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General Motors only after the consumer demands it ........ouch

well well well .....ouch.......only after the consumer demands it...sad

everybody Imho needs to pay the artist something.....no more free rides period

wonder why no comments on ford.....

I read another article where satrad will come with your kitchen fridge from whirlpool shortly

By Jeffrey Yorke

NAB President/CEO David Rehr (pictured) told a lunchtime audience at the RAB convention in Dallas today (Feb. 9) that radio broadcasters must speak in one voice and promote their industry and HD Radio, characterizing the movement as a "crusade for radio."

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http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRWebSite/
 
Lazar was prepared for the hardest question from the audience: When will GM, the world's largest automaker and a major shareholder in XM Satellite Radio, begin offering HD Radio receivers in its new vehicles? Lazer said the company is consumer-oriented and will take the lead from new-car buyers when the demand is clear. "We are fast followers and are ready to go," she said.

Great catch - in-dash HD Radio, isn't going to happen:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast

Flat-lined ! :D
 
700WLW said:
Lazar was prepared for the hardest question from the audience: When will GM, the world's largest automaker and a major shareholder in XM Satellite Radio, begin offering HD Radio receivers in its new vehicles? Lazer said the company is consumer-oriented and will take the lead from new-car buyers when the demand is clear. "We are fast followers and are ready to go," she said.

Great catch - in-dash HD Radio, isn't going to happen:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast

Flat-lined ! :D

We've all been lied to again. (Nothing new, I guess).
HD radio won't be in millions of new cars this year. Not even next year.
Everyone should know by now that HD stands for Huge Deception, or High Destruction, because HD certainly is NOT High Definition.

The HD cartel sure likes their lies, layoffs, and lobbyists. LLL!
 
SUPERCASTER said:
700WLW said:
Lazar was prepared for the hardest question from the audience: When will GM, the world's largest automaker and a major shareholder in XM Satellite Radio, begin offering HD Radio receivers in its new vehicles? Lazer said the company is consumer-oriented and will take the lead from new-car buyers when the demand is clear. "We are fast followers and are ready to go," she said.

Great catch - in-dash HD Radio, isn't going to happen:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast

Flat-lined ! :D

We've all been lied to again. (Nothing new, I guess).
HD radio won't be in millions of new cars this year. Not even next year.
Everyone should know by now that HD stands for Huge Deception, or High Destruction, because HD certainly is NOT High Definition.

The HD cartel sure likes their lies, layoffs, and lobbyists. LLL!

Obviously, with Ford installing Sync, Nissan Sentra's iPod connectivity in-dash and Altima's Bluetooth, and with RDS standard in 80% of new automobiles, these technologies will quickly move to other manufacturers/models, and leave HD Radio in-the-dust ! :D

"Ten Affordable iPod-Compatible Cars"

http://www.autoweb.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_id_int/701
 
tankedsecondchance said:
"We are fast followers and are ready to go," she said.[/b]

Translation: "We've got the radios ready to go. We'll start installing them when iBiquity gives us a cut like XM did."
 
tankedsecondchance said:
"Lazer said the company is consumer-oriented and will take the lead from new-car buyers when the demand is clear."

Translation: "There is no consumer demand for HD Radio, so in-dash HD Radio is s lost-cause".
 
700WLW said:
tankedsecondchance said:
"Lazer said the company is consumer-oriented and will take the lead from new-car buyers when the demand is clear."

Translation: "There is no consumer demand for HD Radio, so in-dash HD Radio is s lost-cause".

Following that logic, there obviously must not have been any consumer demand for satellite radio either - because it only found its way into new cars when XM and Sirius started paying the automakers off.
 
EasyPeazy said:
700WLW said:
tankedsecondchance said:
"Lazer said the company is consumer-oriented and will take the lead from new-car buyers when the demand is clear."

Translation: "There is no consumer demand for HD Radio, so in-dash HD Radio is s lost-cause".

Following that logic, there obviously must not have been any consumer demand for satellite radio either - because it only found its way into new cars when XM and Sirius started paying the automakers off.

"MediaWeek: It's the Talent, Stupid"

"Radio has been negotiating—with little success—with automobile manufacturers to get HD radios installed in new cars. Without HD radio as a standard option in cars, it seems unlikely that these radios will reach critical mass anytime soon."

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/current/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003535365

"XM/Sirius Merger - Clear thinking, and what it means for Radio"

"Plus, as I've said before, as goes satellite so goes HD. Meaning HD's only - and I mean only - shot for success is as standard (not optional) equipment in new cars. And that is a slow process that will take years and years - one car buyer at a time. And what does it mean for radio? It means we should stop spending phantom money on our air promoting HD and start spending real money to buy dashboard space in every new car."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/01/xmsirius_merger.html#comments

Translation: It isn't going to happen.
 
700WLW said:
"It means we should stop spending phantom money on our air promoting HD and start spending real money to buy dashboard space in every new car."

Ramsey is right on the money with that one. This is exactly what I'm saying.

You can buy "dashboard space" in every new car. XM and Sirius did it. For HD Radio to succeed, it will have to do the same.
 
EasyPeazy said:
700WLW said:
"It means we should stop spending phantom money on our air promoting HD and start spending real money to buy dashboard space in every new car."

Ramsey is right on the money with that one. This is exactly what I'm saying.

You can buy "dashboard space" in every new car. XM and Sirius did it. For HD Radio to succeed, it will have to do the same.

The Cartel doesn't have that kind of money, plus they have already stated, that a main focus for 2007, will be with that loser Sharper Image. Automakers will not embrace HD Radio, unless there is consumer demand, which hasn't happened, and never will. With Wireless Internet, free RDS, and iPod compatabile radio coming in-dash, HD Radio doesn't have a prayer. The HD Radio option in BMWs is $500, and the average consumer would never spend that kind of money, on just on plain-jane radio.
 
700WLW said:
The Cartel doesn't have that kind of money, plus they have already stated, that a main focus for 2007, will be with that loser Sharper Image. Automakers will not embrace HD Radio, unless there is consumer demand, which hasn't happened, and never will. With Wireless Internet, free RDS, and iPod compatabile radio coming in-dash, HD Radio doesn't have a prayer. The HD Radio option in BMWs is $500, and the average consumer would never spend that kind of money, on just on plain-jane radio.

You're kidding right? Satellite radio has the money to pay off the automakers but Clear Channel and the rest of the alliance doesn't?

Last time I checked, CC was in the black and both satcasters were hemorrhaging red ink.
 
EasyPeazy said:
700WLW said:
The Cartel doesn't have that kind of money, plus they have already stated, that a main focus for 2007, will be with that loser Sharper Image. Automakers will not embrace HD Radio, unless there is consumer demand, which hasn't happened, and never will. With Wireless Internet, free RDS, and iPod compatabile radio coming in-dash, HD Radio doesn't have a prayer. The HD Radio option in BMWs is $500, and the average consumer would never spend that kind of money, on just on plain-jane radio.

You're kidding right? Satellite radio has the money to pay off the automakers but Clear Channel and the rest of the alliance doesn't?

Last time I checked, CC was in the black and both satcasters were hemorrhaging red ink.

iNiquity is burning through, what's left of its investment money, using the same failed tactics, of 2006.
 
SUPERCASTER said:
700WLW said:
Lazar was prepared for the hardest question from the audience: When will GM, the world's largest automaker and a major shareholder in XM Satellite Radio, begin offering HD Radio receivers in its new vehicles? Lazer said the company is consumer-oriented and will take the lead from new-car buyers when the demand is clear. "We are fast followers and are ready to go," she said.

Great catch - in-dash HD Radio, isn't going to happen:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast

Flat-lined ! :D

We've all been lied to again. (Nothing new, I guess).
HD radio won't be in millions of new cars this year. Not even next year.
Everyone should know by now that HD stands for Huge Deception, or High Destruction, because HD certainly is NOT High Definition.

The HD cartel sure likes their lies, layoffs, and lobbyists. LLL!


i still dont know anyone with an hd radio. and i still dont know of any broadcasting stations in louisiana or mississippi. and no i dont mean independant stations that have 2 listeners to begin with.
 
It was mentioned:

iNiquity is burning through, what's left of its investment money, using the same failed tactics, of 2006.

We should all wish this to be the case. Unfortunately, iBiQuity isn't simply going through its last bit of {old} investment funds.

Please refer to http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,61104.msg436349.html#msg436349 which explains why.

The reliable word on the street is that iBiQuity's chairman has signed a promissory note for a severely high interest rate on this latest infusion of funds to the company and this probably IS the final attempt at making ICROCK work. These funds will most likely buy iBiQuity 2-3 years during which time they are committed to doing everything they can to 1) generate public interest in, and, 2) obtain final FCC approval for, their system. We must not allow this to happen or we can kiss what we formerly knew as "radio" goodbye.

So folks, it is not yet safe in spite of what anyone here believes or how bad we think the HD cartel is. Don't be duped. There HAS BEEN a new infusion of investment money. Keep the pressure on!
 
Cal Stymes said:
It was mentioned:

iNiquity is burning through, what's left of its investment money, using the same failed tactics, of 2006.

We should all wish this to be the case. Unfortunately, iBiQuity isn't simply going through its last bit of {old} investment funds.

Please refer to http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,61104.msg436349.html#msg436349 which explains why.

The reliable word on the street is that iBiQuity's chairman has signed a promissory note for a severely high interest rate on this latest infusion of funds to the company and this probably IS the final attempt at making ICROCK work. These funds will most likely buy iBiQuity 2-3 years during which time they are committed to doing everything they can to 1) generate public interest in, and, 2) obtain final FCC approval for, their system. We must not allow this to happen or we can kiss what we formerly knew as "radio" goodbye.

So folks, it is not yet safe in spite of what anyone here believes or how bad we think the HD cartel is. Don't be duped. There HAS BEEN a new infusion of investment money. Keep the pressure on!

In that other thread, you just posted that your had "heard" that iNiquity had received more funds, without providing a link, as proof. Using various search-engines, I have not been able to find, even a mention of any new funds. iNiquity is burning through the last its $250,000,000, with the same failed strategy, as last year. iNiquity is even wasting funds on trying to develop an iPod-type IBOC chip, which as mentioned in the "Bring HD Radio to the Masses" thread, is highly-challenging, plus, Apple has already selected RDS-FM, not IBOC-FM, for the iPod.
 
heres another report from the rab conference via ken dardis. heres a couple of qoutes from it..note what he said about general motor comments

Most everyone I spoke with about HD Radio at RAB 2007 admitted privately that it was the wrong road. That's a problem because the radio industry chief executives obviously disagree. If radio keeps putting its faith behind HD, bludgeoning the public with ads that sell a "discover it" approach, five years from now we'll all be asking "why?"



Competitors! It's still not clear to the radio industry that its competition is not new media, but the content new media delivers.

There are a few sentences about Betsy Lazar's keynote address at Radio & Records. Here's what R&R reports: "General Motors media buyer Betsy Lazar delivered the RAB's luncheon address, and, while professing her affection for radio (and relentlessly pitching GM products), she encouraged radio to adapt to the new world of media." Truth be told, Ms. Lazar lambasted the industry for not adapting to the "new world of media." I heard from more than one attendee of this keynote address how they wanted to "get up and walk out of the room." That's typical radio thinking; if the topic isn't praising you, don't listen.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/021307-1.htm
 
tankedsecondchance said:
heres another report from the rab conference via ken dardis. heres a couple of qoutes from it..note what he said about general motor comments

Most everyone I spoke with about HD Radio at RAB 2007 admitted privately that it was the wrong road. That's a problem because the radio industry chief executives obviously disagree. If radio keeps putting its faith behind HD, bludgeoning the public with ads that sell a "discover it" approach, five years from now we'll all be asking "why?"



Competitors! It's still not clear to the radio industry that its competition is not new media, but the content new media delivers.

There are a few sentences about Betsy Lazar's keynote address at Radio & Records. Here's what R&R reports: "General Motors media buyer Betsy Lazar delivered the RAB's luncheon address, and, while professing her affection for radio (and relentlessly pitching GM products), she encouraged radio to adapt to the new world of media." Truth be told, Ms. Lazar lambasted the industry for not adapting to the "new world of media." I heard from more than one attendee of this keynote address how they wanted to "get up and walk out of the room." That's typical radio thinking; if the topic isn't praising you, don't listen.

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/021307-1.htm

Without even seeing a transcript of her address, I can tell you why the radio people there were offended by her comments and I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with HD Radio. This is a media buyer we're talking about after all.

Read the comment you bolded again. What she's saying is radio should adopt the pricing strategy and selling approach of the "new world of media." In other words - radio needs to lower its rates to compete with new media.

This is an often repeated mantra of media buying types these days. They keep buying radio though, even with our supposedly inflated rates, because we deliver something most "new media" can't - results.
 
"Most everyone I spoke with about HD Radio at RAB 2007 admitted privately that it was the wrong road. That's a problem because the radio industry chief executives obviously disagree. If radio keeps putting its faith behind HD, bludgeoning the public with ads that sell a "discover it" approach, five years from now we'll all be asking why?"

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/021307-1.htm

You missed something ! :D
 
700WLW said:
"Most everyone I spoke with about HD Radio at RAB 2007 admitted privately that it was the wrong road. That's a problem because the radio industry chief executives obviously disagree. If radio keeps putting its faith behind HD, bludgeoning the public with ads that sell a "discover it" approach, five years from now we'll all be asking why?"

http://www.audiographics.com/agd/021307-1.htm

You missed something ! :D

Yeah - so did you. Why doesn't that surprise me?

Your quote is an opinion of the author of the piece you linked NOT the media buyer from GM which is what I was addressing.

Of course anyone with basic reading comprehension skills would have seen that - especially since I used words like "her" and "media buyer."

Could it have been the media buyer's comments I was addressing? Could be!
 
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