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Furthest east AM Log From Alaska

SomeRadioGuy

SomeRadioGuy

You'd think given my DXing prowess and the "because it's Alaska" propagation rules being different, the farthest east AM station I'd have heard would be Toronto, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, NYC or Boston.. right? Wrong!

3 years ago it was and still remains CFAJ 1220 St Catharines, Ontario. Wether they were operating non directionally with program test authority or whatever their day/night patterns are, this signal blew me away.

The music in the clip is all CFAJ and a little after 1 minute you'll hear the CFAJ Jingle:

CFAJ-AM 1220 St. Catharines, Ont. Can Thu Feb 21, 2021 1026pm AK Time.mp3

Someone might say what about the UK? Not possible, it was light going east when I've heard the UK
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
You'd think given my DXing prowess and the "because it's Alaska" propagation rules being different, the farthest east AM station I'd have heard would be Toronto, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, NYC or Boston.. right? Wrong!

3 years ago it was and still remains CFAJ 1220 St Catharines, Ontario. Wether they were operating non directionally with program test authority or whatever their day/night patterns are, this signal blew me away.

The music in the clip is all CFAJ and a little after 1 minute you'll hear the CFAJ Jingle:

CFAJ-AM 1220 St. Catharines, Ont. Can Thu Feb 21, 2021 1026pm AK Time.mp3

Someone might say what about the UK? Not possible, it was light going east when I've heard the UK
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1220 CFAJ St. Catherines, 10,000 watts with a directional antenna. The signal must be VERY directional, with Cleveland having a 50,000 watt station also on 1220. They're only 200 miles apart.

So what are the fairly reliable stations from the contiguous U.S. in Alaska apart from the West Coast stations? Do you get the Chicago stations regularly, 670, 720, 780, 890? Maybe 840 Louisville or 650 Nashville or 1120 St. Louis? Or do some of the Alaska A (formerly I-N) stations block many of the clear channel stations from the Central and Eastern Time Zones?
 
Gregg. said:
1220 CFAJ St. Catherines, 10,000 watts with a directional antenna. The signal must be VERY directional, with Cleveland having a 50,000 watt station also on 1220. They're only 200 miles apart.

So what are the fairly reliable stations from the contiguous U.S. in Alaska apart from the West Coast stations? Do you get the Chicago stations regularly, 670, 720, 780, 890? Maybe 840 Louisville or 650 Nashville or 1120 St. Louis? Or do some of the Alaska A (formerly I-N) stations block many of the clear channel stations from the Central and Eastern Time Zones?
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The only chicago station ive heard is WYLL 1160 and the only detroit station iuve heard is WFDF 910.

i have very strong locals on all the frequencies you mentioned.......
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
The only chicago station ive heard is WYLL 1160 and the only detroit station iuve heard is WFDF 910.

i have very strong locals on all the frequencies you mentioned.......
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Odd that 1160 would be the one CHI station, given all the clears there.
 
Dondd said:
Odd that 1160 would be the one CHI station, given all the clears there.
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not really.. 910 and 1160 beam north.. pretty sure this was over the pole reception
 
Chicago "clears" aren't really clear in AK.

670 obscured by 10kW Dillingham
720- 10kW Kotzebue
780- 25kW Nome
890- 10kW Homer
1000- 50kW Seattle

And as Paul said, they likely have to go "over-the-top" to get there, where even in quiet times there will be some auroral activity.
 
The New Chico said:
670 obscured by 10kW Dillingham
720- 10kW Kotzebue
780- 25kW Nome
890- 10kW Homer
1000- 50kW Seattle
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None of those are really strong, or even present, or regularly heard here in central TX.
Of those, 780 is usually the strongest, followed by 670, which fights for a Mexican, which often overpowers it. Even KLTT Denver can overpower 670.

890 is 3rd, and often comes in good, but not always. The other 2 are usually better.

720, my favorite because of local hosts like Rollie James, is the weakest. A Mexican station often overpowers it. 720 is rarely heard clearly here anymore.

A shortcoming of 720 is its carrying Bill Cunningham on Sunday nights. He is the dictionary definition of "angry white man." The program is carried on so many stations already and not fitting for a city-grade clear signal.
 
The New Chico said:
Chicago "clears" aren't really clear in AK.

670 obscured by 10kW Dillingham
720- 10kW Kotzebue
780- 25kW Nome
890- 10kW Homer
1000- 50kW Seattle

And as Paul said, they likely have to go "over-the-top" to get there, where even in quiet times there will be some auroral activity.
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We have several clear channels up here in alaska, some less then 50kw and some on the same channels as lower 48 clears
Dondd said:
None of those are really strong, or even present, or regularly heard here in central TX.
Of those, 780 is usually the strongest, followed by 670, which fights for a Mexican, which often overpowers it. Even KLTT Denver can overpower 670.

890 is 3rd, and often comes in good, but not always. The other 2 are usually better.

720, my favorite because of local hosts like Rollie James, is the weakest. A Mexican station often overpowers it. 720 is rarely heard clearly here anymore.

A shortcoming of 720 is its carrying Bill Cunningham on Sunday nights. He is the dictionary definition of "angry white man." The program is carried on so many stations already and not fitting for a city-grade clear signal.
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well youve never heard anything from alaska in texas.. and not a great fit for city grade clear channel ... says who.. you? good think you dont program stations

as much as i dislike angry white man radio, that conservative stuff is hot now and it sells
 
Dondd said:
A shortcoming of 720 is its carrying Bill Cunningham on Sunday nights. He is the dictionary definition of "angry white man." The program is carried on so many stations already and not fitting for a city-grade clear signal.
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Keep in mind that very few people listen to distant stations. Today the advantage of higher power lies in the ability to overcome local man-made interference in the stations on the market. Practically no station is able to sell advertising based on listenership in a separate and distinct market

For example, the Los Angeles radio stations in their majority cover the Riverside San Bernardino market and get very good ratings in many cases. However, nearly none of those stations even subscribers to that other market ratings because they cannot sell any advertising based on that additional listening. Local Riverside Accounts will not pay Los Angeles rates. Advertising agencies by markets individually, and generally do not give any advantage to out of market coverage; in the best of cases agencies consider that a free bonus.

So, when you see many stations that seem to overlap somewhat in coverage carrying the same program, you need to know that the revenue source for each local station is strictly in its own license to market and not 100 miles down the road
 
Dondd said:
720, my favorite because of local hosts like Rollie James, is the weakest. A Mexican station often overpowers it. 720 is rarely heard clearly here anymore.
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Are you aware that Rollie does her show from rural Arizona and not Chicago? In fact, she owns an AM and FM station in a smaller market there and divides her time between the local stations and WGN.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
says who.. you? good think you dont program stations

as much as i dislike angry white man radio, that conservative stuff is hot now and it sells
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Says me, and many others, online. Listeners do notice and call-out the barrage of highly partisan one-sided "broadcasting" that replaced programming that in the past had more of a balance.

Sure, a conservative show would air but so would a liberal or moderate. And radio wasn't all conservative politics all the time, like it is now.

I listen to so-called "talk radio" and use to be a hardcore listener, until I left the plantation and realized the hosts are only talking in a bubble.

In fact, Americans identifying themselves as "conservative" are about 40%, 25% "liberal," with each political party constituting about 27% of the electorate, with Dems. a little higher.
So there are more Dems. than Repubs, according to surveys.

Get that? Conservatives are nowhere near a "majority" of the American public. Yet you'd never know that listening to 18-24 hours a day of nonstop unbalanced political talk.

Hosts, like Bruce Dumont, who for years hosted Outside the Beltway from Chicago, use to often say the talk radio audience and its callers in no way represent reality.
 
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SomeRadioGuy said:
not really.. 910 and 1160 beam north.. pretty sure this was over the pole reception
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Well, not all of us are familiar with Alaska's geographic orientation from Chicago.
 
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