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Fox Vs. Cablevision

DToTheJ

DToTheJ

After getting into skirmishes earlier this year with Scripps (operator of HGTV and Food Network) and ABC/Disney, Cablevision is looking to duke it out with a third broadcasting entity this year: Fox.

Fox has relaunched its http://www.keepfoxon.com website which was last active during their dispute with Time Warner Cable late last year, and is informing viewers that some stations, including both WNYW and WWOR in New York and WTXF in Philadelphia, as well as cable networks such as Fox Business, could be taken off of Cablevision's lineups if an agreement is not reached by October 15.

Coincidentally, Fox's coverage of this year's NLCS starts on October 16.

More info:
http://www.multichannel.com/article/457414-Fox_Cablevision_Prepare_For_Battle.php
 
TAKE 'EM OFF. All this negotiating just makes the cable bills go up and up and up.
Why don't they take off the 20 least popular channels and give everybody a $20
credit on their bills! No way, that would be too 2025.
 
gregg75 said:
TAKE 'EM OFF. All this negotiating just makes the cable bills go up and up and up.
Why don't they take off the 20 least popular channels and give everybody a $20
credit on their bills! No way, that would be too 2025.
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Wouldn't bother me at all. Most of my viewing these days is basic cable and premium cable. In my opinion, basic cable networks (AMC, FX, etc) are creating all the good dramatic series these days - they're even starting to make premium cable (HBO, Showtime) look weak. And if you just want escapist potboilers, USA and TNT are producing series that equal the "Big 4" networks.

If my cable company took off the Big 4 networks, it would probably only impact about 2 hours of my viewing every week. I could cope...and if there's some show I found that I really missed, I'd wait until next year and rent it from Netflix...or stream it.
 
gregg75 said:
TAKE 'EM OFF. All this negotiating just makes the cable bills go up and up and up.
Why don't they take off the 20 least popular channels and give everybody a $20
credit on their bills! No way, that would be too 2025.
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The problem is, taking the 20 least popular channels off would not save the company $20 per subscriber. The bottom 20 are likely getting carried via barter, for pennies, or even for pay (shop at home channels, religious broadcasters). If they removed JUST ESPN we all would save $2 a month or more. Problem is, that's the one channel that isn't going anywhere, as live sports is currently the biggest reason cited for keeping cable vs cutting it.
 
DToTheJ said:
Fox ... is informing viewers that some stations, including both WNYW and WWOR in New York and WTXF in Philadelphia, as well as cable networks such as Fox Business, could be taken off of Cablevision's lineups if an agreement is not reached by October 15.

Coincidentally, Fox's coverage of this year's NLCS starts on October 16.
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Why is it that the contract deadlines always coincide with key events? Last month, the contract tie-up between TWC and Disney was around the start of the football season, as well as the final "Camp Rock" movie on The Disney Channel. And Fox and TWC sparred last year, when a contract dispute threatened the college bowl games.

Do the media companies really want its viewers to get riled up?
 
Negotiate away, Cablevision...WWOR and WNYW come in fine over the air - in fact, better than they ever did in analog - where I am in central NJ.
 
azumanga said:
Why is it that the contract deadlines always coincide with key events? Last month, the contract tie-up between TWC and Disney was around the start of the football season, as well as the final "Camp Rock" movie on The Disney Channel. And Fox and TWC sparred last year, when a contract dispute threatened the college bowl games...
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And let's not forget the day that WABC (and WPVI/Philadelphia in some areas) went dark on Cablevision lineups for most of the day - it was a day when something called the Academy Awards was scheduled for that evening...
 
azumanga said:
DToTheJ said:
Fox ... is informing viewers that some stations, including both WNYW and WWOR in New York and WTXF in Philadelphia, as well as cable networks such as Fox Business, could be taken off of Cablevision's lineups if an agreement is not reached by October 15.

Coincidentally, Fox's coverage of this year's NLCS starts on October 16.
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Why is it that the contract deadlines always coincide with key events? Last month, the contract tie-up between TWC and Disney was around the start of the football season, as well as the final "Camp Rock" movie on The Disney Channel. And Fox and TWC sparred last year, when a contract dispute threatened the college bowl games.

Do the media companies really want its viewers to get riled up?
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Yes. I'm sure they write these agreements with those dates in mind, simply to get viewers riled up. They'll push to get subs to cancel, so they can bully the cable companies with it.
 
mnradiofan said:
gregg75 said:
Why don't they take off the 20 least popular channels and give everybody a $20 credit on their bills...
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If they removed JUST ESPN we all would save $2 a month or more. Problem is, that's the one channel that isn't going anywhere, as live sports is currently the biggest reason cited for keeping cable vs cutting it.
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And incidentally, ESPN seems to be where all of the major sporting events (expect the Super Bowl... for now, at least) are headed. Let's not forget the Turner cable networks getting a cut of March Madness coverage starting next year.
 
why is it new york cable companies are the ones having troubles making agreements, i never hear comcrap up here in mass fighting about keeping channels?? maybe im wrong!
 
Between what happened with Food Network/HGTV at the beginning of the year and WABC in March I wouldn't be surprised if they were pulled off the air for a bit.

Also, I know people at Cablevision claim to "fight price increases" for the consumer, but don't Cablevision customers pay some of the highest rates in the country? One time I saw a price comparison between Time Warner in Manhattan or Queens and Cablevision on Long Island and Time Warner cost less. The fact that now everyone has to have a digital cable box now for Cablevision doesn't help either, even though that seems to be the trend among all of cable.

That said, between the egos of the Dolans and Murdoch this could be the ugliest retransmission fight yet.
 
On Thursday, Cablevision had requested binding arbitration with Fox:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/458445-Cablevision_Asks_for_Binding_Arbitration.php

And later that day, Fox rejected the arbitration offer, as Newsday reports - Cablevision-owned Newsday, I should say:
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/fox-rejects-arbitration-with-cablevision-1.2360646?qr=1

Well, it's October 15th, and I have not been a Cablevision subscriber for about a month, so I couldn't tell you what's going on. Can anyone else provide some details? Are Fox stations pulled?
 
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