Fred Flintstone? or a cunning delusion.

[qtpieislit]

Oh, Fred Flintstone, because you say it its so, then therefore it is, or does that characterize yourself as living in the Stone Age as the seemingly and perennial know it all Mr. Radio himself? Well, we bow to you. Therefore, since all posts should begin and end with you, I presume we all yield to you, your preeminence. Especially your own entertaining mild delusional agitation you exibit, when reading other posts. Now, take a short deep breath.

 

[fred flintstone]

In case you're wondering...

What Sam Lit is talking about, here is what Sam posted in the WIBG Radio99 - 40th Anniversary Lineup" thread:

*1060/WRCV was NBC owned and operated, and therefore carried the ‘NBC Red Network’ with local cut-ins, similar to what network morning news shows resemble today. Most daytime programming was news, issue or feature oriented. The two music shows Hy hosted were part of only a hand full of long form programming segments that originated from Philadelphia that otherwise was not covered by the network. ‘Sinatra & Friends’ was heard on the Red Network in selected NBC radio markets as the local news segments concluded. Whereby the network affiliate would announce: "We take you now to Philadelphia for Sinatra & friends, with your host, Johnny dollar".

Here was my reply, to which he apparently took offense:

WRCV was part of the "NBC Radio Network" - not the NBC Red Network.
The terms "Red Network" and "Blue Network" indicated station line-ups on NBC rate cards and were used in trade advertising. They were not public brands and the terms were not used on the air until 1941 when NBC spun off "Blue" operations prior to divesting itself of the network under government order. At that point and for two years after the divestiture, the network called itself "The Blue Network" until Lifesaver King Ed Nobel, who had purchased The Blue Network, acquired the rights to the name "American Broadcasting Company" from George B. Storer. "NBC Red Network" was never used on the air and NBC continued the network cue it had used on both networks, "This is NBC, the National Broadcasting Company. (chimes)" This continued until around 1950 when the cue became, "This is the NBC Radio Network. (chimes)"
At the time of the diverstiture, KYW was (and had been) a Westinghouse station. The WRCV calls, which operated from 1955 to 1965, were in use here long after NBC ceased dual network operations.
By the time NBC took over 1060 AM, network operations had been scaled back and during the week much of the schedule was local. NBC Radio aired "Monitor" on weekends (a for a time in the late 50s on weeknights, as well). NBC Radio still carried some daytime soap operas and talk-variety programming until 1957. It had phased out most network evening sitcoms, dramas and variety shows at this point. NBC Radio did not begin weekday News on the Hour until 1957 (Monitor had News on the Hour from the beginning). NBC Radio did not broadcast network programs during morning drive (except for the 10-15 minute NBC World News Round-up) even during radio's Golden Age. Morning drive was always local time. By the late 50's, WRCV had adopted a big band format (which bombed).
Further, "Johnny Dollar" was the name of the lead character on a well-known CBS mystery drama ("Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar") which ran from 1949 until 1962 (one of the last two Golden Age radio dramas in production).
Sam, your posts are interesting but not always accurate. What you post is at best hearsay and sometimes appears to be guesswork. You weren't there; your old man was. You really need to check your facts.

 

[odomski]

Fred/Mike provided information that you seemed to have missed. You aren't the only one here that is an informant on the history of Philadelphia radio. You aren't God. Get over it.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

Check out my post on the thread about WIBG 40th anniversary heh heh

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,40708.msg277737.html#new

 

[qtpieislit]

Re: Fred Flintstone? or what?

It appears it will be necessary to clarify the distortion.
Hy, in fact, did a show called 'Sinatra & Friends' under the name Johnny dollar on WRCV, evenings/daily, as directed by NBC programming and management at the time. He then returned to the air each night at 10:30, for the ‘Rock & roll kingdom’ as Hy Lit. That comes from the man himself. Further, I never said that WRCV identified itself as the NBC red network on the air. I attempted to assimilate an historical retrospective of the evolution of early rock & roll radio on the WIBG thread, as related to Hy. My references are not internet searches, but the actually accounting of the events as compiled from the individuals I am fortunately privileged to be surrounded by. And I do mean Plural. And that is a piece of history itself. (To be continued).