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Furman Resigns from 1160

borderblaster said:
Guess you could hire Bill Boshears.

WLW had a contest where they selected potenntial talk show hosts to fill a 2 hour slot on Sunday night. They had maybe 6 (this was in the mid 90s) who did a Sunday night.
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Bill Boshears would be a big improvement over the saturday night "reruns" currently on WLW on the weekend. My policy as PD / OM at a N/T station was simple:

YOU CANNOT AIR "RERUNS" OF A CURRENT EVENTS TALK SHOW!

To borrow a line from Scott Sloan... Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot!
 
I never heard anything on Sun that was off color. Off the wall may have been another matter.

I've always said the only difference between Chuck Harder and Glenn Beck is Beck was syndicated and cleared on the syndicated owners on big sticks. Those sticks and the Fox show gave him enough cred to be wacky but considered mainstream. Hard Luck Charlie had to settle for mostly rural pea shooters and was never taken seriously except for the ma's and pa's that listened to him.
 
Beck was in the right place at the right time, when after 9/11 stations wanted a news/current events show in that midday time slot. Many were airing Dr. Laura at the time. Had Mike McConnell had the desire to be syndicated at that time he could be in that slot nationwide now.
 
Wasn't Mike McConnell syndicated for a short time? His show never had the national appeal as a Glenn Beck does. I liked him the best when his show was local and discussed non political topics.
 
I can't listen to Beck everyday. McConnell? Absolutely. Hands down. I used to make sure i caught his weekend show.
 
jry said:
I can't listen to Beck everyday. McConnell? Absolutely. Hands down. I used to make sure i caught his weekend show.
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There was a time maybe about 8 or 10 years ago when I listened to McConnell whenever I could, but ultimately I got tired of him. Again, I think its back to this whole problem I have with this whole genre of shows being so serious all the time. Beck was great at first when he was simply being a nut, then his show started having all of these Christian (Mormon) overtones. Not that I'm anti-Christian (as I am one), I just don't really want to hear about it on a show like his. Then the show veered into "the dollar is going down" land. I think he completely lost me by hawking those gold scamsters and saying you should "pray on it". I wonder how many people got ripped off thanks to Glenn channeling God for investment advice?
 
borderblaster said:
Xtra, you never heard McConnell's Friday lighter topics?
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I thought his show became a snoozer. At the end of the day, his formula for analyzing any topic got predictable and old. His Weekend show I would listen to, but only because nothing else was on. It's not that I disliked McConnell, it's just that at the end of the day he was just like everybody else.

I will say one thing in his favor, and that's that at least he had guests and that tends to break up the monotony.

Same thing goes for Doc Thompson. I think he sounds great when he covers for Glenn Beck. He has a fair amount of energy and charisma, and he sounds pretty upbeat. But he sounds so low key and almost like he's been drugged on his local show. I don't get it.
 
jry said:
What makes Limbaugh work when others fail? An element of humor. Some entertainment.
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The show is also packaged like a Top-40 radio station from the 1960's, and 1970's. It's tight, upbeat, and it moves along. It doesn't drag on like some other shows. They get the timing of virtually everything right from the bumper music, to how long they let callers drone on. Great production value.
 
I think McConnell was syndicated for a couple years. As a long term listener of his though, I think his show was suffering even before he went national.

Seems as though he was 'phoning it in' for some time even before he finally went national. It sounded like he was just bored.

Then he went national and he became inundated with 'Trucker Calls' which lowered the intelligence of conversations that you heard...yep, it got dumbed down.

Haven't heard him since but I think he is being remembered quite a bit less each year now.
 
brian65 said:
I think McConnell was syndicated for a couple years. As a long term listener of his though, I think his show was suffering even before he went national.

Seems as though he was 'phoning it in' for some time even before he finally went national. It sounded like he was just bored.

Then he went national and he became inundated with 'Trucker Calls' which lowered the intelligence of conversations that you heard...yep, it got dumbed down.

Haven't heard him since but I think he is being remembered quite a bit less each year now.
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Supposedly, the "trucker calls" were coming from XM. But I agree, it was brutal.
 
XtraXtra said:
jry said:
What makes Limbaugh work when others fail? An element of humor. Some entertainment.
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The show is also packaged like a Top-40 radio station from the 1960's, and 1970's. It's tight, upbeat, and it moves along. It doesn't drag on like some other shows. They get the timing of virtually everything right from the bumper music, to how long they let callers drone on. Great production value.
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Great analysis. You hit the nail on the head.
 
1160's 5000 watt day signal isn't the problem. It's the 900 watt night signal with WYLL Chicago aimed right at them. Some nights, WYLL is better in Cincinnati than the Florence station. This time of year, only midday is at 5000 watts for the whole time period. A lot of mornings and afternoons are low power with Chicago pounding in.

WKRC does fine with 5000 day and 1000 night, but on a better frequency and a LOT less interference.
 
spm1036 said:
1160's 5000 watt day signal isn't the problem. It's the 900 watt night signal with WYLL Chicago aimed right at them. Some nights, WYLL is better in Cincinnati than the Florence station. This time of year, only midday is at 5000 watts for the whole time period. A lot of mornings and afternoons are low power with Chicago pounding in.

WKRC does fine with 5000 day and 1000 night, but on a better frequency and a LOT less interference.
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Well.... mornings before 8 and afternoons after 5.

Look for YLL to start using their Auxiliary daytime pattern soon. It works almost as well as their current daytime site, with less power. Then, they can sell that day site in Des Plains for a mint. I think that the tower site is owned by Stu and Ed, the founders of Salem. If all of this happens, WQRT will enjoy less interference. We'll see.
 
jry said:
spm1036 said:
1160's 5000 watt day signal isn't the problem. It's the 900 watt night signal with WYLL Chicago aimed right at them. Some nights, WYLL is better in Cincinnati than the Florence station. This time of year, only midday is at 5000 watts for the whole time period. A lot of mornings and afternoons are low power with Chicago pounding in.

WKRC does fine with 5000 day and 1000 night, but on a better frequency and a LOT less interference.
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Well.... mornings before 8 and afternoons after 5.

Look for YLL to start using their Auxiliary daytime pattern soon. It works almost as well as their current daytime site, with less power. Then, they can sell that day site in Des Plains for a mint. I think that the tower site is owned by Stu and Ed, the founders of Salem. If all of this happens, WQRT will enjoy less interference. We'll see.
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Question is why would YLL give up its 50,000 watt daytime signal to move to its auillary Day pattern. wouldnt that give them less coverage area of chicago during the day. and with the fact that 1160 is a class B Clear station if i recall right. Like WOWO did on 1190 when it gave up its 50,000 at night for the new york station. WYLL wont be able to get back the 50,000 during the day of its current main pattern which in reality could give WQRT a chance to possibly power up a bit more during the day or at least a better Pattern during the daytime hours
 
but usually once you give up your clear channel protection al beit they were subordante to KSL in Salt Lake City., but since they are a former class 1-AA Clear. they give up the 50K even during the day is gonna cost them their protection if they ever wanted to go back to the 50K signal during the day some how.
 
As I recall WYLL )ex WJJD) was a daytimer (limited hours as they could stay on until KSL sundown). They don't have a special level of clear channel protection.
 
borderblaster said:
As I recall WYLL )ex WJJD) was a daytimer (limited hours as they could stay on until KSL sundown). They don't have a special level of clear channel protection.
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Al true. They do not enjoy "clear channel" protection or coverage. They did some fancy footwork with a Canadian 1160 and the Cincy market 1160.
Moving day operations to the Joliet site gives them all of Chicago and gives 1160, WQRT some relief, especially in "critical hours".
Like i mentioned before, i think 25KW will get the job done.
 
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