports I don't think WSU sports would need a station in Tacoma for their games.
 
> [...] To tell you the truth I think everybody here in
> the puget sound is happy with 850 partly because if they had
> another format the Tacoma Rainiers games and Washington
> State Football and Basketball probably would have to move to
> another station [...]

Don't worry. Here's a deep, dark secret: sports PBP is $$$ in the bank. Heck, a station could program Gregorian chants all week long, then carry college football on a Saturday - if the money's there.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Fox Sports 850 a Salem station LMA'ed to CC as a complement to KJR? I'm sure if FSR tanks, CC would find something for these AMs. Most likely a format like "Real Oldies" or lib/prog talk. Or Salem could take back 850 for whatever they want. But they could keep the PBP for the weekends...

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partership Representative
Student Senate
Lorain County Community College, Elyria, Ohio

LCCC Radio - The Duck</P>
 
> In addition, FSR just added WEOL-AM 930 in Elyria, OH. FSR
> has been adding stations every week, including bouncing
> Sporting News off of Lancaster (PA), Knoxville, Madison,
> Pocatello, and Sacramento. Where has Sporting News bounced
> Fox in the last two years? You cannot name one station. When
> is the last time Sporting News signed a major affiliate?

I'm sure as you sit in the 5th floor at Premiere you can successfully brain wash your staff into believing everything will be fine. The fact is, radio changes very quickly and FSR has no long term plans to recover from the disaster of the last year. While Ashwood is busy spending money on their lame cell phone polls, Sporting News is laying the proper groundwork to anihilate Fox.

1. The affiliates have no loyalty to the so called FOX brand. Of course affiliates have gone with Fox for the last two years. Fox has had the better product.

2. No reasonable programmer gives away their plans to conquer. Why would Sporting News officially reveal their gameplan? The more Fox knows, the better their chances of creating a strategic counter attack.

3. The affiliate fat-ass (Krainmar?)for Fox used to work for Sporting News. He left SNR when they were a sinking ship. He can tell affiliates that SNR is done and that all the rumors of Bruno and Kiley and Booms are false. Actually, I hope that's his method.
 
I've checked on this and I am fairly certain Clear Channel owns Fox Sports Radio 850 outright. As for what format 850 will go to if FSR tanks, I don't think it's going to be liberal/progressive talk because in the Seattle/Tacoma market we already have KVI 570 which is a Fox News and Talk affiliate, KTTH 770 which is "The Truth", KPTK 1090 which is Air America Radio and KKOL 1300 which airs various shows. I think if FSR tanks 850 is going to return to a News/Talk/Sports format retaining Jim Rome and the play by play programming they carry. As for the Real Oldies format, that's probably not going to happen.
 
> I've checked on this and I am fairly certain Clear Channel
> owns Fox Sports Radio 850 outright. As for what format 850
> will go to if FSR tanks, I don't think it's going to be
> liberal/progressive talk because in the Seattle/Tacoma
> market we already have KVI 570 which is a Fox News and Talk
> affiliate, KTTH 770 which is "The Truth", KPTK 1090 which is
> Air America Radio and KKOL 1300 which airs various shows. I
> think if FSR tanks 850 is going to return to a
> News/Talk/Sports format retaining Jim Rome and the play by
> play programming they carry. As for the Real Oldies format,
> that's probably not going to happen.
>
CC is blowing up Real Oldies Faster than FSR was Changing its lineup for a while i believe there is only one Real Oldies Station left in the CC Family and thats in CHicago
 
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