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Hmmm...Is that just a sign that they're slow on the updating side, or are they quick to update the site in anticipation of dumping a certain large western NY market cluster?

If it's the latter, who would they sell it to? Entercom's maxed out in Buffalo, Emmis isn't in the market, Townsquare's got what it wants in the area, CBS shows no signs of returning...so does that leave Clear Channel, looking to spend some of the money it's been saving by throwing away so many people all over the country?

Sure does look like something's brewing, even if the press releases aren't ready yet....
 
Bob1370 said:
Hmmm...Is that just a sign that they're slow on the updating side, or are they quick to update the site in anticipation of dumping a certain large western NY market cluster?

If it's the latter, who would they sell it to? Entercom's maxed out in Buffalo, Emmis isn't in the market, Townsquare's got what it wants in the area, CBS shows no signs of returning...so does that leave Clear Channel, looking to spend some of the money it's been saving by throwing away so many people all over the country?

Sure does look like something's brewing, even if the press releases aren't ready yet....
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Sure looks like somethings brewing? Because of an out of date website? I'm asking sincerely... Are you insane? Aside from reading Radio-Info, do you read anything else or (God Forbid) actually work in the business still?

I understand the point of Rox bringing it up... But to conclude "Something is Brewing" is asinine
 
So many stations, so few coders. Synergies. Although, how many tags does it take to link to Buffalo. Let's try this. Not so hard. 47 seconds.
 
Oh come on...the page also doesn't include New York City. Do you think that means they're on the verge of selling WABC/WPLJ? Look around and you'll see that none of the former Citadel markets are there, including LA and Chicago.

This is a company where the web site is the lowest of low priorities.
 
In my humble opinion, & it's only that, I don't think C.C. is interested in Buffalo. In fact, I don't think C. C. is interested in any market below #50. I think they regret ever getting involved in Upstate N. Y. at all.
 
It's simply an oversight; not a conspiracy or a sign from above. For all we know, it could be corrected by tomorrow.
 
Whoa. Bob read WAY more into this than I did - and way more than is justified IMO. I don't think that any of the former Citadel markets show up on the page. C'mon, they've owned these stations for MONTHS. They can't even update the website to include the stations that they bought for $3.4-BILLION? Reportedly, they've sure been busy rolling out software and updates to the former Citadel markets, and have taken control of station websites.

Sorry, this is just embarrassing for Cumuless. It makes them look amateurish and incapable of managing their own enterprise.
 
SirRoxalot said:
Reportedly, they've sure been busy rolling out software and updates to the former Citadel markets, and have taken control of station websites.
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I had heard the same thing, but I just went to some former Citadel sites, and they are still credited as being run by Mediaspan.
 
MediaSpan may be hosting and managing content, but I've been told that the work flow for updates now goes through corporate. Most of the local web design & encoding jobs have been eliminated. Yet corporate can't seem to get around to updating its own website. DOH!
 
SirRoxalot said:
MediaSpan may be hosting and managing content, but I've been told that the work flow for updates now goes through corporate. Most of the local web design & encoding jobs have been eliminated.
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There never were any local web designs. That's why Mediaspan was hired. They created a template that all stations used.

No one's managing the corporate site. As you can see, the copyright date is 2010. Maybe they'll outsource to Clear Channel.
 
MediaSpan is a content management and hosting company. The websites under Citadel were designed with significant local input, and templates were created by MediaSpan to make updating easier. At least two positions were eliminated locally that were primarily devoted to web content creation under Citadel. Websites under Citadel weren't nearly as uniform as they are under Cumuless.

Maybe you ought to actually know what you're talking about before you expound.
 
SirRoxalot said:
Maybe you ought to actually know what you're talking about before you expound.
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There is nothing in your post that disproves anything I wrote.

And this thread is about the corporate site...as you know.
 
You said, "There never were any local web designs." Under Citadel, the web designs were created locally, and adapted to templates by MediaSpan. So, there were indeed local web designs, and updates to both pages and templates by local web people. You simply won't admit that you're wrong, or that you don't know what you're talking about.

The different is that under Cumuless the templates are fixed, not flexible, and content goes through corporate. That's a BIG difference in the work flow. And, since I'm the one that started the thread, I'm well aware of what it's about.

The bottom line is that Cumuless doesn't seem to be very interested in the web as part of their media empire.
 
SirRoxalot said:
You said, "There never were any local web designs." Under Citadel, the web designs were created locally, and adapted to templates by MediaSpan.
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No...the template is the design. All the local person did was insert their local content. But the basic design was universal.

If web designers were eliminated, that's because you don't need someone with that title or knowledge to update a site. Heck, I can do it, and I'm neither a designer or an encoder. The design and the encoding is all in the template.

SirRoxalot said:
The different is that under Cumuless the templates are fixed, not flexible, and content goes through corporate.
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The template is basically the same as it was under Citadel. I really don't see any changes.

Take a look at the web sites of WGRF and WHTT. Compare them. The sites are different in many ways. But they're built on the same basic template.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, there is no corporate web department at Cumulus for content to go through. It may sit on a corporate server, for all I know. And it may get there via a corporate ftp. But it doesn't "go through corporate" except perhaps figuratively.

Now maybe to you, "corporate" means anything that isn't Buffalo. If so, then the RSS stuff is generated from the same place it's always come from, which is the former ABC radio networks. But as I said, that's where it came from before the Cumulus merger.

But yes, as I said in one of my first responses to this thread, web sites are not a priority at Cumulus. And the corporate site is even less so.
 
SirRoxalot said:
You said, "There never were any local web designs." Under Citadel, the web designs were created locally, and adapted to templates by MediaSpan. So, there were indeed local web designs, and updates to both pages and templates by local web people.
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Wait...which era of Citadel are you talking about?
 
Look, you're simply making stuff up again. You really have no idea how it worked during any era of Citadel. But, arguing with you is pointless.
 
SirRoxalot said:
Look, you're simply making stuff up again. You really have no idea how it worked during any era of Citadel.
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Not true. The fact is that it changed several times under Citadel. That's why I asked. But my central point is that the web situation has basically not changed because of Cumulus. They still use Mediaspan, which is the company they used before the merger. And the Cumulus stations don't use Mediaspan. But neither company had a strategy in terms of new media.
 
Well, well....
I like this!! As much as this is a radio board (with exceptions as usually noted) it has PROGRESSED to this debate on multi-media alternates!! In this case...websites :eek: Didn't take long for acknowlegement that they ARE a factor!! Otherwise this is fodder for the trash can!!
I shall steal from Just Past Buffalo --- savor the day!! ;D
 
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