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A classic country station AM or FM should include songs from Bob Wills , Hank snow and the artists that made country music Great

The appeal of that would be to people in their 70's and beyond. There is no revenue, even in local markets, for that approach.
 
Come to think of it, illegal aliens (mostly farm workers) would listen to Spanish-format stations, and gang-members (mostly native Hispanic/Black) would listen to B95 or Q97 for Hip-Hop. That is what I believe, and there is NOTHING racist about it!

You are ignoring the fact that the illegals, whether Hispanic or Asian or even Eastern European, would not "sign up" to be part of a ratings survey that requires giving an address and family data. The bangers, likely with no stable address, would not be contacted either in an address-based survey recruit.

So the tastes of neither group influence local radio.
 
Even if "illegals" or "gang bangers" or "welfare" did and could influence ratings books, the initial post was using the terminology as a pejorative towards certain groups of people, all of a minority ethnic status.

And to DanielBoone's point about "illegal aliens" (I'm assuming you mean people who have come primarily from Mexico) and gang bangers, yes you are correct in the majority of cases these groups do listen to certain language and music radio stations, the difference is that you didn't use primarily derogatory phrasing and language to describe these groups of people/listeners. Remember the old adage, "its not what you say, its how you say it?" I think it applies to this thread
 
A classic country station AM or FM should include songs from Bob Wills , Hank snow and the artists that made country music Great

Yee Haw! I totally agree. I fantasize about a rebirth of KFRE 940 but with the all the sports play by play it has currently. Unfortunately David is right, 93.7 and 102.7 sound a lot like hip-hop, with a twang.
 
Even if "illegals" or "gang bangers" or "welfare" did and could influence ratings books, the initial post was using the terminology as a pejorative towards certain groups of people, all of a minority ethnic status.

And to DanielBoone's point about "illegal aliens" (I'm assuming you mean people who have come primarily from Mexico) and gang bangers, yes you are correct in the majority of cases these groups do listen to certain language and music radio stations, the difference is that you didn't use primarily derogatory phrasing and language to describe these groups of people/listeners. Remember the old adage, "its not what you say, its how you say it?" I think it applies to this thread

Ok, then how would YOU say it? I was not being derogatory, is there a better way of describing groups of people? How about "Non-White?" Is that better? Saying Hispanic, Mexican, Gang-bangers are NOT derogatory words last time I checked. There are other words, but they would not be appropriate, and I certainly do not use those words either. Would illegal aliens from Europe (very few of them here) listen to Spanish-language formats? I DON'T THINK SO! And I did NOT bring welfare into this discussion either!
 
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"93.7 and 102.7 sound a lot like hip-hop, with a twang."
BING!!! BANG!!!!! Give that man Brett a cupie doll!!
I used to say it's 'Pop with a twang' but now, that Brett nailed it!
 
Ok, then how would YOU say it? I was not being derogatory, is there a better way of describing groups of people? How about "Non-White?" Is that better?

"Hispanic" is not a race. Most Hispanics in the US are racially classified as "white" by the Bureau of the Census. The correct demographic denominator is "non-Hispanic white".
 
A classic country station AM or FM should include songs from Bob Wills , Hank snow and the artists that made country music Great

Check out "America's Back 40" on Sundays at 1 PM. It's on KPFA here but also on 88.1 in Fresno. You'll hear those artists plus new, emerging talent that still plays the traditional style of Country that other stations won't touch. Commercial-free to boot.

Dave B.
 
Check out "America's Back 40" on Sundays at 1 PM. It's on KPFA here but also on 88.1 in Fresno. You'll hear those artists plus new, emerging talent that still plays the traditional style of Country that other stations won't touch. Commercial-free to boot.

Dave B.
America's hicks from coast to coast ! Luv-it, and Lyle too.
 
Hmmm we've got at least two of each: - fake-cowboy-music, head-banging rock, sportz up the ying yang - and at least 3 of the hate-the-'liberals' talk cry-baby stations-- what more could any red neck good ol boy want?
 
Sorry "again' for my posts last weekend, I was on my 14th beer and had a bad weekend, sorry for the whole posts, the words, the statements about who should radio program to, the Welfare thing and the Undocumented immigrants, which my nextdoor neighbors are and are very nice people, shhh don't tell anyone, in the earlier years their kids would blast the formats I mentioned at high volume levels from their cars where I couldn't here my TV, anyways PEACE
 
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I record every AT 40 Classic broadcast Casey Kasum on to DVD through the internet every week 70s and 80s i have done this over the last 7 years, have a good collection and listening to this week from current broadcast this week on WWIS Western Wisconsin from August 27 1987 Annalisa where are you when i need you I ****in' Quit
 
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WWIS at 40 80s countdown is not the "Network" broadcast this week,This Week it's from August 31, 1985 on KMMX 107.7 Dayton I-Heart Radio now, and i'm recording it now for tomorrow, It will be on KOLA 99.9 at 5 AM

I use the old style to record AT 40 from the output of my computer to a conventional DVD recorder.
 
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in the earlier years their kids would blast the formats I mentioned at high volume levels from their cars where I couldn't here my TV, anyways

I put up with that NOW. I can hear the bass six blocks away! And I hate it!
 
Ok, then how would YOU say it? I was not being derogatory, is there a better way of describing groups of people? How about "Non-White?" Is that better? Saying Hispanic, Mexican, Gang-bangers are NOT derogatory words last time I checked. There are other words, but they would not be appropriate, and I certainly do not use those words either. Would illegal aliens from Europe (very few of them here) listen to Spanish-language formats? I DON'T THINK SO! And I did NOT bring welfare into this discussion either!

That is a good question, because even though you used the term "illegal" to describe people that listen to Spanish language radio stations, you did not criticize them as a group, even though the vast majority are not "illegal". The difference is how one uses the terms. Think about this, the Central Valley has ALOT of Christian radio stations. What if we in place of calling their listening group "Christains" and instead switched to calling them "Jesus Freaks". So some Joe Blow could start complaining about the amount of Christian radio stations and when K241CL-FM 96.1 went on the air recently, Joe Blow complained about it being just another Christian radio station, and why do we need so many of them and why cant we just have format "xyz" because the Central Valley has enough Christian radio stations already and the "Jesus Freaks" don't need another radio station. In this fictitious scenario, Joe Blow was not wrong about his feeling about the large percentage of religious stations, rather just on his terminology about those who listen to those stations.
 
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Ok, then how would YOU say it? I was not being derogatory, is there a better way of describing groups of people? How about "Non-White?" Is that better? Saying Hispanic, Mexican, Gang-bangers are NOT derogatory words last time I checked. There are other words, but they would not be appropriate, and I certainly do not use those words either. Would illegal aliens from Europe (very few of them here) listen to Spanish-language formats? I DON'T THINK SO! And I did NOT bring welfare into this discussion either!

You are making my point DanielBoone, you didn't use the words in a derogatory manor, even though you may have mischaracterized a certain listening group,nor did you bring up welfare to describe a certain type of format. Its probably just better to leave out any stereotypes when talking about language or format of a station.
 
Really? I learn something new everyday.

Yep. The term "Hispanic" did not even exist prior to the 1980 Census. It was "invented" (using a term for people from the Iberian Peninsula that was seldom used) so that the Census could provide statistics needed to implement the 1970's era civil rights and EEO legislation.

An Hispanic can be white, Black, Asian or Native American (meaning "The Americas") or any combination. "Hispanic" is not an ethnicity; it's a broad term for anyone whose heritage and/or culture comes from the nations where Spanish was spoken or from the parts of the US where Spanish was originally spoken.

I have worked for or with Hispanics with surnames like Hadad and Dassun, Liberman and Friedman, Chong and Wu, Ruggiero, Bricker and Herrenbruger.
 
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