It's about time that a station in Nashville switches formats to Gen-X since it seems to be on it's last legs in most other markets, that way it can join Arrow and all the other "HOT" formats that Nashville stations seem to jump on after they have DIED in other markets after being the HOT format just a few months earlier. Gen-X Radio just went off the air in Kansas City and seems to floundering in several other markets. Since Nashville radio seems to wait until the format is on it's last legs in other markets before bringing said format here, I just assume that some Nashville station will switch to Gen-X since it is dead or near dead in a lot of other markets.
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Gen-X Format in Nashville
- Thread starter jwk1979
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Arrow lasted almost five years here. That's a lifetime in Nashville radio (actually several lifetimes) nowadays. Dead? Maybe now, but not back then, apparently. And they squeezed another year or so (more typical of Nashvegas) out of the same format, only this time with the ridiculous nickname "104 the Core." That name deserved to die.
firepoint525 said:
It could have been worse...they could have gone with "Beaver 104"...
Arrow may have lasted for 5 years in Nashville but it didn't last nearly that long in other markets that tried. It started in Los Angeles in 1993/94 and was the Top format in LA after a few months yet by the time 104.5 became the Arrow in 1994, Arrow was already on the way down in LA and other markets. The station that started the Arrow format in LA had dropped the format by Fall 1994.firepoint525 said:
What was the Disco format that 104.5 picked up in December 1998? It was also based on another "HOT" format in Washington, DC that only lasted about a year. Iirc, it was HISTORY in Nashville by January 2000.
Seems to me that if it lasted five years here, that it must have been a success here, at least in its day. Why change something if it's working? I seem to recall that it also didn't last long in Memphis, only about a year or so there.jwk1979 said:
You are thinking about Jammin' Hits or Groovin' Hits. It started out with one of those names, but quickly switched to the other. Can't remember which was which. 106.7 also had similar programming at about that time, and it only lasted about a year there, too.
The thing about that "Core" name (other than that bogus "contest" that came up with that name in the first place) was that it reminded me that "you don't get the whole apple, just the core." Was that the message that they wanted to send?soundsandsports said:
IIRC, 104.5 went from Kicks (pre-1983) to Rock Hits 104 (1983 to about '86, when 96 Kiss and Y-107 changed to CHR) to Classic Rock tweaks The Fox/Core/Arrow (1987-1998?) then to Groovin' Hits. Combine Fox, Core and Arrow and there was a run of 11 or so years bellbottom rock. I could not tell the difference in 104.5 music library, except that KDF had already burned through those same tunes 17 years prior.
Romer was at 104.5 for "Livestock" concert stunt. I can't recall what 104.5 called themselves at the time.
Romer was at 104.5 for "Livestock" concert stunt. I can't recall what 104.5 called themselves at the time.
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My take on 104.5 during that period: They had more nicknames than any station ever only TO PLAY THE SAME 250 SONGS.
I always thought that 104.5 The Fox was much more Rock Oriented while both the Arrow and the Core were more Pop Oriented. The Fox would play a lot of Album Cuts while Arrow and the Core were playing songs that were released as single and were Top 40 hits. Even though all three station names played alot of the same songs, there were cuts I remember hearing on the Fox that I never heard on Arrow or the Core, while there were songs played on the Arrow and the Core that I don't ever recall being played on the Fox.
courier37027 said:
still "The Fox" at that point: Leigh Jacobs was the PD
I still remember during their days as (I believe) the Core, they had a dj who, on his web page at www.104thecore.com, or whatever their website was at the time, mocked 106.7 for having four formats in four years, or something like that. Never mind that 104.5 had also had roughly the same number of formats during that same time frame. Of course, with their next change, to Rockin' Hits, or whatever they were for the last year or so before they "zoned" out, they took down that page.
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It could have been worse...they could have gone with "Beaver 104"...
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i happen to love beaver ;D
It could have been worse...they could have gone with "Beaver 104"...
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i happen to love beaver ;D
I've been listening to the River's distant cousin, KBIG 104.3 MyFM on my phone all day and really enjoy it. It's like Mix, Jack, and The River blended into one. Broken record here, but I really with Nashville had a Gen X or Hot AC station. Mix too sappy; River too teenie popper; Jack is 80% classic rock. "We had V-102..." Yeah, that was a sad excuse and no guy want's to listen to "Venus".
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I have a horrible confession, but I need to get it off my mind. I'm a guy. 56. I listened to + liked Venus. I have no hope now to ever make the Radio Listeneres' HOF. Oh, well-
V-102.5 dropped the "Venus" name during the latter part of their time as "V-102.5," but you may be right, the damage had already been done.NashvilleNative said:
We need that format on a good signal that covers all of Nashville.
Tibbs2 said:
hmmmmm...John Young is back in Nashville...hmmmmm
(I'm just making stuff up...like "The Tennessean")
Tibbs2 said:
I've been thinking the same thing. Star 97 had good momentum going for it before oldies. Surely they won't make 95 an FM classic country 650 competitor and leave KDF new country.
Maybe something FRESH for 95-5. NashvilleNative, you bring up an interesting situation. Crums no longer has the LMA with WSM-AM, it's all Gaylord. But, if you want to flank your country station (like Cox Media did in Birmingham) you could take WSM-FM to a historic/classic sound and maybe (if done correctly - ehhh) really mess up 650 and steal a bit from SIX and make sure KDF is more of the cutting edge stations. Still, that's a project and a longterm investment. It would be really wild to see them just bite the bullet and take WRQQ to Lite AC, make WSM-FM the flagship country station because, lets face it, country IS WSM and take WKDF back to Nashville's Real Rock 'n Roll station. Having it next to 104-5 is a perfect combination. They could tear up WBUZ in a week and get a third of the WNRQ listeners in a split second. If they did that, they'd be hitting a 5.5-6.5 share and then build.
Good point Tibbs. KDF could take from the buzz and rock, but on a personal level I'd hate to see it just because of how rock-saturated this market already is. I'm all rocked out. (Crossing fingers for AC) Assuming Cumulus sells 92.1 and 106.7, would there be a possibility of the buzz and party moving in on 2 frequencies - one to cover metro, the other rural? I wish Salem would pick one up, but not gonna happen with 2 already, unless they sold 94.1 to the Party.
I agree country would fit well with WSM calls, but that would risk losing KDF's momentum back to 98. (Many would just switch to their other preset - 98) We'd all be horrified by the number of country listeners (under 40) who have no idea what WSM legendary calls stand for, or for that matter, even care. Blasphemy, I know, but it's the world we live in. Honestly, I BARELY remember KDF's rock days.
This won't happen, but my vote goes to 95.5 as AC with mild i106/RQQ playlists blended to take on Jack, River, and Mix. It's the next receivable station past Mix on the dial in most offices anyway.
I'm sure they'd hate to lose ratings to 1510, but wild card here - "Power 99.7 (or 95.5) The beat down is on" ??
I agree country would fit well with WSM calls, but that would risk losing KDF's momentum back to 98. (Many would just switch to their other preset - 98) We'd all be horrified by the number of country listeners (under 40) who have no idea what WSM legendary calls stand for, or for that matter, even care. Blasphemy, I know, but it's the world we live in. Honestly, I BARELY remember KDF's rock days.
This won't happen, but my vote goes to 95.5 as AC with mild i106/RQQ playlists blended to take on Jack, River, and Mix. It's the next receivable station past Mix on the dial in most offices anyway.
I'm sure they'd hate to lose ratings to 1510, but wild card here - "Power 99.7 (or 95.5) The beat down is on" ??
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