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Geraldo

Starting August 13th Geraldo will be syndicated by Cumulus weekdays 9am to noon Eastern.

What does it mean for KABC? Here's a wild guess:

- They chunk up Geraldo's show to make it usable as a 6-9am morning show (as they've been doing with Imus in NY)
- Doug McIntyre returns to Red Eye Radio
- The trucking show reverts to its original name and its previous backwater affiliates

Not saying any or all of this should happen, only that stranger things have happened!
 
Re: Wild guess concerning Geraldo displacing Doug McIntyre on KABC mornings -- PLEASE - ASAP! The poor quality of the KABC morning disaster could not be made worse by Geraldo and his huge ego. McIntyre and cackling sidekick T-Rae have been able to take a show that was terrible from the outset and, somehow, goodness only knows, make it worse week by week. It is a case study on how to take a poorly formatted and badly executed show and, as if by design, make it worse and worse and worse over time. And the newly released stagnant ratings prove the point.

The countless and clustered commercials (you can take a shower between 6:14 and 6:22/3 each day) is absurd. The cackling sidekick who also mumbles her way through what is supposed to pass as newscasts must regret leaving KFI. Today they announced the call in number in the 5 o'clock hour (it is a talk station, they say, after all) and took no calls (per usual). I think the formatting of the traffic reports has negatively impacted the show and compromised the ability to format (plus many would like the full ABC top of the hour newscast).

My speculative guess: 1. Geraldo replaces McIntyre and the Cackling Lady in August. 2. McIntyre does not return to Red Eye. 3. The trucking show (now Red Eye) stays right where it is with the oil commercials and Dallas duo. Thus, McIntyre will be gone. Cackling Sidekick, too. Exec. producer Lane tossed (should have been long ago). KABC saves money. And when we next hear of McIntyre he will still be at the big box store trying to buy a new TV set. And, perhaps, trying to figure out (because he just does not get it) why KABC would drop him after doing what has to be, in my view, one of the worst talk shows in many years in this major market. Would suggest starting over in Palm Springs for him. But I like Palm Springs a lot. Would not wish him (or cackling lady) on Coachella Valley. P.S. to McIntyre: Not enough people listen to you to allow you to claim you had any role in the district attorney's race. Do the numbers. No impact. KABC is a lost station. Not "legendary" anymore. Just lost.
 
youngsag said:
Re: Wild guess concerning Geraldo displacing Doug McIntyre on KABC mornings -- PLEASE - ASAP! The poor quality of the KABC morning disaster could not be made worse by Geraldo and his huge ego. McIntyre and cackling sidekick T-Rae have been able to take a show that was terrible from the outset and, somehow, goodness only knows, make it worse week by week. It is a case study on how to take a poorly formatted and badly executed show and, as if by design, make it worse and worse and worse over time. And the newly released stagnant ratings prove the point.

The countless and clustered commercials (you can take a shower between 6:14 and 6:22/3 each day) is absurd. The cackling sidekick who also mumbles her way through what is supposed to pass as newscasts must regret leaving KFI. Today they announced the call in number in the 5 o'clock hour (it is a talk station, they say, after all) and took no calls (per usual). I think the formatting of the traffic reports has negatively impacted the show and compromised the ability to format (plus many would like the full ABC top of the hour newscast).

My speculative guess: 1. Geraldo replaces McIntyre and the Cackling Lady in August. 2. McIntyre does not return to Red Eye. 3. The trucking show (now Red Eye) stays right where it is with the oil commercials and Dallas duo. Thus, McIntyre will be gone. Cackling Sidekick, too. Exec. producer Lane tossed (should have been long ago). KABC saves money. And when we next hear of McIntyre he will still be at the big box store trying to buy a new TV set. And, perhaps, trying to figure out (because he just does not get it) why KABC would drop him after doing what has to be, in my view, one of the worst talk shows in many years in this major market. Would suggest starting over in Palm Springs for him. But I like Palm Springs a lot. Would not wish him (or cackling lady) on Coachella Valley. P.S. to McIntyre: Not enough people listen to you to allow you to claim you had any role in the district attorney's race. Do the numbers. No impact. KABC is a lost station. Not "legendary" anymore. Just lost.
Much to digest here. Some of it is valid, some of it is simply dismissive, but the conclusion is wrong:
* Cumulus may be stupid and run Geraldo in AM drive here as you surmised, but that would be a mistake since it will not be an AM drive show in NYC, and will be nationally syndicated, so its aspirations will not be to serve a morning commuter audience. I suspect that it will air 9a to Noon here, which will be a lousy idea too, since an actuality show aired on tape delayed basis is by definition stale and disrespectful of the audience that gets it on delay. Market #2 does not deserve to be disrespected thusly
* McIntyre in the morning is salvageable and shouldn't be disposed of as you suggest - however many of your critiques are on-point. The clock does not serve Doug well, too much focus on repeating news headlines and commercial clutter, with no time for Doug's personality, passions, and interaction with callers. KABC should either let Doug be Doug, or let Doug host a live and local overnight show for LA in place of the trucker show you rightfully lambaste. This is market #2, so the rules of cost savings have to be hedged against the revenue potential available here from a station that has achieved 2+ and 3+ shares when programmed correctly. Note the amount of agency sourced commercials on KNX vs. the number of second-tier spots that run on KABC. This is part of the formula of a vibrant station.
* Salary - talent here has historically gotten paid handsomely by this legendary station, and that needs to be brought more in line with current realities. Doug may be highly compensated, and Cumulus is certainly not comfortable with that, and that may lead them to want to do what you propose (dump him).
* KABC is a heritage station and can be a force again in this DMA market #2 IF and only IF it gives LA what it wants: Local talk & local issues (a memo that Larry Elder has yet to read). What I mean is lots of Hollywood, local celebrities (not just entertainment, but the Wolfgang Puck types too), frequent interviews, and making the listener feel like they are in the know and ahead of the curve.
* Interviews on talkradio - Look at Larry Mantle's rolodex and popularity on KPPC, much like Michael Jackson used to be on KABC during its heritage peak. A station like that would be a PR agent's dream. Think of the chatter that would happen as every person who has a chance to be interviewed on-air will tap into their network to encourage listening to them on KABC. A station like 790 needs sampling to have a chance at revival.

That is some of the formula I think KABC should attempt to mold itself toward. Don't throw this "legendary" baby out with the bath water.
 
"No one is interested"......until they are. Many product innovations have come forth and developed an audience that prior to then was not only not there, but not even on anyone's radar. Here is Rich Lieberman 415 Media's take on such informative and local programming - which SFO enjoyed just last week:

Rothmann on Election Night; Intelligent Radio, What a Concept (posted on 6/6/12)
I'm listening to John Rothmann. He's the political analyst for NewsTalk 910. There's no screaming, yelling, cackling, or bizarro histrionics--quite the opposite in fact. Intelligent radio; simple and honest dialogue with real people and political discourse, wow what a bonanza. It's radical idea, but I think it has some appeal if the consultants don't screw it up. I know this is a temporary deal, but local radio needs more of this. It's not sexy, it won't move the needle, but it's honest and genuine and if you're a political junkie like me, it's divine. Rothmann is superb too. But most of you already know that. His analysis is top of the line. The banter with newsman, Sebastian Koontz, is also very good too. Real, honest, and enlightening radio--an entity that has some staying power in the Bay Area.
 
I find myself listening less and less to talk radio. I don't know if I've evolved or if the management at LA talk stations have totally screwed it up. These days the only hosts I find are really talented and have a skill at keeping listeners are Bill Handel, John Koybalt (if Ken was solo he would be cancelled in a week) and yes I've been listening to Phil Hendrie at nights occasionally since he is funny and that is what you do need at times.

Everyone else SUCKS.
Larry Elder's huge ego gets in the way of ever listening to him more than a few minutes.
Conway is like listening to the mental ward with his screaming and infections.
Bill Carroll is well Bill Carroll (enough said)
John Phillips with his phoney yuk yuk radio voice is grating to the ears (notice how his radio voice causes him to fudge up the promo of his website - he says Johnny Don't like ***).
Peter Tilden is the most effective remedy known to man for insomniacs.
Geraldo is a train wreck.

I don't honestly know who or what personality they can bring in that would keep an audience. Maybe Leykis comes to mind, but no one else.
 
"No one is interested"......until they are"....get use to the new radio landscape...they'll only be if there ar $$$ attached!
 
Geraldo WON'T be successful in talk radio since he doesn't connect with angry white males like John & Ken do. Heard Geraldo acknowledge what comprises the predominant talk radio-listening crowd on his show yesterday. And having a soft illegal immigration stance won't help him to win over listeners. Plus, LOCAL talk always wins (KFI's strategy).
 
Wow. If "legendary" KABC, once and for many, many years the "class act" of Los Angeles talk radio, is the dumping ground for national syndy shows (as another writer posits), then one can understand why the truly bad, second and third rate local shows remaining on the schedule are ones that are simply time fillers only. And bad. Truly, truly bad.

What in the world is McIntyre in the KABC morning slot doing? Killing time. The show is a disaster. At polar opposite of his time leading the Red Eye show. So, is it Doug or is it KABC management? Well, maybe management. After all, they still employ Mr. Elder. And that guy with the gutter mouth, Phillips. Heck, KABC does not even have baseball games anymore.

Is KABC worst in local talk? My opinion is that after decades at the top of talk radio here (and we tried and tried to beat or match KABC at KGIL, KIEV, KLAC and could never do it), KABC has taken a rightful place at the bottom of talk radio in this market. So, I turned the dial....

....to THE ANSWER, aka/pka KRLA. Early on I thought and wrote that if she would slow down her delivery that Heidi Harris had a shot at developing a decent show here in Los Angeles. But after listening the last two mornings - sorry. Who are those unmatched sidekicks? They do not complement Harris in any way. She has, it seems, good on air personality, all-important energy. Dragged down by these two guys. Weird. She is better left to her own devices. Get rid of the guys. Speak in a slower pattern. Stop talking gory crime (which also is advice for McIntrye)(I know: talking crime from the LA Times is easy!). But it is a cop-out (slight pun intended). Talk substance. Talk local politics, government. Take calls. Do interviews but, unlike McIntrye, do not be so concerned about showing your guests how smart you are (or think you are).

Sigh! Is talk radio that can delivery listeners, get the demos, get the favored advertisers, stir the pot - is it dead in Los Angeles? Alas, one does not like to admit that maybe it is, in fact, dead here and that management around town does not have the ability, the money, the desire to bring two way radio back to the top of the radio market here (and elsewhere). Good-bye soon to McIntryre, his giggling KFI alum sidekick who mumbles as much as anyone could on radio, and good bye Phillips. Take that "exec producer" Baker with you when you leave. So long. Always a job at the car lots in Van Nuys (the heaven of the San Fernando Valley).
 
youngsag said:
Talk substance. Talk local politics, government. Take calls. Do interviews but, unlike McIntrye, do not be so concerned about showing your guests how smart you are (or think you are).

Oh, but Doug is so smart he can't help himself. Like back in 2008 when he positioned himself as the "enlightened conservative", as opposed to all of the racist rednecks listening over on KFI, and boldly told anyone who was listening that Obama is the way forward and he, and only he, could clean up the mess that was the W presidency, and Doug would move away from the backward conservatives and Republicans and vote for a new kind of leader.

Today, with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, I can only marvel at how enlightened Doug really was and how wrong everyone else was. He was just so far out ahead of us. I am so glad we had Doug's foresight and wisdom back then to point the way, otherwise we would have a weak and impotent administration now that would have no control over domestic policy, economic policy and foreign policy and would not unite us as a country.

I salute Doug's intelligence. He can talk about it all he wants. No one is listening anyway.
 
youngsag said:
Sigh! Is talk radio that can delivery listeners, get the demos, get the favored advertisers, stir the pot - is it dead in Los Angeles?

KFI is doing well... in fact, it averages in the top 5 in 25-54, too. And that is, today, rather unusual for an AM talker.

The problem with all the other talk formatted stations is that they have deficient signals. 870 is deficient, particularly at night and 790 is just a puny signal next to KFI. Whether the programming is good or bad, if the signal does not work, the format won't work.

Oddly, the 1150 signal may be the best of the bunch, but it's format does not seem to have found favor in LA...
 
DavidEduardo said:
youngsag said:
Sigh! Is talk radio that can delivery listeners, get the demos, get the favored advertisers, stir the pot - is it dead in Los Angeles?

KFI is doing well... in fact, it averages in the top 5 in 25-54, too. And that is, today, rather unusual for an AM talker.

The problem with all the other talk formatted stations is that they have deficient signals. 870 is deficient, particularly at night and 790 is just a puny signal next to KFI. Whether the programming is good or bad, if the signal does not work, the format won't work.

Oddly, the 1150 signal may be the best of the bunch, but it's format does not seem to have found favor in LA...

Yes, quite true, but how to explain such a phenomenon?
 
Seems like mr mcintyre was wrong about president kardashian oh i am sorry i meant president obama.

I disagree about heidi harris. She was good on her own and with b to the second power (ben and brian)
 
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