Friday & Saturday BSO Broadcasts WERE Identical

[Laurence Glavin]

I've been around sports fans, so I have a certain understanding of illogical people, but I DON'T understand how anyone can say that the Friday and Saturday BSO are NOT identical, except to the extent that any two live performances vary somewhat. If the Orchestra played Beethoven's "Egmont" overture and the Berg Violin Concerto before the intermission (it may come as a surprise to some people, ok ONE person, that the Berg Violin Concerto is a frequently-performed piece and recorded enough times to be considered a pillar of the 20th-Century repertoire) and Mahler's First Symphony after the intermission on Friday, all three pieces would be played again on Saturday night. It hasn't happened oftern, but there have been occasions when either the Globe's or Phoenix's music critic has gone back on a subsequent night after reviewing the first BSO concert to hear the same program because there was scuttlebut among musicians that the first night's performance was a bit "off". The usual canard is that the Friday afternoon operformance is for the rich, blue-haired ladies crowd, while Saturday night is for the more advanced listener. But very many students pick up "rush" seats on Friday afternoon, and BTW some Friday performances take place Friday EVENINGS. Before the great "dumbing-down" that occurred at WCRB in the 1990s, WCRB aired tapes of BSO concerts on Friday nights, usually 5 or 6 weeks delayed...there was a perception that some people wanted to hear them twice.

 

[Romy The Cat]

I've been around sports fans, so I have a certain understanding of illogical people, but I DON'T understand how anyone can say that the Friday and Saturday BSO are NOT identical, except to the extent that any two live performances vary somewhat.

Laurence,

I know very little about sport but let me I give you an association. Let pretend that you area Red Sox fan, they play against Yankee and the game end up with some kind of score. Next day your Red Sox played with the same Yankee and the game turned out to have the same score. Does it mean that they were identical games and that you, as a sport fun, shall not attend the second game? The Friday day and Saturday night concepts are played for different audiences, with different objectives. Many people use Friday broadcasts as a preview for new paces, new conductors or new soloists. There is absolutely nothing illogical in desire to hear Friday day and Saturday events. I it not to mention that I never ever heard BSO play Friday and Saturday in the same way, NEVER!!! There is no “somewhat difference” but absolutely different level of intensity, attention and exprecianism.

 

[Deleted User]

If you put sheet music in front of the pitcher that told him to throw a ball, pitch to the inside, outside, fastball, etc, and they players executed the same motions all the time, the games would be almost identical.

Sports are random, music is scripted and so long as the musicians don't vary from the script, it can be the same performance almost every time.


Go follow a band from venue to venue on tour, and outside of the lead singer changing the " How ya doing tonight (fill in tonight's city here) !" the shows can be the same night after night after night, except for the front man screwing up and forgetting what town they are in. That is the nature of music, especially when there is sheet music in front of them.

 

[DanStrassberg]

If you put sheet music in front of the pitcher that told him to throw a ball, pitch to the inside, outside, fastball, etc, and they players executed the same motions all the time, the games would be almost identical.

Certainly true of most--though probably not all--SYMPHONIC music (that is, the music that the BSO plays). But you can't say the same about a lot of jazz and a lot of rock, in which the musicians' schtick is improvisation. If the BSO improvised (I don't believe they do--at least not in concert), you couldn't say it about them either.

 

[Romy The Cat]

If you put sheet music in front of the pitcher that told him to throw a ball, pitch to the inside, outside, fastball, etc, and they players executed the same motions all the time, the games would be almost identical.

Certainly true of most--though probably not all--SYMPHONIC music (that is, the music that the BSO plays).

Dan,

a am sorry to say it but the expressed option is pure hallucination of individuals who are not familiar with classical music. I do not what to argue this subject – I in fact surprised how this subject ever was raised at this forum. Still, I would like you to know that your insistence that Friday day and Saturday evening BSO concerts are identical sound absolutely ridicules to ANYBODY who understands classical music a bit more than a recitation the names of codecs, MPX coders and stations abbreviations…

The Cat

 

[DanStrassberg]

I would like you to know that your insistence that Friday day and Saturday evening BSO concerts are identical sound absolutely ridicules to ANYBODY who understands classical music a bit more than a recitation the names of codecs, MPX coders and stations abbreviations…

Although, over a period of several years, I have been very critical of Mr Glavin for his ongoing verbal war with the "old" WCRB and its management, I absolutely must bow to his opinion on the content of the Friday and Saturday BSO broadcsts. Laurence is the most serious classical music afficionado I have ever known (and I had an aunt who was a concert pianist). If Laurence says the Friday and Saturday broadcasts were, for all practical purposes, identical in content (and I believe that is exactly what he said), I have to believe him. Laurence has published his credentials as a classical music afficionado on at least one board or list that I follow (I don't recall whether it was radio-info.com, however), and I'm impressed. Certainly doesn't mean I agree with him very often, but it does mean that when he makes a statement about the content of classical music radio broadcasts, other posters should take him very seriously. YOU should take him very seriously!

 

[Romy The Cat]

I would like you to know that your insistence that Friday day and Saturday evening BSO concerts are identical sound absolutely ridicules to ANYBODY who understands classical music a bit more than a recitation the names of codecs, MPX coders and stations abbreviations…

Although, over a period of several years, I have been very critical of Mr Glavin for his ongoing verbal war with the "old" WCRB and its management, I absolutely must bow to his opinion on the content of the Friday and Saturday BSO broadcsts. Laurence is the most serious classical music afficionado I have ever known (and I had an aunt who was a concert pianist). If Laurence says the Friday and Saturday broadcasts were, for all practical purposes, identical in content (and I believe that is exactly what he said), I have to believe him. Laurence has published his credentials as a classical music afficionado on at least one board or list that I follow (I don't recall whether it was radio-info.com, however), and I'm impressed. Certainly doesn't mean I agree with him very often, but it does mean that when he makes a statement about the content of classical music radio broadcasts, other posters should take him very seriously. YOU should take him very seriously!

Dan, I do not look for aficionados, opinion makes, credentials showing, making alliances or the people that I would take more or less seriously. I within myself have all necessary reference points to express my own judgment and I do not need or care about anybody else’s qualifications. Listening Friday and Saturday BSO broadcasts quite attentively I know what they are and if a person feel that they are identical then it perfectly indicate to me where the person stands. I am not saying anything negative about Mr. Glavin, he is perfectly entitled to have his view. Still, if he impresses the electricians at this forum with his aunt “who was a concert pianist” then it does not do a lot to me as I’m listening the very same BSO concerts, I know what doing on and I do know what Mr. Glavin does not acknowledge. The entire debate about similarity or dessimilarity of the BSO playing at this forum sounds as ridicules as a collaboration of gynecologists how they would pull teethes out from mouth…

Romy the Cat

 

[Deleted User]

Ever hear the joke about the OB/GYN that becomes a mechanic?

 

[Laurence Glavin]

Ever hear the joke about the OB/GYN that becomes a mechanic?

"The Mechanic", a film starring Charles Bronson, will air on THIS TV on Thursday night, January 14th from 8:00 until 10:00 pm EST. It can be seen on one of WHDH-DT's channels, or on cable in some areas (channel 200 on Comcast).

 

[Deleted User]

not a bad movie, I'll have to watch it again,

The joke is about a OB/GYN who becomes a mechanic, and after his first big engine job the boss comes over and congratulates him for a job well done, and the Dr. says " you've never seen someone re ring an engine before, to which the Boss goes " not by going in through the exhaust pipe"

 

[WLYNWAZNgm]

Re: mechanic joke

cue the rimshot!