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Fund Raiser Buys AAR Back on in Phoenix (UPDATED)

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Update: All Access reports the "rich Democrats" bankrolling the Phoenix LMA are the same ones who were principal backers of AAR: Sheldon and Anita Drobny of Chicago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Drobny

Save Air America Phoenix, headed by former Phoenix progressive talk host Mike Newcomb (who currently hosts a syndicated weekend show), claims to have reached a deal for an LMA to get Newcomb and other progressive talk programming back on in Phoenix (Adult Standards KPHX) next Monday. The group's website says they will need continuing donations to stay on the air.
http://www.saveairamericaphoenix.com/

Mike Newcomb website:
http://www.mikenewcomb.net/index.php

Apparently, the new PT line-up will include Newcomb. No announcement has been made whether the line-up will have a place for Phoenix's former morning drive progressive host Charles Goyette - or for Ed Schultz, previously carried on KXXT, Phoenix before that station dropped progressive talk. Nor has the group said exactly which programs it will take from AAR.

All Access (UPDATED):
<blockquote>Air America Phoenix Sets Return On KPHX
ALL ACCESS hears that AIR AMERICA RADIO's PHOENIX affiliate will relaunch on CONTINENTAL BROADCASTING CORP.'s KPHX-A/PHOENIX in an LMA arrangement on APRIL 3. The station recently flipped from ALL COMEDY RADIO to Adult Standards and will pick up the liberal talk lineup, including local host Dr. MIKE NEWCOMB, dropped by crosstown KXXT-A when COMMUNICOM recently bought that station and flipped it to Religion.

The "SAVE AIR AMERICA PHOENIX" group led by NEWCOMB, which held a pixel-selling web site fundraiser to get back on the air, is behind the new LMA venture, although it will need to continue to raise funds to pay the lease. NEWCOMB, who will serve as GM, and AIR AMERICA RADIO co-founders and DEMOCRATIC PARTY financiers SHELDON and ANITA DROBNY have formed NOVA M RADIO to run KPHX and look for more acquisitions or LMAs.</blockquote>
Meanwhile, the Phoenix "alternative" newspaper, Phoenix New Times, suggests at least part of the local liberal community is not happy with or supportive of this "beg-a-thon" approach to saving local progressive talk.
<blockquote>
The Bird thinks that the only thing more unfortunate than the death of Air America Phoenix is the whining and bitch-fighting that's taken place since the liberal radio station's funeral.

Former employees of Air America Phoenix are as busy slinging mud and pointing fingers as they are scrambling to relaunch their hyper-liberal chat station with one of those "save our sunk ship" fund-raising sites -- behavior that The Bird thought liberal radio types were way above.

Wrong. The guys from Air America's Phoenix affiliate -- home to famed chat hosts Charles "Fearless Talk Radio" Goyette and lefty Ed Schultz, and found on the AM dial at KXXT 1010 until March 1, when the station's new owners, Denver-based religious broadcasters Communicom, switched to an all-Jesus format -- are taking the sort of self-pitying "Mom, he hit me!" stance so popular with, well, conservative Christians.

"Air America's Phoenix station was taken off the air by a Christian broadcasting company," according to the group's woe-is-me Web site (www.saveairamericaphoenix.com), which goes on to beg for $500,000 in donations from former listeners.

Please. As much as The Bird enjoys a good conspiracy theory, and as much as it enjoys going after big-bucks-corrupted Christians, even a pretend pigeon can tell that this is merely a case of someone with a bigger pile of dough buying out a little guy who couldn't say no.

Air America Phoenix's former station manager Robert J. Christy agrees.

"There's no conspiracy here," he moaned to The Bird. "(BLEEP) happens. Like a radio station gets offered a ton of money and decides to sell. There's nothing surprising about that. Everyone knew what was happening."

Not so, said former Air America employee Jeff Farias, who produced the station's Mike Newcomb Show and co-hosted a weekend chat fest with The Bird's favorite legislative lefty, state Representative Kyrsten Sinema (see "Howl of Sanity," March 9). "We were as shocked as our listeners. We found out the night we went off the air, when Ed Schultz announced on his show that he was going off the air in Phoenix." ...

"Bullshit!" Christy squawked to this foul fowl. "These naive people that I gave paychecks to think they're smarter than I am. They don't know what it takes to put up a successful broadcasting business. Fifty-dollar donations from listeners aren't enough to finance a station -- the bank will throw their ass out the door!"

But the former Air America-ers won't need a bank, if all goes according to their plan. "We're going to find a rich Democrat," Farias explained to The Bird. "We've already found a station in town that we can lease for a year. We had a meeting with our attorneys, and now we're looking for that wealthy Dem who wants to bankroll a radio station." ...
</blockquote>
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/Issues/2006-03-16/news/Bird_print.html
 
Re: Fund Raiser Buys AAR Back on in Phoenix

> Save Air America Phoenix, headed by former Phoenix
> progressive talk host Mike Newcomb (who currently hosts a
> syndicated weekend show), claims to have reached a deal for
> an LMA to get Newcomb and other progressive talk programming
> back on in Phoenix (Adult Standards KPHX) next Monday. The
> group's website says they will need continuing donations to
> stay on the air.
> http://www.saveairamericaphoenix.com/
>
> Mike Newcomb website:
> http://www.mikenewcomb.net/index.php
>
> Apparently, the new PT line-up will include Newcomb. No
> announcement has been made whether the line-up will have a
> place for Phoenix's former morning drive progressive host
> Charles Goyette - or for Ed Schultz, previously carried on
> KXXT, Phoenix before that station dropped progressive talk.
> Nor has the group said exactly which programs it will take
> from AAR.

It won't include Charles Goyette or Ed Schultz, both of whom are on board with ex-KXXT station manager Bob Christy's alternative effort to get another station in Phoenix. Bet on Christy to be successful should he land another outlet, which shouldn't be a problem considering the sorry state of Phoenix AM stations not owned by Clear Channel or Bonneville.

I give Newcomb's whiners 6 months tops. Begging won't work and they don't seem to have the first clue about business.

> "Well, since you asked," Christy confessed to this feathered
> fiend, "my banker and I are putting together a financial
> package on a Phoenix station. I've got Goyette and Schultz.
> We're gonna do Air America."
>
> Farias is unfazed by news that Christy's still plotting his
> own gulp of Air America.
>
> "I'm sorry he feels that way," Farias said of his former
> boss' snarky comments on his listener-funded plans. "But we
> can't wait in a glass case while he continues to look for
> funding. We're going to find our own, and get back on the
> air. It's an election year -- the people need us."

Proof that Newcomb's bunch is completely clueless. No talk show host ever got someone elected - and that includes Rush Limbaugh.

And if they think they'll find a "rich Democrat" to fund their debacle, they're more delusional than I thought. The most prominent rich Democrat in Arizona is supermarket zillionaire Eddie Basha, and AFAIK he's not a part of this effort.

> Christy thinks The Bird's full of seed.
>
> "It's not a trend," he insisted. "There's still a place for
> liberal radio. The trouble is, it needs to be run by sound
> businessmen, and not by emotion. Emotion is for talk-show
> hosts."

He's 100% correct.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/Issues/2006-03-16/news/Bird_print.html
 
Re: Fund Raiser Buys AAR Back on in Phoenix

Sure hope you got permission to republish that Phoenix New Times segment. Yes, congratulations, you cited the link. But that post screams "violation" of fair use.

But, you probably already knew that and are fixing it, aren't you? Aren't you?
 
Re: Quote of the Week

> To be sure nobody misses this one (quoted in the Phoenix New
> Times):
http://ww> w.phoenixnewtimes.com/Issues/2006-03-16/news/Bird_print.html
>
>
> "There's still a place for liberal radio. The trouble is, it
> needs to be run by sound businessmen, and not by emotion.
> Emotion is for talk-show hosts."
> Robert J. Christy
> Former General Manager
> KXXT, Phoenix (Air America Phoenix)
>


At least SOMEONE has got it right!
 
Re: Quote of the Week

> At least SOMEONE has got it right!

Gotta agree here. "Buying pixels" on a website only gets you so far.

And how do those people who donated feel - now that it's known that wealthy libtalk backer Sheldon Drobny is on board?

It would seem to me that the effort by the former KXXT GM will bear more fruit, whenever it gets back to the air. This KPHX LMA reminds me of that group in Buffalo that's LMAing WHLD/1270...all ideology, little business sense.

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Re: Quote of the Week

> And how do those people who donated feel - now that it's
> known that wealthy libtalk backer Sheldon Drobny is on
> board?

Well, they'll be winning midterms so what do they... well...

> It would seem to me that the effort by the former KXXT GM
> will bear more fruit, whenever it gets back to the air.
> This KPHX LMA reminds me of that group in Buffalo that's
> LMAing WHLD/1270...all ideology, little business sense.

Yeah, but Drobny had at one point planned to sink plenty more money into actually buying stations in small markets to flip to libtalk. I guess if any of us wants to get our hands on some dough, all we need to do is have Sheldon Drobny on our show.
 
What is it with the Drobnys and Soros anyway?

These people are VERY successful financially. They apparently know how to invest (both describe themselves as investors and venture capitalists) and they know how to make money. It's also clear they don't have any moral or ethical aversion to profit.

But they don't INVEST in progressive talk - they donate. Contrary to what some of you here may believe, I think progressive talk - if well programmed and well managed - is financially viable. So apparently do Robert Christy in Phoenix, Randy Michaels, Jones Radio and Clear Channel (among others).

But apparently the Drobnys and Soros do NOT believe progressive talk can make money. I say that because they don't INVEST in progressive talk radio - they DONATE.

Their lack of confidence in the financial potential of progressive talk radio may actually undermine the format because the result is AAR - and now these ideologically-driven local stations - operate in a culture more like a non-profit organization or government agency than a for profit business.

I'd really like to see the next host who books the Drobnys ask them if they really think their is public demand for progressive talk, how come they haven't tried to make money with it?

I hope Christy gets back on the air in Phoenix. I'd like to see another real horse race (in addition to Buffalo) between ideology-based and business-based radio. Hint: Notice how well ideologically-driven Salem does against business-driven news-talk (Rush, Hannity, Beck et al) over on the conservative side of talk radio.
 
Re: What is it with the Drobnys and Soros anyway?

> But apparently the Drobnys and Soros do NOT believe
> progressive talk can make money. I say that because they
> don't INVEST in progressive talk radio - they DONATE.

Where can I find either Drobny or Soros quoted as saying that their participation in, say, Air America, is anything other than an investment?

I've never seen either of the Drobnys describing it in any other terms.

I've never seen Soros talking about his small investment in Air America.

The only people I see calling the Air America investments of either the Drobnys or Soros "donations" are those who would demean Air America, or those who unthinkingly parrot the words of the former group.

Seriously, where can I find it?<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>
 
Re: What is it with the Drobnys and Soros anyway?

They apparently have equity in Piquant.

In my Google search, I see them mostly described as "backers" or as having "bankrolled" AAR. I have seen them quoted as talking about the political impact they hope AAR will have. I have not seen them quoted as talking about financial return or gain from their participation in AAR. (If you have seen them talking ROI, please let us know where we can find that. And even if you have, AAR is not being operated as though these "investors" expect dividends and/or increases in shareholder value.)

This suggest financial return is not a primary motivation - nor do they appear to expect such a return. I call that a "donation." Possibly the situation is analogous to well-heeled "angels" who backed plays in Broadway's "golden age." They don't except a return but wish to be associated with the theatre; sometimes lightning strikes and the show is a hit.

I also consider it telling that instead of going public and offer equity participation, AAR (and Save Air America Phoenix)resort instead to non-profit (and non-commercial broadcasting) style fund-raising.

Piquant's management has not exactly been forth-coming in providing information about finances and operation. As a privately-held company they are not obliged to do so but the practice does encourage unfavorable speculation (which they have done little effectively to counter except to issue unspecific denials).

The basic point I and others are making here is AAR is not run on business-like basis and it needs to be in order to succeed. Do you take issue with this?

PS: None of this is intended as personal criticism of the Drobnys and Soros. In my view, they are backing their political beliefs (whether one agrees their views or not) with cash. What they do is different from "fat cats" who buy politicians and their votes to advance their own personal interests. I commend their good intentions and I think they took a wrong turn in making AAR a crusade rather a business.
 
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