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Furthest AM stations in Philly

Re: Most powerful AM stations in Philly

phils07 said:
Don C said:
KYW 1060 and WPHT 1210 are both 50,000 watts.

Actually, what station goes the furthest on AM?

I would think that WPHT/1210 would be the most effective AM signal in the Philadelphia market with its' 50,000 watts, non-directional pattern. KYW/1060 uses a figure-8 pattern with a major null to the northeast and a smaller null to the southwest. KYW basically has no signal toward New York and New England to protect WEPN/1050 in New York City (formerly WHN, WMGM, WHN, WFAN, WUKQ and WEVD). As for WIP/610, WFIL/560, WPEN/950 and so on..... the smaller stations have more co-channel interferencethan that of the big guns.
 
It all depends. When I drive into Central Pa, I get a much better signal on WFIL and WIP than from either of the blow torches.
 
Re: Most powerful AM stations in Philly

Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
I would think that WPHT/1210 would be the most effective AM signal in the Philadelphia market with its' 50,000 watts, non-directional pattern. KYW/1060 uses a figure-8 pattern with a major null to the northeast and a smaller null to the southwest. KYW basically has no signal toward New York and New England to protect WEPN/1050 in New York City (formerly WHN, WMGM, WHN, WFAN, WUKQ and WEVD).

The radio-locator maps, which are usually pretty close, agree with you.
 
Re: Most powerful AM stations in Philly

Don C said:
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
I would think that WPHT/1210 would be the most effective AM signal in the Philadelphia market with its' 50,000 watts, non-directional pattern. KYW/1060 uses a figure-8 pattern with a major null to the northeast and a smaller null to the southwest. KYW basically has no signal toward New York and New England to protect WEPN/1050 in New York City (formerly WHN, WMGM, WHN, WFAN, WUKQ and WEVD).

The radio-locator maps, which are usually pretty close, agree with you.

I have heard a Phillies game at night in The Forks, Maine while camping on 1210 back when it was WCAU.
 
Re: Most powerful AM stations in Philly

Bill_W said:
Don C said:
Peter Q. George (K1XRB) said:
I would think that WPHT/1210 would be the most effective AM signal in the Philadelphia market with its' 50,000 watts, non-directional pattern. KYW/1060 uses a figure-8 pattern with a major null to the northeast and a smaller null to the southwest. KYW basically has no signal toward New York and New England to protect WEPN/1050 in New York City (formerly WHN, WMGM, WHN, WFAN, WUKQ and WEVD).

The radio-locator maps, which are usually pretty close, agree with you.

I have heard a Phillies game at night in The Forks, Maine while camping on 1210 back when it was WCAU.
I used to love listening to WCAU/1210 while vacationing in the Lakes Region of New Hampshire back in the '70's. They used to run The CBS Radio Mystery Theater, every night. That killer signal from Philly really came in "like Gangbusters" throughout the area at night. My late Mom also used to listen to the talk shows on 'CAU back in the day while we vacationed up in NH as well. That was one great station in its' day.

I believe the late William S. Paley (Mr. CBS himself) used to have a resort home in the Lakes Region as well. Soooooo..... I'm sure Mr. Paley was a regular listener to both WCAU/1210 and WCBS/880 as well ;) ! He did try to buy WXPO-TV/50 in Manchester, NH to get a local CBS affiliate available for him to watch as well. It never consummated.
 
KYW, WFIL, and WIP all have a superior signal to WCAU to the northwest. WFIL and WIP also have a better signal to the southeast. However, best all around signal is WPHT.... 50,000 watts non directional and on a clear channel.
 
I remember the then-WCAU 1210 roaring into Rhode Island after sunset, and clobbering the 1220 in Providence just before it would go off at night. Can also recall listening during the WOGL-AM days.
 
I remember picking up WCAU clearly in Jacksonville, Florida many years ago. These days I'm nearby but wouldn't bother tuning to 1210.
 
I used to live in Harrisburg. KYW and WIP were actually listenable at times... nothing else from Philly makes it. Once you head east on the turnpike into Lebanon county KYW and WIP come in clearer and you can start to receive WPHT. I always enjoyed trying to receive KYW .. I wish they didn't have a null and had a better signal out in Central PA.

WFIL is blasted out by WHP in the Harrisburg area.
 
In 1979 I was surprised to pick up WIP with a pretty good signal in the Pittsburgh airport. (Even more surprising, I couldn't get KQV at all that night.) I even got WIP in Chicago once back around then, but WCAU and KYW were the Philly stations you could get regularly out there. Both came in decently but KYW sometimes suffered from interference from another 1060 (New Orleans, I think).
 
Living now in central Florida, I follow the Phillies largely on the Internet with MLB's audio services. But occasionally, those late-night games from the west coast are on too late - starting around the time I'm usually headed for bed. So I'll occasionally keep tabs on the team with a little Walkman radio and tune in 1210. There are times when it comes in well enough to actually follow the game, other times it's buried in the hash and I'm lucky to get an intelligible score at the close of each half-inning.

I have to rotate the radio just so in order to filter out the other stuff on the frequency, usually Spanish music, probably coming from Cuba.
 
You can get 1210 WPHT at night in Atlanta as well. I spent the summer there about 10 years ago and used to enjoy hearing the Phillies games at night on 1210. I have a friend who lives there now, who was from Philly and I put him on to that. He does tune in at night to get his Philly fix as he listens to the Phillies in the summer. Too bad for him that the Eagles aren't on 1210, because he can't get 610 WIP or 94.1 WYSP there.

Back in 1969 I was in Emporia Kansas and Kansas City Mo and unfortunately you can't get Philly's 1210 signal there.
 
I've done the test ride all over the country. WPHT travels east to west the furthest no doubt. I was driving monitoring heading out west, and I picked it up as far as Bartlesville, Oklahoma heading toward Tulsa. It will cover as far as the northeast portion of the state. This was done on a car radio back when manufacturers put better guts inside them for AM. It couldn't get out much futher then Tulsa area if so, due to a station on the same frequency in Guyman which is located in the western panhandle of the state. KYW travels further in south direction because it is directional but still can be heard as far as Miami, Fla area. WPHT could possibly travel as far non directionally, but with the FCC given former daytimers and other increasing night signals over the years which would make it most likely impossible.
 
Although it has lots of noise, you can get WPHT in NE Jersey at night and that's about it......WPEN is pretty much unlistenable and WIP has interference from WSNR......I have received KYW before but being only 10 miles north of the WEPN transmitter site it was a complete mess.
 
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