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JohnnyMorganWXJX
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Heard a liner touting the fact 94.5 3WS has gone digital/HD.
Just saying. Not that it matters...I'm an analog(ue) kinda guy.
Just saying. Not that it matters...I'm an analog(ue) kinda guy.
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MadAirchecker
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They've been all over that for a while now. They refer people to the website for information on what it all means.
> Heard a liner touting the fact 94.5 3WS has gone digital/HD.
>
>
> Just saying. Not that it matters...I'm an analog(ue) kinda
> guy.
>
> Heard a liner touting the fact 94.5 3WS has gone digital/HD.
>
>
> Just saying. Not that it matters...I'm an analog(ue) kinda
> guy.
>
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Mrmusic
Guest
> They've been all over that for a while now. They refer
> people to the website for information on what it all means.
Because they don't know what it means. As the average listener,I don't care about HD either. But, for selling purposes as an advertizer, I do.
The many facets of HD's properties, when pitched to the correct demographic, is a wonderful way to increase revenue. I think that this has been lost to the Clearchannel people.
> people to the website for information on what it all means.
Because they don't know what it means. As the average listener,I don't care about HD either. But, for selling purposes as an advertizer, I do.
The many facets of HD's properties, when pitched to the correct demographic, is a wonderful way to increase revenue. I think that this has been lost to the Clearchannel people.
> Just saying. Not that it matters...I'm an analog(ue) kinda
> guy.
>
Hey I like my oldies on AM...guess thats why I listen to KFB & KHB during music hours!<P ID="signature">______________
Henry Aaron hit 755 career home runs. How many of these were of the "inside the park" variety ?</P>
> guy.
>
Hey I like my oldies on AM...guess thats why I listen to KFB & KHB during music hours!<P ID="signature">______________
Henry Aaron hit 755 career home runs. How many of these were of the "inside the park" variety ?</P>
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Radio_Realist
Guest
> And what are they supposed to listen to this wonderful HD
> radio ?
I want to know what's the big deal about hearing songs that were originally recorded on old analog equipment ages ago in wonderful digital sound. I like music from the olden days as much as anyone, but reality needs to be faced. The top 40 hits from the 60's and 70's weren't the greatest recordings from a technical perspective. Hell, lots of people even listen to oldies on AM since that's the original sound of the music, static and all.
Wouldn't it make more sense to convert a station that played music that was recorded in high definition digital formats instead of one that plays songs that sound like they put a microphone next to a record player?
> radio ?
I want to know what's the big deal about hearing songs that were originally recorded on old analog equipment ages ago in wonderful digital sound. I like music from the olden days as much as anyone, but reality needs to be faced. The top 40 hits from the 60's and 70's weren't the greatest recordings from a technical perspective. Hell, lots of people even listen to oldies on AM since that's the original sound of the music, static and all.
Wouldn't it make more sense to convert a station that played music that was recorded in high definition digital formats instead of one that plays songs that sound like they put a microphone next to a record player?
> I want to know what's the big deal about hearing songs that
> were originally recorded on old analog equipment ages ago in
> wonderful digital sound.
Um,RR, you need to think a bit differently...
Much of the promise of HD radio is spectrum management, including multiple simultaneous program options for currently licensed stations as well as a possibility for improvement of radio reception. Whether these factors will ultimately occur or not is another topic, but the goal here (despite the marketing bluster that may be on 3WS) is spectrum management...and the potential creation of more places for more content.
Or an increase of the vast wasteland.
We're still reading the plain ASCII text of this digitally-driven board, aren't we? And where would you have posed that question and that specifically, even in the usenet realm?
> were originally recorded on old analog equipment ages ago in
> wonderful digital sound.
Um,RR, you need to think a bit differently...
Much of the promise of HD radio is spectrum management, including multiple simultaneous program options for currently licensed stations as well as a possibility for improvement of radio reception. Whether these factors will ultimately occur or not is another topic, but the goal here (despite the marketing bluster that may be on 3WS) is spectrum management...and the potential creation of more places for more content.
Or an increase of the vast wasteland.
We're still reading the plain ASCII text of this digitally-driven board, aren't we? And where would you have posed that question and that specifically, even in the usenet realm?
> Much of the promise of HD radio is spectrum management,
> including multiple simultaneous program options for
> currently licensed stations as well as a possibility for
> improvement of radio reception. Whether these factors will
> ultimately occur or not is another topic, but the goal here
> (despite the marketing bluster that may be on 3WS) is
> spectrum management...and the potential creation of more
> places for more content.
I could not have worded it better and we at WLTJ and WRRK are going to do the multistream
but after we the providers of the HD signal actually convert. my guess is it will be 2 years before public interest takes place.
trust me about the quality and I do understand thats why we at WLTJ and WRRK are replacing our older music with remastered recordings. Digital is worth it. I am testing my system now and to drive around the downtown pittsburgh area with no static or multipath on the HD, that alone is worth the investment
> including multiple simultaneous program options for
> currently licensed stations as well as a possibility for
> improvement of radio reception. Whether these factors will
> ultimately occur or not is another topic, but the goal here
> (despite the marketing bluster that may be on 3WS) is
> spectrum management...and the potential creation of more
> places for more content.
I could not have worded it better and we at WLTJ and WRRK are going to do the multistream
but after we the providers of the HD signal actually convert. my guess is it will be 2 years before public interest takes place.
trust me about the quality and I do understand thats why we at WLTJ and WRRK are replacing our older music with remastered recordings. Digital is worth it. I am testing my system now and to drive around the downtown pittsburgh area with no static or multipath on the HD, that alone is worth the investment
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Mrmusic
Guest
Radioengineer-
The spectrum management. It is a great multiple source of revenue, is it not?
That's the aspect of HD I am interested in. Of course, there will be businesses that would not want to buy these "spin-offs" if you will. However, they could be moneymakers.
Mr. Music
> > Much of the promise of HD radio is spectrum management,
> > including multiple simultaneous program options for
> > currently licensed stations as well as a possibility for
> > improvement of radio reception. Whether these factors
> will
> > ultimately occur or not is another topic, but the goal
> here
> > (despite the marketing bluster that may be on 3WS) is
> > spectrum management...and the potential creation of more
> > places for more content.
>
> I could not have worded it better and we at WLTJ and WRRK
> are going to do the multistream
>
> but after we the providers of the HD signal actually
> convert. my guess is it will be 2 years before public
> interest takes place.
>
> trust me about the quality and I do understand thats why we
> at WLTJ and WRRK are replacing our older music with
> remastered recordings. Digital is worth it. I am testing my
> system now and to drive around the downtown pittsburgh area
> with no static or multipath on the HD, that alone is worth
> the investment
>
The spectrum management. It is a great multiple source of revenue, is it not?
That's the aspect of HD I am interested in. Of course, there will be businesses that would not want to buy these "spin-offs" if you will. However, they could be moneymakers.
Mr. Music
> > Much of the promise of HD radio is spectrum management,
> > including multiple simultaneous program options for
> > currently licensed stations as well as a possibility for
> > improvement of radio reception. Whether these factors
> will
> > ultimately occur or not is another topic, but the goal
> here
> > (despite the marketing bluster that may be on 3WS) is
> > spectrum management...and the potential creation of more
> > places for more content.
>
> I could not have worded it better and we at WLTJ and WRRK
> are going to do the multistream
>
> but after we the providers of the HD signal actually
> convert. my guess is it will be 2 years before public
> interest takes place.
>
> trust me about the quality and I do understand thats why we
> at WLTJ and WRRK are replacing our older music with
> remastered recordings. Digital is worth it. I am testing my
> system now and to drive around the downtown pittsburgh area
> with no static or multipath on the HD, that alone is worth
> the investment
>
> Radioengineer-
>
> The spectrum management. It is a great multiple source of
> revenue, is it not?
>
> That's the aspect of HD I am interested in. Of course,
> there will be businesses that would not want to buy these
> "spin-offs" if you will. However, they could be
> moneymakers.
Of course,
Today's HD radio provides 3 additional "streams" 1 has to be allocated to mirror the analog signal which is CD quality (FCC law), the 2nd stream has the quality of the current analog FM and you can program whatever the station wants to do with it and add commercials or make it commercial free, or sponsored hour blocks of music, have live jocks or just a hard drive. And the 3rd could be used for a talk format or all news since the quality will equal a good mono internet web stream. Advertisers will find it more appealing that their dollars are directed right to the demo they want. Sales people will have an easier time selling this new bandwidth, that’s my opinion. Of course in the real world of today the advertiser will probably get big discounts for buying the multistream. We need to have radios out there to sell this new wave. Lets face it I only know of 1 other person that has an HD radio in Pittsburgh besides me. In my car I’m using a Panasonic MXE CQ-CB9900U
I still like this radio. http://www.radiosophy.com (when it becomes available, in September)
I have my HD signal broadcasting, I find it hard to listen to analog FM after listening to WLTJ-HD, in a few weeks or sooner I will have WLTJ-HD-1 streaming. What will be on the stream will be determined by the program director. I’m just carrier and quality
When the analog carrier is phased out in less than 10 years we can capture that part of the spectrum and add another 2 CD quality or 4 FM quality streams on top of what we are already streaming so WLTJ could have 6 to 8 (stations) depending on the allocation of bandwidth per channel
Imagine what the radio dial is going to be like in 10 years if each FM station will have 6 differently programmed channels to do with what they will.
>
> The spectrum management. It is a great multiple source of
> revenue, is it not?
>
> That's the aspect of HD I am interested in. Of course,
> there will be businesses that would not want to buy these
> "spin-offs" if you will. However, they could be
> moneymakers.
Of course,
Today's HD radio provides 3 additional "streams" 1 has to be allocated to mirror the analog signal which is CD quality (FCC law), the 2nd stream has the quality of the current analog FM and you can program whatever the station wants to do with it and add commercials or make it commercial free, or sponsored hour blocks of music, have live jocks or just a hard drive. And the 3rd could be used for a talk format or all news since the quality will equal a good mono internet web stream. Advertisers will find it more appealing that their dollars are directed right to the demo they want. Sales people will have an easier time selling this new bandwidth, that’s my opinion. Of course in the real world of today the advertiser will probably get big discounts for buying the multistream. We need to have radios out there to sell this new wave. Lets face it I only know of 1 other person that has an HD radio in Pittsburgh besides me. In my car I’m using a Panasonic MXE CQ-CB9900U
I still like this radio. http://www.radiosophy.com (when it becomes available, in September)
I have my HD signal broadcasting, I find it hard to listen to analog FM after listening to WLTJ-HD, in a few weeks or sooner I will have WLTJ-HD-1 streaming. What will be on the stream will be determined by the program director. I’m just carrier and quality
When the analog carrier is phased out in less than 10 years we can capture that part of the spectrum and add another 2 CD quality or 4 FM quality streams on top of what we are already streaming so WLTJ could have 6 to 8 (stations) depending on the allocation of bandwidth per channel
Imagine what the radio dial is going to be like in 10 years if each FM station will have 6 differently programmed channels to do with what they will.
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Radio_Realist
Guest
> What will be on the
> stream will be determined by the program director. I’m just
> carrier and quality
Let's hope he does as good a job determining what to put on the air as you do in keeping the broadcasting running. I'm reminded of the early days of HiFi or stereo in the 1950's when many of my father's friends had the first systems (which had great sound quality for the time), and one "demo" record to play on the system.
> Imagine what the radio dial is going to be like in 10 years
> if each FM station will have 6 differently programmed
> channels to do with what they will.
The mind boggles! We'll have six times as many sources for tight, narrow musical playlists announced by voice-tracked DJ's.
> stream will be determined by the program director. I’m just
> carrier and quality
Let's hope he does as good a job determining what to put on the air as you do in keeping the broadcasting running. I'm reminded of the early days of HiFi or stereo in the 1950's when many of my father's friends had the first systems (which had great sound quality for the time), and one "demo" record to play on the system.
> Imagine what the radio dial is going to be like in 10 years
> if each FM station will have 6 differently programmed
> channels to do with what they will.
The mind boggles! We'll have six times as many sources for tight, narrow musical playlists announced by voice-tracked DJ's.
> Imagine what the radio dial is going to be like in 10 years
> if each FM station will have 6 differently programmed
> channels to do with what they will.
So, we'll have to wait 10 years for JACK to come to Pittsburgh? Maybe the return of Jammin Oldies?
<P ID="signature">______________
Henry Aaron hit 755 career home runs. How many of these were of the "inside the park" variety ?</P>
> if each FM station will have 6 differently programmed
> channels to do with what they will.
So, we'll have to wait 10 years for JACK to come to Pittsburgh? Maybe the return of Jammin Oldies?
<P ID="signature">______________
Henry Aaron hit 755 career home runs. How many of these were of the "inside the park" variety ?</P>
> The mind boggles! We'll have six times as many sources for
> tight, narrow musical playlists announced by voice-tracked
> DJ's.
>
Now if all these digital feeds were sent down by satellite instead of worrying about terrestrial transmitters then......
Oh, wait, someone is doing just that?
Darn!
> tight, narrow musical playlists announced by voice-tracked
> DJ's.
>
Now if all these digital feeds were sent down by satellite instead of worrying about terrestrial transmitters then......
Oh, wait, someone is doing just that?
Darn!
> Now if all these digital feeds were sent down by satellite
> instead of worrying about terrestrial transmitters
> then......
>
> Oh, wait, someone is doing just that?
>
> Darn!
>
well, I heard WLTJ HD this morning when I returned back, and I have XM satellite and I have to say HD sounds great. blows away satellite radio. I travel all over the eastern seaboard so XM is a travel expense to me. but if HD radio is free and XM is still a pay service, well you do the math. by the way is WLTJ the only station in Pittsburgh thats HD? I scanned all the local stations and they were the only HD that was broadcasting? AM or FM
> instead of worrying about terrestrial transmitters
> then......
>
> Oh, wait, someone is doing just that?
>
> Darn!
>
well, I heard WLTJ HD this morning when I returned back, and I have XM satellite and I have to say HD sounds great. blows away satellite radio. I travel all over the eastern seaboard so XM is a travel expense to me. but if HD radio is free and XM is still a pay service, well you do the math. by the way is WLTJ the only station in Pittsburgh thats HD? I scanned all the local stations and they were the only HD that was broadcasting? AM or FM
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Radio_Realist
Guest
> well, I heard WLTJ HD this morning when I returned back, and
> I have XM satellite and I have to say HD sounds great.
Well, I started a new job where they use WLTJ as background music. The first week, I thought it sounded pretty good. I liked their concept of a "no repeat workday". But by the end of the second week, I was so sick of hearing the same damn few songs over and over again that I turned the speaker near my desk off.
Now, maybe the tone quality between HD and FM is significant, though I doubt if it's as big a leap in sound quality as moving from AM to FM. But it doesn't much matter how good the sound quality is if the songs being played aren't worth listening to.
> I have XM satellite and I have to say HD sounds great.
Well, I started a new job where they use WLTJ as background music. The first week, I thought it sounded pretty good. I liked their concept of a "no repeat workday". But by the end of the second week, I was so sick of hearing the same damn few songs over and over again that I turned the speaker near my desk off.
Now, maybe the tone quality between HD and FM is significant, though I doubt if it's as big a leap in sound quality as moving from AM to FM. But it doesn't much matter how good the sound quality is if the songs being played aren't worth listening to.
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