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Further news on Ford

Again anonymous


>I find this bit of news to be very very troubling. It also adds to my
>growing fears that while it "seemed like a good idea at the time" spending
>$250,000 to upgrade our signal to HD was a HUGE waste of time and money.
>Sure, we did some much needed upgrading of our transmitter site, beefed up
>the infrastructure and wiring, but I think we could have done it for less
>than a 1/4 mil.

Yes, this writer could have improved his facilities for much less.
The question is: would he have done so without someone else paying
for it? iBlock has been a tremendous incentive to spend money. That, I
believe, is going to be its legacy.

I doesn't surprise me that the Ford fiction is coming to light. Most
of the press releases on this technology have been heavy on hype and
light on honesty. Any of us who have dealt with manufacturers knows
that the tiniest extra cost can doom a product. With the alleged
royalty claimed to be as high as $40 per radio it makes it a
non-starter. I think the uncertainty of future emissions and mileage
standards makes expenditures on technology not demanded by consumers
a dangerous road. With auto companies shedding loads to stay afloat
this is a very low priority. In my part of the country cars equipped
with this technology will be returned for replacement of a defective
radio that's not defective, just deaf. That's very expensive for a dealer.

>It would be less than kind to suggest that we're being taken for a ride on
>this, but with virtually no interest from consumers and no support from
>industry leaders, it sure feels that way.

There certainly is no interest from consumers - even less than a year
ago. The nearly complete lack of promotion beyond the use of
distressed radio inventory isn't going to inspire interest in many.
Advertising 101 says you use a media mix to roll out a product. The
$630 million claimed for advertising is funny money, not actual cash
spent in TV and print. Or even on in-store displays.

The industry association repeatedly trails Geico as the leading radio
advertiser. The difference is that Geigo is actually paying for the
spots. The strangest part of all this is that the industry
association and the manufacturer are owned, for the most part, by
major broadcasters.

Consumers usually need a Sherpa Guide just to find the radio in a
store. Once found, it usually isn't plugged in. Yes, you've been
taken for a ride, just not in a Ford.
 
Yes: so much for the unwarranted hyperbole from just 60 days ago to the effect that Ford was "committing" to HD Radio by making it available as a dealer-installed option.

Ford has followed that with an announcement that HD will NOT be featured in any marketing-meaningful fashion in its 2009 vehicles, while sat-radio and enhanced audio packages will be promoted as options. While HD will still be available it will come only as part of a $500 option package unlikely to be purchased by anyone other than a small and narrow clientele.

It's one step forward, two back, for HD implementation.
 
Savage said:
Yes: so much for the unwarranted hyperbole from just 60 days ago to the effect that Ford was "committing" to HD Radio by making it available as a dealer-installed option.

What am I missing. It was announced it was a dealer installed option. It still is.

Ford has followed that with an announcement that HD will NOT be featured in any marketing-meaningful fashion in its 2009 vehicles, while sat-radio and enhanced audio packages will be promoted as options. While HD will still be available it will come only as part of a $500 option package...

Oh I get it. It was an option before and now it's been "Downgraded" to an option.

It's one step forward, two back, for HD implementation.

What is the step back?

Clouseau
 
The step back: the time-honored concept in business that, if you're not growing, you're dying.

This is acutely true in adoption of any new technical standard. And the more ambitious the implementation, the more aggressive the growth curve has to be for success. In the case of HD the ultimate goal iBiquity and proponents are trying to achieve, is nothing less than changing every radio broadcast transmission system and radio receiver to a new digital standard. That's something like a cumulative billion points of distribution and consumption.

The point here is the gaposis which exists between the hyperbole projected last fall over Ford's offering HD as an option, versus what appears to be the company's real commitment to HD.

Which in turn appears to be: zero.
 
Savage said:
The step back: the time-honored concept in business that, if you're not growing, you're dying.

Boy there's a recurrent theme. Talk about "What have you done for me lately.

75 days ago - HD radio not available in Ford vehicles.

60 days ago - HD radio IS available as an option in Ford Vehiclees.

Today - HD radio is available in Ford vehicles but is not standard.

The point here is the gaposis which exists between the hyperbole projected last fall over Ford's offering HD as an option, versus what appears to be the company's real commitment to HD.

Which in turn appears to be: zero.

Here's a thought. You don't offer an option when your commitment is zero. I would say your commitment to HD radio is Zero. Is it a WYSL option?

Clouseau
 
Tsk, tsk, Inspector - there you go bringing WYSL into the equation. But I don't mind responding to this one.

If there was a way I could make money with HD (as opposed to having it threaten my livelihood by destroying my signal) I'd sell it all day long. I can't. So I don't. Apparently, Ford isn't really confident of their ability to do so either, or they'd get behind IBOC.

The availability of ANYthing as an "option" is a semantic issue, and all the more so if the "option" is "dealer installed." It's well-known that car dealers will do anything to your new ride if your check clears the bank: you can have hot-pink metal-flake paint, have Superfly accessories like a big gross Parthenon grille and gold-plated gewgaws hung all over it, Texas longhorn hood ornament, and a horn that plays Dixie. Tell 'em what you want and peel off the hundreds, and on it goes, no matter how absurd.

Nobody would seriously argue that such "options" are likely to enjoy widespread use. I would argue: neither is HD Radio given its cost-to-benefit ratio.
 
Savage said:
It's well-known that car dealers will do anything to your new ride if your check clears the bank: you can have hot-pink metal-flake paint...
Nobody would seriously argue that such "options" are likely to enjoy widespread use.

C'mon now. No one would argue that you can get almost anything as a "Dealer Installed" option. But this is a variation of a RADIO. Radios have been dealer installed options since forever. If you only wanted the low end model - no sweat. You want a nice one, they swap it out. They are basically factory radios.

Yes you could probably find a dealer that would install a short wave or mini disk radio, but that's certainly not the case here. They are a offering a manufacturer approved option, not repainting the car pink.

To say their commitment or interest is "Zero" is just wrong. Now their commitment to in dash Mini Disk is probably zero.

Yet anyone who doesn't instanly spew anti HD vitriol 24 hours a day is the one who gets branded with "Hyperbole". :)

Sheesh, it's like you seel stuff for a living. :)

Clouseau
 
I didn't say Ford's "interest" was zero. I said its "commitment" is zero. By definition that means that Ford can move quietly and easily towards the exit in the event HD Radio tanks with utterly no financial risk, which is precisely the company's posture at this juncture. You don't see a companywide effort consisting of sales materials, training and dealer-salesperson incentives to push HD, on the order of how car manufacturer-dealer networks promote XM or Sirius. With Ford HD is just kinda there if you want it, and it's marketed as part of a low-demand options platform.

Whether someone is arguing the case that "HD is seriously flawed," or "spewing anti-HD vitriol 24 hours a day" is evidently a matter of perspective. Not to say sensitivity.
 
StephanieNYC said:
It took the FCC playing "social engineer" for FM to be installed in cars.

Maybe they might/should do the same with HD?

Yeah. And as the FCC mandates HD radio in cars, they ought to include FmXtra, CAM-D, shortwave radio, weather radio, CB radio and police band radio as well.

Just as there was no need to mandate cell phones, there is no need for the FCC or any kind of "alliance" to push wireless Internet access (including Internet radio) into automobiles.
 
vsa said:
Yeah. And as the FCC mandates HD radio in cars, they ought to include FmXtra, CAM-D, shortwave radio, weather radio, CB radio and police band radio as well.

Just as there was no need to mandate cell phones, there is no need for the FCC or any kind of "alliance" to push wireless Internet access (including Internet radio) into automobiles.

Not saying I agree with it, or am wishing for it. I'm just thinking that's probably what it's going to take to get HD radio to get entrenched.
Look at Congress and DTV.

Personally, I think any technology should stand or fall on its own merits (or lack thereof), not be rammed down our throats by some anonymous bureau-crazy.
 
StephanieNYC said:
vsa said:
Yeah. And as the FCC mandates HD radio in cars, they ought to include FmXtra, CAM-D, shortwave radio, weather radio, CB radio and police band radio as well.

Just as there was no need to mandate cell phones, there is no need for the FCC or any kind of "alliance" to push wireless Internet access (including Internet radio) into automobiles.

Not saying I agree with it, or am wishing for it. I'm just thinking that's probably what it's going to take to get HD radio to get entrenched.


Personally, I think any technology should stand or fall on its own merits (or lack thereof), not be rammed down our throats by some anonymous bureau-crazy.

I agree 100% and you meant get iBlock out of the trench didn't you? The only way it would ever get entrenched it for the FCC to mandate it like it did with TV which also should have never been done. I have an HD TV and couldn't care less, I won't pay the lousy extra ten bucks to get HD and there's no reception problems with it for most people unless their still using an antenna. They are the ones who are getting screwed in that deal. The FCC is forcing them to either buy a new TV, subscribe to satellite or get cable if it is available in their area
 
StephanieNYC said:
vsa said:
Yeah. And as the FCC mandates HD radio in cars, they ought to include FmXtra, CAM-D, shortwave radio, weather radio, CB radio and police band radio as well.

Just as there was no need to mandate cell phones, there is no need for the FCC or any kind of "alliance" to push wireless Internet access (including Internet radio) into automobiles.

Not saying I agree with it, or am wishing for it. I'm just thinking that's probably what it's going to take to get HD radio to get entrenched.
Look at Congress and DTV.

Personally, I think any technology should stand or fall on its own merits (or lack thereof), not be rammed down our throats by some anonymous bureau-crazy.

I agree with you.

The fact that few people buy standalone radios anymore should be troubling to those of us who earn our living in radio. The idea that an FCC mandate would be needed to get HD radio out of its coffin says it all.

How is it that our "show business" has become so dominated by cost-cutting bean counters and lawyers that we have to look to Apple's Steve Jobs in hopes that some "coolness" will rub off onto HD radio by way of iTunes tagging. It should be the other way around!
 
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