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Free Fm/Wmmr

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Dwightfrye

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With the future of Free Fm being somewhat cloudy...meaning will they go all talk or keep the music...although, going talk seems to be more likely. Should MMR start recruiting some of the 94 jocks?
 
YES

They should definitely grab Matt and Huggy, Tommy Conwell, Frank Lario and Rich Desisto, everyone else deserves to be on that sinking ship. I know Frank was on MMR a few years ago and was delt a low blow and shafted to bring on Dee, who flopped miserably, would he want to go back, who knows. I really do not want to see this talent go to MMR, but right now they are the only half-A'd game in town. Maybe new blood would bring the station around. And you know who should be the first to go at MMR....
 
> With the future of Free Fm being somewhat cloudy...meaning
> will they go all talk or keep the music...although, going
> talk seems to be more likely. Should MMR start recruiting
> some of the 94 jocks?

Probably not. MMR has no room for them. If they wanted to replace the highly rated "relic" they would have done so already - he makes a ton of money, and apparently MMR thinks he's worth it. Management seems to be very high on Jaxon, Weston recruited him and has worked with him in the past. They just brought back Matt Cord. I can't see any of the YSP jocks wanting Randy Kotz overnight spot. Kotz would be an asset to MGK, when he plays his "two from the Stones" he makes you excited to listen, but when he says coming up next, "Seether", he just doesn't quite give off the same enthusiasm.

Couzin Ed has been on DRE, Y and YSP, his next move would probably be out of town or he would start being compared to Barsky (although Ed did a great job filling in for Barsky, and if FREE YSP stays talk, he may still fit in there. The only difference between Dee Snider and Tommy Conwell is that Dee Snider still has songs that get airplay. Matt & Huggy would not work on MMR, thats not their type of music. They thrive on the newer stuff.

If FREE FM continues FREEfalling, they may dump the talk altogether and go back to rock. It would be nice to have a choice again (other than satellite).
 
Bring the station around?

I'm no insider; I'm just a listener. To these ears, MMR sounds energized (probably because they are the only gig in town). P&S are doing well, listener input events are increasing ("Extreme Takeover" is going to be a weekly feature now), and their huge events (MMR Spring Break is coming up soon) give them quite a presence and identity in Philadelphia. "Bring the station around" to what? What are they lacking?

Who are they going to bring over? It's nice to have Philly rock royalty on the airwaves, but I don't want to sit through Tommy Conwell's half-hearted "chicken grunge" show. He'd better leave that in the trash. When I think of Matt & Huggy, I think of frat-boys grunting and screaming.

By the way, I'm just curious, KlassikKountry. You use the phrase "chicken rock" quite often, usually in reference to MMR. How do you define "chicken rock?" When I hear the term, I think of my sophomore year college roommate who listened to nothing but Aerosmith, GnR, REO Speedwagon, Whitesnake, Jimmy Buffett, and Steppenwolf (he's the only man I've ever met that owned a Steppenwolf album).

*shudders* I'm still sick of Jimmy Buffett thanks to that kid. Nice guy, but golly gee...now I've got Last Mango In Paris stuck in my head...and it's combining with Joni in my head. "Last mango in Paris, I felt unfettered and alive..."
> They should definitely grab Matt and Huggy, Tommy Conwell,
> Frank Lario and Rich Desisto, everyone else deserves to be
> on that sinking ship. I know Frank was on MMR a few years
> ago and was delt a low blow and shafted to bring on Dee, who
> flopped miserably, would he want to go back, who knows. I
> really do not want to see this talent go to MMR, but right
> now they are the only half-A'd game in town. Maybe new
> blood would bring the station around. And you know who
> should be the first to go at MMR....
>
 
Chicken Rock

CR can be classified as the safe non abrasive familiar - Billy Joel, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, Buffett, Boston, Genisis, G-Dead, Queen, Bowie, Heart, you can find it on MGK, RDX, THK, 107.5, 99.9, 103.7. The harder edged Classic Rock that Rocks would be Priest, Ozzy, Whitesnake, GnR, Motorhead, Lita Ford, Plasmatics, this is hard to find on todays dial. There was a station in Baltimore on 104.3 that had this format a few years back. There are hundreds and hundreds of artists to fit both types of Classic Rock but I just gave you some idea. Most so-called Classic Rockers play the Chicken Rock, MMR is not Chicken Classic Rock they do get heavy at times. In fact I found myself listening to them today, Matt, Jaxon and Randy, the March battles are good and they are adding many hard rock and Alternative cuts, the relic was not on so it was easy on the ears, I just cannot listen to his constant jargon. Its a shame the state of YSP has me going to MMR, many other people are jumping ship, bad move on YSP's part, now I only listen when M&H are on.
 
Re: Chicken Rock

Thanks for the definition. I think I see where you're coming from. I just hope that by Genesis you mean 80's Genesis. I'd hardly call their prog stuff "chicken." ;-)

Lita Ford on the radio would definitely make my day. I find myself singing that hit of hers randomly from time to time. I don't remember the title, but you know the one: "Went to a party last Saturday night, didn't get laid, got in a fight" and so on. Did that at church during Vacation Bible School once, barely even thinking about it...I got a really weird look.

Gotta feel bad for Billy Joel, man. I remember reading an article where he was lamenting his position of being stuck between Lite FM and classic rock. I guess he wishes people took him more seriously. That's what happens when you're so good and tuneful. People don't take you seriously; they take you for granted.

I'm launching into a huge rambly music type post. I'll stop here. :)

Again, thanks for the clarification.

> CR can be classified as the safe non abrasive familiar -
> Billy Joel, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, Buffett, Boston,
> Genisis, G-Dead, Queen, Bowie, Heart, you can find it on
> MGK, RDX, THK, 107.5, 99.9, 103.7. The harder edged
> Classic Rock that Rocks would be Priest, Ozzy, Whitesnake,
> GnR, Motorhead, Lita Ford, Plasmatics, this is hard to find
> on todays dial. There was a station in Baltimore on 104.3
> that had this format a few years back. There are hundreds
> and hundreds of artists to fit both types of Classic Rock
> but I just gave you some idea. Most so-called Classic
> Rockers play the Chicken Rock, MMR is not Chicken Classic
> Rock they do get heavy at times. In fact I found myself
> listening to them today, Matt, Jaxon and Randy, the March
> battles are good and they are adding many hard rock and
> Alternative cuts, the relic was not on so it was easy on the
> ears, I just cannot listen to his constant jargon. Its a
> shame the state of YSP has me going to MMR, many other
> people are jumping ship, bad move on YSP's part, now I only
> listen when M&H are on.
>
 
Lita

Kiss Me Deadly 1988, top 12 hit, funny thing, she was born in London to Italian parents, I think her first name is Carmelito. Sorry, but that was the group I meant, with Phil, Tony and Mike, at least they were the three left after Peter and the others split. They kinda seem like a non-Rock act, very commercial. Even though Billy is considered this and that, I think he is the greatest, so much better than Elton on the ivories and vocals. I just wish somebody with guts could put together a Hard Classic Rocker like 104.3 in Baltimore, if anyone has any info on the old 104.3's playlist, etc., speak up.
 
Re: Lita

> Kiss Me Deadly 1988, top 12 hit, funny thing, she was born
> in London to Italian parents, I think her first name is
> Carmelito. Sorry, but that was the group I meant, with
> Phil, Tony and Mike, at least they were the three left after
> Peter and the others split. They kinda seem like a non-Rock
> act, very commercial. Even though Billy is considered this
> and that, I think he is the greatest, so much better than
> Elton on the ivories and vocals. I just wish somebody with
> guts could put together a Hard Classic Rocker like 104.3 in
> Baltimore, if anyone has any info on the old 104.3's
> playlist, etc., speak up.
>
Lita Ford was on one of those VH-1 History of Metal type shows a couple of years back. They repeat them sometimes on VH 1 Classic. At the time she was living at a house on the beach in California and she proudly announced that she was waiting for the next big wave of rock to come back, and that she was going to come back with it. She went on to say that she was not ready for retirement or making babies. It turns out she was 3 weeks pregnant when she made the statement.

I heard this fact one night while listening to Dee Snider's short lived show. It's about the only memorable thing I remember from his show. A ton of Philly stations played Kiss Me Deadly when it came out, Lita did have a couple more radio hits across the country afterwards, but I don't recall any Philly area stations playing them. (Except the duet with Ozzy) Baltimore's 98 rock used to go much deeper into the rock albums at that time than any of our stations did.
 
I remember well...

WOCT in Baltimore..

It was a niche formatted station...it's best books were the first two or three and then it failed miserably because after the newness of the 'Oh wow...Vandenberg's Burning Heart' wore off, no one gave a rat's a$$.

WRDX in Wilmington was an exact copycat of WOCT for two years...I know, because when 'RDX was pondering the flip from Mainstream Rock to Classic, the playlists that were researched were WOCT's..the benefits of having the same owners.

That was 2000. Fast forward to 2006...

WOCT: Smooth Jazz
WRDX: Who the hell knows...or cares.

Classic rock that rocks was a quick burning format. Nowadays, most classic rockers have adapted to some sort of middle ground, where they can sprinkle in the Whitesnakes, GNR's, Def Leppard's and whatnot, while still holding on to the standard Zeppelin's, Stones and everything else...

But the chances of those kinds of changes happennning around here? Yet to be determined.
 
Classic Rock....stale cracker

I Hate the mere notion of yet another classic rock station. Largely due in part to the fact that not one of them goes past the same worn out 3 or 4 songs that the stones, or ZEP or bob seeger or Lynyrd Skynyrd are known for. and they quickly sound tired and boring because since they lack deep cuts, they repete too fast. the radio dial is better off with however many classic rockers currently exist, but soon they will become moldy and hopefully someone will either kill them off or make the playlists go deeper. Balls to Classic Rock stations.

> WOCT in Baltimore..
>
> It was a niche formatted station...it's best books were the
> first two or three and then it failed miserably because
> after the newness of the 'Oh wow...Vandenberg's Burning
> Heart' wore off, no one gave a rat's a$$.
>
> WRDX in Wilmington was an exact copycat of WOCT for two
> years...I know, because when 'RDX was pondering the flip
> from Mainstream Rock to Classic, the playlists that were
> researched were WOCT's..the benefits of having the same
> owners.
>
> That was 2000. Fast forward to 2006...
>
> WOCT: Smooth Jazz
> WRDX: Who the hell knows...or cares.
>
> Classic rock that rocks was a quick burning format.
> Nowadays, most classic rockers have adapted to some sort of
> middle ground, where they can sprinkle in the Whitesnakes,
> GNR's, Def Leppard's and whatnot, while still holding on to
> the standard Zeppelin's, Stones and everything else...
>
> But the chances of those kinds of changes happennning around
> here? Yet to be determined.
>
 
Re: Classic Rock....stale cracker

You know, I always wondered: why don't classic rock stations play any prog? I never hear any Genesis on classic rock stations (and "Owner of a Lonely Heart" by Yes doesn't count as prog...neither does 80's Genesis). MMR will play "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" from time to time...does MGK?


> I Hate the mere notion of yet another classic rock station.
> Largely due in part to the fact that not one of them goes
> past the same worn out 3 or 4 songs that the stones, or ZEP
> or bob seeger or Lynyrd Skynyrd are known for. and they
> quickly sound tired and boring because since they lack deep
> cuts, they repete too fast. the radio dial is better off
> with however many classic rockers currently exist, but soon
> they will become moldy and hopefully someone will either
> kill them off or make the playlists go deeper. Balls to
> Classic Rock stations.
>
> > WOCT in Baltimore..
> >
> > It was a niche formatted station...it's best books were
> the
> > first two or three and then it failed miserably because
> > after the newness of the 'Oh wow...Vandenberg's Burning
> > Heart' wore off, no one gave a rat's a$$.
> >
> > WRDX in Wilmington was an exact copycat of WOCT for two
> > years...I know, because when 'RDX was pondering the flip
> > from Mainstream Rock to Classic, the playlists that were
> > researched were WOCT's..the benefits of having the same
> > owners.
> >
> > That was 2000. Fast forward to 2006...
> >
> > WOCT: Smooth Jazz
> > WRDX: Who the hell knows...or cares.
> >
> > Classic rock that rocks was a quick burning format.
> > Nowadays, most classic rockers have adapted to some sort
> of
> > middle ground, where they can sprinkle in the Whitesnakes,
>
> > GNR's, Def Leppard's and whatnot, while still holding on
> to
> > the standard Zeppelin's, Stones and everything else...
> >
> > But the chances of those kinds of changes happennning
> around
> > here? Yet to be determined.
> >
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by pianorox on 03/12/06 10:39 PM.</FONT></P>
 
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