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Gigaware $20 portable HD radio

nd2023

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http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3734241

Anyone have the Gigaware HD Radio add-on for the iPhone or iPod touch? I saw it and it seems interesting. I'd like to not have to carry around both my iPod touch and my Insignia HD radio everywhere I go.


It's only 20 bucks so I'll just get it tomorrow. Hopefully it's just as good or better than my Insignia so I don't have to carry around 2 audio devices. How's the reception on this? I want to see some reviews by radio geeks. As I'm in a great analog signal/marginal HD signal area, a little more sensitivity will go a long way. I'd also like great selectivity for DXing.
 
It is a "gotta-have-even-though-it-doesn't-work" item and the app is free.

It "works" with an iPad as well.

It has the reception of a portable. If you are not within line-of-sight, it will not work more than it works.

You are not a radio geek unless you have it.

... I got mine last week. The Rat Shack is closing them out.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I have a Sony XDRF1HD and outdoor antenna that gets all the HDs from a market 60 miles away with no problem, if the antenna's pointed at that market. Heck, it can get most of the Class B stations from 100-150 miles away almost all the time, tropo or not. My Insignia portable can get some of that market's HD stations if I hold the "antenna" in the right spot. So that itself is a high standard for a portable HD radio, a headphone cord antenna can be almost as good as a rooftop antenna and the best radio receiver. Hopefully the Gigaware performs just as good as the Insignia. I would love it if I could get the performance of the Sony HD radio everywhere, but lugging a big radio and a large outdoor antenna everywhere I go is a bit overkill.
 
Nick said:
I have a Sony XDRF1HD and outdoor antenna that gets all the HDs from a market 60 miles away with no problem, if the antenna's pointed at that market. Heck, it can get most of the Class B stations from 100-150 miles away almost all the time, tropo or not. My Insignia portable can get some of that market's HD stations if I hold the "antenna" in the right spot. So that itself is a high standard for a portable HD radio, a headphone cord antenna can be almost as good as a rooftop antenna and the best radio receiver. Hopefully the Gigaware performs just as good as the Insignia. I would love it if I could get the performance of the Sony HD radio everywhere, but lugging a big radio and a large outdoor antenna everywhere I go is a bit overkill.

Where are you located that you can pick up HD that reliable at that distance?

I have an additional problem of the HD as being a retransmit of the main AM signal. It is a 39 minute delay. Not very practical for contests or listening on the fly.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
60 miles from New York City with an outdoor antenna. Since the radio isn't moving and the antenna has gain in the direction it's pointed, the HDs stay locked in. When moving, the Insignia doesn't even detect the NYC HD signals.
 
Nick said:
60 miles from New York City with an outdoor antenna. Since the radio isn't moving and the antenna has gain in the direction it's pointed, the HDs stay locked in. When moving, the Insignia doesn't even detect the NYC HD signals.

60 air miles from Empire is a long way.

In which direction?

What type of outdoor antenna.

Empire signals are high, but low powered by comparison to other parts of the country. And they are short spaced.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
60 miles southwest, with an APS-13 on the roof. I get all the HDs except WQXR. When stationary, my portable Insignia gets the high powered HDs briefly when standing in the right spot.
 
Nick said:
60 miles southwest, with an APS-13 on the roof. I get all the HDs except WQXR. When stationary, my portable Insignia gets the high powered HDs briefly when standing in the right spot.

what town are you near?

Philly is 90 miles southwest of NYC.

You should be in range for Philly on the backside although you might not be in a direct line between the two.

Are you able to discern WRXP and Q102? Do they interfere with one another? How about B101 and WCBS-FM?

You sound as though you are closer to Roxborough than to Empire. So the backside may help to even out the signals.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I'm in Bordentown and can easily get the Philly HDs while moving even on my Insignia, except for 103.9. I can get WRXP in HD and WIOQ in HD depending which way my antenna is pointed. I even get a weak signal of WBAB on 102.3 nearly all the time.

I can get B101 in HD and CBS-FM shows up in HD if my antenna's pointed northeast, but it's not that reliable. However, I get Z100 in HD reliably because WPHI is not in HD.

During last week's tropo, I got 94.9 The Point (Norfolk, VA) in HD and 105.7 WROR (Boston) in HD, just to name a few examples. 94.5 also flashed the HD indicator, but the call letters didn't decode and the analog was covered by WPST, I think it was Jam'n 94.5 from Boston since at that time I had the Boston stations pretty strong.

The Sony XDRF1HD and APS-13 outdoor antenna are the best radio receiver and outdoor antenna, put them together and you get great results! The furthest stations I can get regularly are Lite 100.5 (Hartford, CT) and Hot 100.5 (Norfolk, VA) almost every day in the summer. I'm amazed my Insignia portable can even detect the NYC HDs where I am with just a headphone cord antenna.
 
Nick said:
I'm in Bordentown and can easily get the Philly HDs while moving even on my Insignia, except for 103.9. I can get WRXP in HD and WIOQ in HD depending which way my antenna is pointed. I even get a weak signal of WBAB on 102.3 nearly all the time.

I can get B101 in HD and CBS-FM shows up in HD if my antenna's pointed northeast, but it's not that reliable. However, I get Z100 in HD reliably because WPHI is not in HD.

Since WPHI is not in HD and Z100 is, can you toggle between 100.3's? In other words, kill the HD for Z100 and pick up The Beat clearly, and then let the HD from Z100 come back and bury The Beat"?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta?
 
No, there's no feature to disable HD reception. I just rotate the antenna 180 degrees to toggle between the 100.3s and 101.1s and 99.5s.
 
Nick said:
No, there's no feature to disable HD reception. I just rotate the antenna 180 degrees to toggle between the 100.3s and 101.1s and 99.5s.
Yeah, there is. It's called the tune up and down button. It takes so long for the HD to lock in.

I think it is interesting that they never put a button in any of the radios I've seen to disable the HD as the stereo/mono button used to be commonplace. It was great for marketing purposes.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I finally bought this HD Radio from Radio Shack. First off, I had to look for it myself, since the salesperson didn't know what an HD radio was. Then I found it buried with the iPod accessories, there were 6 in stock. Price was $20 as I expected. The salesperson asked if I wanted the 1 year extended warranty for an extra $3. That's a rip off, since for it to break even for me, there would need to be a 15% chance of the item breaking in a year. I'm sure they get a commission from every sucker that gets the extended warranty (hopefully management doesn't require a quota of a certain extended warranty sales per day).

So I open it and plug it in. I need to download the HD Radio app. First problem, it requires iOS 4+ and I had iOS 3.1. I need to upgrade my firmware. That takes over 2 hours since I jailbreaked my iPhone. Most normal users would not even update their firmware and return the HD radio.

The reception is great for a $20 radio. I'm in Bordentown, NJ. First station I tune to is 92.3 Now, and the call letters pop up immediately and there's no static. That's a good sign. While tuning around, I notice the Philly HDs come in, but aren't reliable as on my Insignia. No New York HDs at all. The RDS is better than the Insignia, but it shows the wrong call letters for many stations (for example, it shows KEGY instead of WIOQ). Bummer, I was hoping to use that feature for e-skip. It's not as sensitive as the Insignia and definitely not as sensitive as my Sony XDRF1HD. There was slight tropo. On my Sony with the antenna pointed south, I could get Hot 100.5 and 94.9 The Point from Norfolk, VA with a little bit of static. On my Insignia, I could get those stations with a lot of static but the audio was still discernable. Complete static on my Gigaware no matter where I position the headphone cord antenna, even while I was still listening to those stations on the speakers attached to the Sony. The selectivity is great, I can hear Harold Camping tell us when the world is ending on WFME 94.7 without any splatter from 94.5 PST (WPST splatters on to 94.7 on every non DSP radio I have, including my car radio). No overload either, but I don't live close to any transmitters.

Haven't tested it while moving, that part of my review will be tomorrow. But so far, looks like I might still carry my Insignia around since this radio kills my iPhone battery life.

I like that I can post what I'm listening to on Facebook and tell all my 1750 friends that I am special because I have an HD radio on my iPhone.

Some features I'd like to see:
Search for radio stations based on current location
Internet stream link for the current station, and possibly automatically switching to the stream when the signal is weak so I could continue listening if I travel out of range.
Field strength reading in dBu instead of arbitrary bars (I think all wireless signal strength meters should display strength with a number, not with bars)
The AM and shortwave bands
Attach an external antenna
Record radio stations, including RDS/HD text so I can record a frequency during e-skip
Direct frequency entry
See what's playing on other preset stations
A button to call the radio station I'm listening to
Map of the station's coverage area and my current location
Show what stations my friends are listening to, that is, if I have any friends that have this HD radio
Pause and rewind live radio
Update DXworld.com with a press of a button to share what I'm DXing "[Tr, Es] [frequency] [call letters] [COL] [distance] // [personal signature]"
Automatically generate a DX log
Run in the background and alert me if a signal is detected on a blank frequency (or several blank frequencies) I specify, so I know immediately if there's e-skip
Alert the FCC to a pirate station
 
I finally bought this HD Radio from Radio Shack. First off, I had to look for it myself, since the salesperson didn't know what an HD radio was. Then I found it buried with the iPod accessories, there were 6 in stock. Price was $20 as I expected. The salesperson asked if I wanted the 1 year extended warranty for an extra $3. That's a rip off, since for it to break even for me, there would need to be a 15% chance of the item breaking in a year. I'm sure they get a commission from every sucker that gets the extended warranty (hopefully management doesn't require a quota of a certain extended warranty sales per day).
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Radio Shack is having serious problems. I don’t think any electronics parts stores will be in business in a few years.
So I open it and plug it in. I need to download the HD Radio app. First problem, it requires iOS 4+ and I had iOS 3.1. I need to upgrade my firmware. That takes over 2 hours since I jailbreaked my iPhone. Most normal users would not even update their firmware and return the HD radio.
I made the mistake of upgrading my iPad in November. It took almost 3 months to get the jailbreak back back.
The reception is great for a $20 radio. I'm in Bordentown, NJ. First station I tune to is 92.3 Now, and the call letters pop up immediately and there's no static. That's a good sign. While tuning around, I notice the Philly HDs come in, but aren't reliable as on my Insignia. No New York HDs at all. The RDS is better than the Insignia, but it shows the wrong call letters for many stations (for example, it shows KEGY instead of WIOQ). Bummer, I was hoping to use that feature for e-skip.
The K-calls is convoluted but so far yours is working just as mine is.
It's not as sensitive as the Insignia and definitely not as sensitive as my Sony XDRF1HD. There was slight tropo.
The NJ tropo is going to play havoc with the newer features, such as , RDS and HD. No getting around that.
On my Sony with the antenna pointed south, I could get Hot 100.5 and 94.9 The Point from Norfolk, VA with a little bit of static. On my Insignia, I could get those stations with a lot of static but the audio was still discernable. Complete static on my Gigaware no matter where I position the headphone cord antenna, even while I was still listening to those stations on the speakers attached to the Sony. The selectivity is great, I can hear Harold Camping tell us when the world is ending on WFME 94.7 without any splatter from 94.5 PST (WPST splatters on to 94.7 on every non DSP radio I have, including my car radio). No overload either, but I don't live close to any transmitters.
My test for that area and east were WPAT/WMMR and WPLJ/95.7/WRAT.

Haven't tested it while moving, that part of my review will be tomorrow. But so far, looks like I might still carry my Insignia around since this radio kills my iPhone battery life.

I like that I can post what I'm listening to on Facebook and tell all my 1750 friends that I am special because I have an HD radio on my iPhone.

Some features I'd like to see:
Search for radio stations based on current location
Internet stream link for the current station, and possibly automatically switching to the stream when the signal is weak so I could continue listening if I travel out of range.
Field strength reading in dBu instead of arbitrary bars (I think all wireless signal strength meters should display strength with a number, not with bars)
The AM and shortwave bands
Attach an external antenna
Record radio stations, including RDS/HD text so I can record a frequency during e-skip
Direct frequency entry
See what's playing on other preset stations
A button to call the radio station I'm listening to
Map of the station's coverage area and my current location
Show what stations my friends are listening to, that is, if I have any friends that have this HD radio
Pause and rewind live radio
Update DXworld.com with a press of a button to share what I'm DXing "[Tr, Es] [frequency] [call letters] [COL] [distance] // [personal signature]"
Automatically generate a DX log
Run in the background and alert me if a signal is detected on a blank frequency (or several blank frequencies) I specify, so I know immediately if there's e-skip
Alert the FCC to a pirate station
I think you are asking for too much…

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Are the stations with wrong call signs in HD or just via RDS? It may be showing the PI (program ident) instead of the PS (program service). The PS is the 8 character display that is supposed to be static; the PI is a different field that's supposed to be a unique code. In the US this is usually just the call sign, but on some Clear Channel stations, the PI is different. For example, where I live WKSJ-FM has a PI that says KDAB-FM.

No idea why they do that, but it seems to be only CC stations that are different.
 
Zach said:
I meant to include this in the original post. Here's a screencap of the RDS datastream of WKSJ-FM in Mobile, AL. "95 KSJ" is the PS, what most radios show. "KDAB-FM" is the PI that is incorrect. That might be what the Gigaware is showing.
I think it is just not getting a strong enough signal to display the RDS correctly. The "radio" is trying to fill in the blanks.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I've seen wrong call signs on the Sangean HDT-1 (X and not X) tuners but never with the Sony XDR-F1HD. Oh, BTW, I would like to see something like a XDR-F2HD with a tuning knob, same high level sensitivity and selectivity, 1 kHz tuning steps on AM, .01 MHz tuning steps on FM, better RDS on the screen, forced analog mode that can be swithed on or off, larger size of the tuner, memory presets that last forever, and most controls on the front. I'm not saying the F1HD is bad, it's darn good.
 
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