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Freestyle is alive!

nd2023

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Yesterday night as I was stuck on the Belt Parkway, I tuned in to 90.3 WKRB and heard a freestyle specialty show. As it took me over an hour to go 5 miles, I got to enjoy the station for a long time. And I loved hearing the "sound" of freestyle and instantly loved songs I had never heard before, which is pretty rare for me. When the highway cleared up, I was actually wishing I were stuck in traffic longer because I drove out of range of WKRB.
Last summer I went to Party 105's Freestyle Extravaganza and was amazed at the fact that there were over 10000 people there. It seems like freestyle just refuses to die.
Why is there so much opposition to freestyle these days? Keep in mind that I was a baby during freestyle's popularity, and I was never exposed to it until I started listening to KTU in the early 2000s.
 
There's no opposition with freestyle at all. In FACT, the recent Freestyle & Old School Extravaganza at Radio City Music Hall had both shows sold out! Being that I was your age during the peak of freestyle Nick, let me explain some things. Morpheux, please chime in if I'm missing anything. :)

Back in the mid 80's to the early 90's freestyle (aka: Latin Hip-Hop) was huge. At the time there were also many Top 40/Urban stations playing it (Hot 103/97 New York, Power 96 Miami, Q-102 Philadelphia, Boss 97 Atlantic City). Most of those acts were able to cross over into the pop side (Stevie B, Expose, Lisa Lisa). Record labels were cranking the music out left and right. But in the early 90's 2 things had happened.

1) Production - In the beginnings, the labels did put out quality stuff and radio was on it. But along the way it seemed as if production in terms of the sound, artists, etc. had dropped off. All of a sudden a lot of records that should have NEVER been made were pushed out there and that helped kill things.

2) Radio - The stations that were dance were bailing out of the format in the early 90's most going for that next big money maker...hip-hop. Hot 97 in NY did that, Power 106 in L.A. did that. Even smaller markets such as Providence, RI which had a dance station out of Kix 106 bailed out. Other stations such as Q-102 in Philly went CHR.

In the mid 90's when 'KTU came back on 103.5, there was a small resurgence of the music with artists such as Rockell, Lina Santiago, Jocelyn Enriquez, etc but it was nowhere NEAR the explosion of the peak. And many people around my age never forgot. They still swear to it.

IMHO, I do believe some people in the music industry think of freestyle as a "joke". NO ONE dares mention it at music conventions such as the WMC. There also has been a lot of "drama" within that certainly hasn't helped the cause for freestyle over the past few years. Yet fans who grew up with the music never forgot and treasure artists such as Judy Torres, George Lamond, Coro, Cynthia, etc as "family". And I think the younger generation who weren't born during this time are discovering it but in some ways still think of this as their "parents/grandparents" music.

I think there can be TWO audiences in that sense. Those who support the classics will ALWAYS do so. And so as they should. But I think if anything can evolve for the next generation, it has to be a new sound, new young teen/twenty something artists and the name "freestyle" should be dropped entirely. Call it whatever (my coined term is "FreeDM") but make it something that can relate to today's youth as it was back in the 80's/90's when I was in my late teens/twenty something point in my life. :)

I can go ON and ON and ON with this, I'll never tire talking about it. But for the sake of folks that may complain that this thread is too long, I'll hold off.

But in general.....I think freestyle may be coming back STRONGER in terms of the classics. Which could be a good thing if somehow taking that element can evolve into a new sound for the millenial generation.
 
The sounds doesnt fit the format anymore. Avicci and Stevie B are on two completely different levels. KTU can handle it because of their demo.
 
Dancerev889 said:
The sounds doesnt fit the format anymore. Avicci and Stevie B are on two completely different levels. KTU can handle it because of their demo.

And this is where I was going......

A station like a 'KTU CAN do the classics, agreed, especially in New York since the older demos (aka: people my age) have kept it close.

But, in terms of a new sound, FORGET TERRESTRIAL and I've been telling the freestyle community that for a long time. If any new sound gets heard, listen to online stations such as WEPA-FM, Legends Of Freestyle (LOF), Niteline Radio, etc. They would have more of a vested interest to give that a try versus FM radio which will still hold on to the demos with the classics. It's also a matter of the fans of freestyle to understand the future is in that direction. People still have that hope, in NYC, that 'KTU would do something new and they're not.

And another thing.....a new sound can't be new people doing material that's "dated". That's fine for the classic fans to listen to something new that has that 80's freestyle sound, but that's not necessarily going to work for the youth.
 
It's funny that I'm just reading this after my response earlier today in the NY board. The future of FM is classic music/throwbacks. FM will have to reinvent itself sooner than we think.It's not necessarily a bad thing. Btw there has always been opposition to Freestyle on a national level. It just didn't fit into the black/white music dichotomy at the time. And for the most part, Latino artists still have a way to go.
 
Morpheux said:
The future of FM is classic music/throwbacks.

It would have to be. It's only going to be those 40 and up that will still listen to FM for music because we grew up with that thinking. ALSO, this if off subject, but you see it with sports going on the FM dial. That's the future too. AM will just be a dumping ground until the FCC finally decides to dump that whole band spectrum.
 
The young demo will come back if you cater to them. Unfortunately, a lot of stations are not tuned into the younger demo. We have been seeing a drop in the average age of our listeners due to more aggressive EDM songs we Re playing. Our targeting has been paying off as we continue to get involved in the high schools. The top 40 stations used to be very interactive with the local high schools, djing dances, hosting concerts at the schools. Fun y how those things still work
 
Nick said:
Yesterday night as I was stuck on the Belt Parkway, I tuned in to 90.3 WKRB and heard a freestyle specialty show. As it took me over an hour to go 5 miles, I got to enjoy the station for a long time. And I loved hearing the "sound" of freestyle and instantly loved songs I had never heard before, which is pretty rare for me. When the highway cleared up, I was actually wishing I were stuck in traffic longer because I drove out of range of WKRB.
Last summer I went to Party 105's Freestyle Extravaganza and was amazed at the fact that there were over 10000 people there. It seems like freestyle just refuses to die.
Why is there so much opposition to freestyle these days? Keep in mind that I was a baby during freestyle's popularity, and I was never exposed to it until I started listening to KTU in the early 2000s.

The Beat-SA has a Freestyle show every Sunday evening at 6p. Rated the #1 for that time slot.
 
DJ_Perry said:
Wildstyle Kdm said:
I don't know but my reason is that they can't sing. Some can't even produce, lol.

^^ The Last person I would expect to read that comment from...perhaps I finally opened up his eyes!

Would that be the same person that has hundreds if not thousands on his freestyle mixes?Not too mention all the freestyle groups he was in ::)
 
saradio1 said:
Nick said:
Yesterday night as I was stuck on the Belt Parkway, I tuned in to 90.3 WKRB and heard a freestyle specialty show. As it took me over an hour to go 5 miles, I got to enjoy the station for a long time. And I loved hearing the "sound" of freestyle and instantly loved songs I had never heard before, which is pretty rare for me. When the highway cleared up, I was actually wishing I were stuck in traffic longer because I drove out of range of WKRB.
Last summer I went to Party 105's Freestyle Extravaganza and was amazed at the fact that there were over 10000 people there. It seems like freestyle just refuses to die.
Why is there so much opposition to freestyle these days? Keep in mind that I was a baby during freestyle's popularity, and I was never exposed to it until I started listening to KTU in the early 2000s.

The Beat-SA has a Freestyle show every Sunday evening at 6p. Rated the #1 for that time slot.

Forgot to mention, every Friday morning @ 7:20, The Beat SA has their booty bounce mix which includes Freestyle.

www.thebeatsa.com
 
IMO freestyle died because the classics were always given love... The next generation was ignored on the radio( except us at 91.5 WDBK .. Bret agree?) ... Tazmania put out a few songs that could have been hits... They had a couple of core artist that could have been huge( Pure Pleasure, Sammantha,Joe Zangi) . Promoters would do shows.. Pay TKA or Stevie B great money and want the new artists to do it for free... The genre " died". When I was pd at 91.5 WDBK in the mid 90s 14-30yr females were dying to hear freestyle or any dance music for that matter.. If a label( an established label) would have given freestyle a chance it may have had a way longer shelf life.
 
Joe Zangie definitely has the talent. There are a few current things that could make it if given a chance. But then again, even some of the established pop artists of today are having some of their more quality underground tracks ignored so I'm not even sure if the more underground freestyle acts have a chance.

Best bet is for a current or new pop focused artist to use a breakbeat instead of a house beat and have that song become a hit, similar to what Fareast Movement did. Artists like Ne-yo, Rihanna, or Chris Brown could pull it off. Another thing producers could do is have a dubstep breakdown in the middle of a modern sounding freestyle production. I did receive a track somewhat like that in the mail but the vocals are questionable. I'll give it a few more listens.
 
Morpheux said:
Joe Zangie??? LMAO

I said the same thing (who?). The production of this music is not up to par. Its like wishing New Wave would come back. It was great in the 80s, and there are plenty of influences in todays music, but the Genre will always be in the past. Its funny how these 1 Hit wonders can continue to tour together at these annual old school reunions! No band, just a singer trying to dance and sing over the same exact instrumental that has been played to death over the years (not to mention 30 years and pounds added to the picture on the flyer)
 
Don't crack on Joe. If he did not get in a car accident years ago he would have signed with a major label. He was on tour with the backstreet boys singing with Rockell. He has been pulling himself away from freestyle and us working with a pretty well known producer right now. He still has a great following in Philly. Plus he can sing
 
Dancerev889 said:
Don't crack on Joe. If he did not get in a car accident years ago he would have signed with a major label. He was on tour with the backstreet boys singing with Rockell. He has been pulling himself away from freestyle and us working with a pretty well known producer right now. He still has a great following in Philly. Plus he can sing

He is a nice guy but just another average singer from the 90's freestyle scene.He sings Collage's part when he is on stage with Rockell.
 
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