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Gannett + Belo

This consolidation sh*t is getting real...

from The New York Times.

So now what to do with the situations in Phoenix and St. Louis, where both firms currently own a station (and in the case of Belo, a duopoly in Phoenix)...would some of the combined smaller market outlets (e.g. Macon, Little Rock, Tucson, Boise) get spun-off as well?
 
Those are both really good companies. Good community service, good journalism. I hope they can maintain their standards as one company.
 
They'll have a problem in Phoenix (KTVK/3 + KPNX/12 + KASW/61 + the Arizona Republic newspaper - one or more will have to be spun off, likely KTVK). I don't know if they will anywhere else, though.
 
They will almost certainly run into issues in St. Louis (Belo owns KMOV-4, Gannett owns KSDK-5), but from the way it sounds, Gannett will try to at least operate both stations until their hand is forced.
 
KeithE4 said:
They'll have a problem in Phoenix (KTVK/3 + KPNX/12 + KASW/61 + the Arizona Republic newspaper - one or more will have to be spun off, likely KTVK). I don't know if they will anywhere else, though.

Gannett also publishes newspapers in Tucson, Louisville, and Salem, Ore., in markets where Belo has a TV station. Something will have to be done about that as well.
 
Rollo-Smokes said:
KeithE4 said:
They'll have a problem in Phoenix (KTVK/3 + KPNX/12 + KASW/61 + the Arizona Republic newspaper - one or more will have to be spun off, likely KTVK). I don't know if they will anywhere else, though.

Gannett also publishes newspapers in Tucson, Louisville, and Salem, Ore., in markets where Belo has a TV station. Something will have to be done about that as well.

They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.
 
KeithE4 said:
They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.

I was under the assumption that it was still in publication...should have double-checked. Thanks for that correction.

One other note: Gannett's Louisville paper, the Courier-Journal, was the founding owner of Belo's WHAS-TV. The two were split back in '86. Would be interesting if the Feds allowed a waiver and the pair were reunited under Gannett ownership.

nomadcowatbk said:
Which St. Louis station is sold and who gets is? They can't operate both the #1 and #2 stations

Maybe this creates an opening for CBS to reacquire KMOV and turn it back into KMOX-TV?
 
Rollo-Smokes said:
KeithE4 said:
They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.

I was under the assumption that it was still in publication...should have double-checked. Thanks for that correction.

One other note: Gannett's Louisville paper, the Courier-Journal, was the founding owner of Belo's WHAS-TV. The two were split back in '86. Would be interesting if the Feds allowed a waiver and the pair were reunited under Gannett ownership.

nomadcowatbk said:
Which St. Louis station is sold and who gets is? They can't operate both the #1 and #2 stations

Maybe this creates an opening for CBS to reacquire KMOV and turn it back into KMOX-TV?

CBS doesn't seem be interested in owning stations outside of the top 20
 
When the deal closes, the ABC affiliates will be Cox, the NBC affiliates will be Gannett and the Fox affilates will be O&O in both Charlotte and Atlanta.
 
nomadcowatbk said:
Rollo-Smokes said:
KeithE4 said:
They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.

I was under the assumption that it was still in publication...should have double-checked. Thanks for that correction.

One other note: Gannett's Louisville paper, the Courier-Journal, was the founding owner of Belo's WHAS-TV. The two were split back in '86. Would be interesting if the Feds allowed a waiver and the pair were reunited under Gannett ownership.

nomadcowatbk said:
Which St. Louis station is sold and who gets is? They can't operate both the #1 and #2 stations

Maybe this creates an opening for CBS to reacquire KMOV and turn it back into KMOX-TV?

CBS doesn't seem be interested in owning stations outside of the top 20

CBS does have Pittsburgh and Baltimore, which are both near similiar-sized (but smaller) markets to St. Louis. Also, correct me if wrong, but don't KMOV and KMOX still share the same broadcast facility in downtown St. Louis, even after the two split up in the mid-80s?
 
ShawnHill1 said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Rollo-Smokes said:
KeithE4 said:
They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.

I was under the assumption that it was still in publication...should have double-checked. Thanks for that correction.

One other note: Gannett's Louisville paper, the Courier-Journal, was the founding owner of Belo's WHAS-TV. The two were split back in '86. Would be interesting if the Feds allowed a waiver and the pair were reunited under Gannett ownership.

nomadcowatbk said:
Which St. Louis station is sold and who gets is? They can't operate both the #1 and #2 stations

Maybe this creates an opening for CBS to reacquire KMOV and turn it back into KMOX-TV?

CBS doesn't seem be interested in owning stations outside of the top 20

CBS does have Pittsburgh and Baltimore, which are both near similiar-sized (but smaller) markets to St. Louis. Also, correct me if wrong, but don't KMOV and KMOX still share the same broadcast facility in downtown St. Louis, even after the two split up in the mid-80s?
Worth noting that Pittsburgh and Baltimore are AFC markets. St. Louis is an NFC market.
 
ShawnHill1 said:
Also, correct me if wrong, but don't KMOV and KMOX still share the same broadcast facility in downtown St. Louis, even after the two split up in the mid-80s?

They did, until last year. KMOX moved out of the Memorial Drive studios and into its own facility last Fall.
 
About Tucson:

Expect a divestiture of the Tucson stations to American Spirit Media (Raycom's shell company) and another shell, simply because Belo has ceded operational control of its stations there.

About Phoenix and St. Louis:

Something needs to give. Otherwise, there are a bunch of people in both cities that are going to be without jobs, and St. Louis will have two separate TV news voices (4+5+30, 2+11).
 
Morgan Wick said:
ShawnHill1 said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Rollo-Smokes said:
KeithE4 said:
They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.

I was under the assumption that it was still in publication...should have double-checked. Thanks for that correction.

One other note: Gannett's Louisville paper, the Courier-Journal, was the founding owner of Belo's WHAS-TV. The two were split back in '86. Would be interesting if the Feds allowed a waiver and the pair were reunited under Gannett ownership.

nomadcowatbk said:
Which St. Louis station is sold and who gets is? They can't operate both the #1 and #2 stations

Maybe this creates an opening for CBS to reacquire KMOV and turn it back into KMOX-TV?

CBS doesn't seem be interested in owning stations outside of the top 20

CBS does have Pittsburgh and Baltimore, which are both near similiar-sized (but smaller) markets to St. Louis. Also, correct me if wrong, but don't KMOV and KMOX still share the same broadcast facility in downtown St. Louis, even after the two split up in the mid-80s?
Worth noting that Pittsburgh and Baltimore are AFC markets. St. Louis is an NFC market.

but for how much longer? ;D
 
Morgan Wick said:
ShawnHill1 said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Rollo-Smokes said:
KeithE4 said:
They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.

I was under the assumption that it was still in publication...should have double-checked. Thanks for that correction.

One other note: Gannett's Louisville paper, the Courier-Journal, was the founding owner of Belo's WHAS-TV. The two were split back in '86. Would be interesting if the Feds allowed a waiver and the pair were reunited under Gannett ownership.

nomadcowatbk said:
Which St. Louis station is sold and who gets is? They can't operate both the #1 and #2 stations

Maybe this creates an opening for CBS to reacquire KMOV and turn it back into KMOX-TV?

CBS doesn't seem be interested in owning stations outside of the top 20

CBS does have Pittsburgh and Baltimore, which are both near similiar-sized (but smaller) markets to St. Louis. Also, correct me if wrong, but don't KMOV and KMOX still share the same broadcast facility in downtown St. Louis, even after the two split up in the mid-80s?
Worth noting that Pittsburgh and Baltimore are AFC markets. St. Louis is an NFC market.

Fox seems be interested in having O&Os in AFC markets, CBS seems less interested in having O&Os in AFC markets
 
Raymie said:
About Tucson:

Expect a divestiture of the Tucson stations to American Spirit Media (Raycom's shell company) and another shell, simply because Belo has ceded operational control of its stations there.

About Phoenix and St. Louis:

Something needs to give. Otherwise, there are a bunch of people in both cities that are going to be without jobs, and St. Louis will have two separate TV news voices (4+5+30, 2+11).

With station will they gut in STL if they're allowed to run two stations? If they're forced to sell one, which one gets sold and who'd be interested?
 
KeithE4 said:
They'll have a problem in Phoenix (KTVK/3 + KPNX/12 + KASW/61 + the Arizona Republic newspaper - one or more will have to be spun off, likely KTVK). I don't know if they will anywhere else, though.
We were just talking in another thread (whose main topic, I believe, was precisely about why the "good" station groups weren't gobbling up stations like Sinclair) about the effect of the Young/Media General merger on KRON. What would happen if KTVK were to be spun off to someone else?
 
nomadcowatbk said:
Morgan Wick said:
ShawnHill1 said:
nomadcowatbk said:
Rollo-Smokes said:
KeithE4 said:
They've owned the Republic and KPNX in Phoenix since 2000, and that's been considered OK.

Gannett shut down the Tucson Daily Citizen in 2009, so there's no problem there. Lee Enterprises (formerly Pulitzer) owns the Arizona Daily Star, which is now Tucson's only major paper.

I was under the assumption that it was still in publication...should have double-checked. Thanks for that correction.

One other note: Gannett's Louisville paper, the Courier-Journal, was the founding owner of Belo's WHAS-TV. The two were split back in '86. Would be interesting if the Feds allowed a waiver and the pair were reunited under Gannett ownership.

nomadcowatbk said:
Which St. Louis station is sold and who gets is? They can't operate both the #1 and #2 stations

Maybe this creates an opening for CBS to reacquire KMOV and turn it back into KMOX-TV?

CBS doesn't seem be interested in owning stations outside of the top 20

CBS does have Pittsburgh and Baltimore, which are both near similiar-sized (but smaller) markets to St. Louis. Also, correct me if wrong, but don't KMOV and KMOX still share the same broadcast facility in downtown St. Louis, even after the two split up in the mid-80s?
Worth noting that Pittsburgh and Baltimore are AFC markets. St. Louis is an NFC market.

Fox seems be interested in having O&Os in AFC markets, CBS seems less interested in having O&Os in AFC markets

Actually it is the other way around as FOX has the NFC and they want NFC markets and CBS has the AFC and they want AFC markets.
 
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