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Fybush on FB: WMSX wants to move to Dedham

raccoonradio

raccoonradio

from Facebook by Scott Fybush: "So long, Brockton: Alex Langer is applying to move WMSX (1410) to Dedham, with 610 watts daytime, 25 watts at night from a Valcom whip antenna on Sprague Street in Readville. More in the next NERW..."

So far no CP "approx signal" map on radio-locator but this news just broke...
 
PSAIRCHECKS said:
Maybe they will program some con talk or prog talk. WOWIE.
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I believe that Langer's WFYL licensed to King of Prussia PA, west of Philadelphia, was, at one time, broadcasting conservative talk. IIRC the talk was to the right of what you could hear on CBS's 50-kW WPHT, which is just up the dial from WFYL. But WPHT doesn't appear to lean anywhere near as far right as does WRKO in this market. In any event, if Langer can't broker out WMSX to some foreigh-language broadcaster (as he is doing--very successfully--at WSRO 650, licensed to Ashland), I think he is likely to opt for conservative talk on 1410. Another possibility is an urban format, which is what he did on his daytimer on 660 in Pittsburgh. In Pittsburgh, however, I believe he sold the station even before the urban programming went on the air.
 
ThatGuyOnTheRadio said:
HD Ready said:
Wow! This is HUGE!
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BREAKING NEWS! TEAM COVERAGE! LIVE, LOCAL, LATE BREAKING! HOLY SH**!
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In all seriousness, many on this board keep saying that AM is dying, and some would say it is already dead. If that is the case, why would radio station owners spend the money and fight the NIMBY crowd to move an AM station.

How long does it take the ROI to overcome the expense of the move-in?
 
Readville (Hyde Park) is close proximity to Boston's urban neighborhoods where there are probably some (daytime) listeners to the "Mia" Spanish music format on 1430 WKOX. I wonder if CC would object to this application for a second-adjacent at 1410 in the area?
 
hmm...the 1430 stick is just S of route 16 Medford, nr Assembly SQ...

https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=42.403056,+-71.074722+(WKOX-AM)&om=1
 
Eli Polonsky said:
Readville (Hyde Park) is close proximity to Boston's urban neighborhoods where there are probably some (daytime) listeners to the "Mia" Spanish music format on 1430 WKOX. I wonder if CC would object to this application for a second-adjacent at 1410 in the area?
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On what grounds? The rules say that second-adjacent AMs can't have their respective 5 mV/m contours overlap, and the application shows plenty of separation between the new WMSX's 5 and WKOX's 5, which don't quite touch somewhere in the middle of Roxbury.

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101552064&qnum=5120&copynum=1&exhcnum=4
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
That's what I'm beginning to think, too.

A lease deal for "Touch 1410".
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Somehow, I doubt that "Touch" wants to lease time, or move to AM. They seem to be operating under a delusion that they're somehow legal, or at least trying to convince everyone else of that.

Also, the 25 watt night signal from this application may not even cover Roxbury all that well given all the nighttime background noise (mainly from WPOP Hartford) on the frequency. I could see it covering well in Hyde Park (of course) and Mattapan, West Roxbury, Roslindale, and the south sides of J.P. and Dorchester, but by north Dorchester and Roxbury it may begin to get compromised, and by the South End and Boston proper the night signal would probably be "in the mud" most nights.

The day signal would not be a "full-market" Boston signal either. I'd guess it would be strong in all ofthe Boston urban neighborhoods listed above, as well as in the south suburbs along Route 128 such as Needham, Dedham, Westwood, Norwood, Milton, Canton, Quincy, Braintree, etc... (though maybe weakening a bit toward the coast) and also in the south sides of Newton and Brookline south of Route 9.

I'm guessing it may weaken a bit by Boston's South End, and that in downtown Boston it may fade in and out among the buildings and be susceptible to electrical interference in the city. Across the Charles River (from Cambridge northward, etc...) it may be listenable but not prominent on the dial, and maybe not very consistent in a car. It may be a just weak fringe by Route 128 north of Boston. Around Medford, Everett, Chelsea, Charlestown it may get some second-adjacent noise from WKOX's IBOC.

Given this kind of a (possible) signal, I would think that brokered/leased programming by and for Boston's urban ethnic communities, and any organizations in the south suburbs along 128, would probably be the most practical use for it.
 
Not "it may get some noise from 1430's IBOC", but it WILL get swamped by the hash generator on 1430 anywhere near it.
 
610w day/ 25w night into a Valcom on a rimshot 1410 unable to deliver 5 mV to Roxbury; correct?

Pretty sure CC will kill 1430's IBOC and give them a fighting chance. I mean, they killed 101.5's IBOC for 101.7's sake, right?

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raccoonradio said:
from Facebook by Scott Fybush: "So long, Brockton: Alex Langer is applying to move WMSX (1410) to Dedham, with 610 watts daytime, 25 watts at night from a Valcom whip antenna on Sprague Street in Readville. More in the next NERW..."

So far no CP "approx signal" map on radio-locator but this news just broke...
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This also would be the only AM station with its primary transmission site in Boston proper, assuming it's on the Boston side of the Readville line.

I can't imagine 610 watts at 1410 doing much, though.
 
wickedwritah said:
This also would be the only AM station with its primary transmission site in Boston proper, assuming it's on the Boston side of the Readville line. I can't imagine 610 watts at 1410 doing much, though.
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I believe that Reedville is part of Hyde Park, which is past of Boston. That would make Reedville part of Boston. If you are talking about the Reedville/Hyde Park line, just where in Reedville the line is located should not matter because, if I am correct, both sides of the line are in Boston. A lot of those old town lines are like that; for all practical purposes, the lines became immaterial back in the 19th century, when Boston swallowed a number of its suburbs. Back in the late 18th century, Roxbury (for example) was a separate town with its own government, separate from Boston's government.
 
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