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Glenn Beck Learns The Hard Way That NYC "Hates Conservatives"

Re: RE: "Beck deserves NO consideration."

jas2525 said:
And none of that absolves Beck of responsabilty for the sheer nonsense that he espouses. So when any of them, in this case Beck, are called out, humilated or booed out of a venue for what they do, I couldn't care less.

Ain't it great to have freedoms!


Oh, come on, Jas. You really think it's permissible to assault someone, let alone someone's wife or children, because you don't like what they say?

Intentionally spilling wine on someone would be assault (or aggrivated battery, or something similar depending on local and state law). Do you blame rape victims who happen to wear miniskirts the day are attacked, too?

Glenn Beck has never advocated thug violence. You may dislike his politics but nobody deserves to be harmed. And attacking his wife and kids is a thuggish, classless, and criminal thing to do.

It amazes me to read the amount of hate directed towards Glenn's wife. As someone who has met the family, Mrs. Beck is a kind woman, supportive wife as well as a caring and doting mother. Why there is no outrage over this by the "liberals" is beyond me. When SNL made fun of Chelsea Clinton in her teen years, there was outrage. Glenn Beck's wife is attacked, and the same people cheer on the attackers.
 
Re: RE: "Beck deserves NO consideration."

NewsStud said:
jas2525 said:
And none of that absolves Beck of responsabilty for the sheer nonsense that he espouses. So when any of them, in this case Beck, are called out, humilated or booed out of a venue for what they do, I couldn't care less.

Ain't it great to have freedoms!


Oh, come on, Jas. You really think it's permissible to assault someone, let alone someone's wife or children, because you don't like what they say?

Intentionally spilling wine on someone would be assault (or aggrivated battery, or something similar depending on local and state law). Do you blame rape victims who happen to wear miniskirts the day are attacked, too?

Glenn Beck has never advocated thug violence. You may dislike his politics but nobody deserves to be harmed. And attacking his wife and kids is a thuggish, classless, and criminal thing to do.

It amazes me to read the amount of hate directed towards Glenn's wife. As someone who has met the family, Mrs. Beck is a kind woman, supportive wife as well as a caring and doting mother. Why there is no outrage over this by the "liberals" is beyond me. When SNL made fun of Chelsea Clinton in her teen years, there was outrage. Glenn Beck's wife is attacked, and the same people cheer on the attackers.

Beck is despicable. He has contributed mightily to the degrading of conversation in this country. I do not take that lightly, as it has far reaching consequences.

Maybe he will now have second thoughts about what damage he does to discourse in this country, just to get rich.

Nothing makes you think, like pressure from home.
 
What Beck does next will be a model.

jas2525 said:
Maybe he will now have second thoughts about what damage he does to discourse in this country, just to get rich.

Wanna bet?
It's all about the money.

I believe that Sean Hannity believes what he says on-air. For him, it's heartfelt.
I believe that Rush Limbaugh believes some-to-most-of what he says on-air. For him, it's a show.
I don't believe that Glenn Beck believes anything.

But he sure knows how to crank-it-out.
WATCH WHAT HE DOES NEXT.
This online video thing will suggest an innovative new business model.
Beck spent an hour yesterday not-quite-denying that Fox fired him.
What he's about to show us, by self-publishing: Who needs Fox...or any other publisher?

HC
www.HollandCooke.com
 
QUOTE: Beck is despicable. He has contributed mightily to the degrading of conversation in this country. I do not take that lightly, as it has far reaching consequences.

If the consequences were that far reaching, President Obama wouldn't have been elected President for one thing. Many top tier talkers have an ego to match. They think that they have more influence over the process, and the course of events, then they actually do. Unfortunately, due to their relative omnipresence, many people come to believe the same way.
 
johnbasalla said:
QUOTE: Beck is despicable. He has contributed mightily to the degrading of conversation in this country. I do not take that lightly, as it has far reaching consequences.

If the consequences were that far reaching, President Obama wouldn't have been elected President for one thing. Many top tier talkers have an ego to match. They think that they have more influence over the process, and the course of events, then they actually do. Unfortunately, due to their relative omnipresence, many people come to believe the same way.

So it has to be the most obvious and overt outcome for you to understand the damage?

Tell me, have you tried to talk to certain people these days, only to find them impossible to talk to because of Beck's re-education program? You think that is without consequence in the aggregate?

Guess again.
 
Glenn Beck using his freedom of speech does not concern me as people who don't agree with him also have their freedom of speech to say he's all wet. I have not run into any of the "certain people" referred to. I try to convince people that my opinion is one they should buy into. If they don't choose to do so, I wouldn't say they were impossible to talk too. My dislike for Mr. Beck is on the performance side. I don't like his mode of presentation -- It wears me out when he treats almost every sentence he says as if it's the most important thing every uttered -- I call it 'cartoon drama'. So, shouldn't we both be happy that he's apparently going on a platform that will make him less omnipresent?
 
jas2525 said:
johnbasalla said:
QUOTE: Beck is despicable. He has contributed mightily to the degrading of conversation in this country. I do not take that lightly, as it has far reaching consequences.

If the consequences were that far reaching, President Obama wouldn't have been elected President for one thing. Many top tier talkers have an ego to match. They think that they have more influence over the process, and the course of events, then they actually do. Unfortunately, due to their relative omnipresence, many people come to believe the same way.

So it has to be the most obvious and overt outcome for you to understand the damage?

Tell me, have you tried to talk to certain people these days, only to find them impossible to talk to because of Beck's re-education program? You think that is without consequence in the aggregate?

Guess again.
There are 'certain people' who are 'impossible to talk to' that don't even listen to Beck's re-education program.
What do we do about the source of their 'damage?' We're gonna need a whole lot more new -isms and boogeymen.
 
Just curious. Has the beckster's radio fiasco turned into an infomercial for all of his internet ventures? If so, he should be paying his affiliates. If he's not paying, then his affiliates should charge him at the high end of the rate card. No Pay... No Say.

I won't waste my electricity on the dude.
 
Re: Just curious.

radiowizard101 said:
Has the beckster's radio fiasco turned into an infomercial for all of his internet ventures?

Ya THINK???

But since, at many affiliates, MANAGEMENT ISN'T LISTENING, he'll get away with it, just like Rush Limbaugh does, systematically-and-relentlessly plugging Dittocam, which forces listeners to turn-off the affiliate (since Dittocam video is asynchronous to affiliate audio).
 
Quote: "... which forces listeners to turn-off the affiliate..."

Nobody is FORCED to do anything. It may encourage some to turn off the radio, but not force them to.
 
johnbasalla said:
Quote: "... which forces listeners to turn-off the affiliate..."

Nobody is FORCED to do anything. It may encourage some to turn off the radio, but not force them to.

Such an apologist.

If you are going to access the dittocam, why would you keep the radio station going if the audio isn't synched? Who would allow that? Because of this issue, you basically are FORCED to turn off the affiliate, unless you enjoy hearing a constantly redundant dialogue. Come to think of it, his whole show is that anyway.

Use a little common sense.
 
Re: Just curious.

Holland Cooke said:
radiowizard101 said:
Has the beckster's radio fiasco turned into an infomercial for all of his internet ventures?

Ya THINK???

But since, at many affiliates, MANAGEMENT ISN'T LISTENING, he'll get away with it, just like Rush Limbaugh does, systematically-and-relentlessly plugging Dittocam, which forces listeners to turn-off the affiliate (since Dittocam video is asynchronous to affiliate audio).
How many listeners is this an issue for?
Do you have any membership numbers for Rush 24/7?
 
Come to think of it, isn't that rush tea a product? How much of it has been sold? Have the affiliates made any money off of this stuff? All of this merchandizing and no return going to the stations that advertize these products???? I think this could possibly be PLUGOLA. Somebody's pockets are getting lined, and it is definitely not the affiliates that are carrying these crappy shows that are selling a lot of crap. IS ANYBODY MINDING THE STORE??? Which way is the dollar flowing? Reminds me of the days of payola, except in this instance it's product promotion without paying the most important connection in the pipeline... the actual radio stations ADVERTISING their junk. If you have something to sell, you should pay. I'll say it again... NO PAY, NO SAY!
 
Quote: "you basically are FORCED to turn off the affiliate,"

No, you are not forced. Like you said... "IF you are going to access the dittocam ... " No one has to turn on the dittocam. You can just ignore it and continue listening to the radio. I have no interest in looking at it, so my radio stays on as I think is the case with most people, particularly since lots of radio listening happens in the car. If you choose to turn on the dittocam, then you either make the switch or turn the sound down on the dittocam feed if you have better sound quality from the radio station. As I've said, I've never partaken in the dittocam thing. What's there to look at?
 
DToTheJ said:
A night at the theater - okay, the park - turned ugly for Glenn Beck as he and his family were mocked by a person who was not very fond of Beck and his kind.

The next day, he "railed against New Yorkers" on his radio show. (Too bad New York radio listeners couldn't hear it, eh? Ranks right up there with how he described Philadelphia as "unsafe" around the time his Philly station dropped his show.)

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/glenn-beck-gets-bullied-hitchcock-screening

I am no fan of boorish behavior, but Glenn Beck is an idiot. He is a shock jock DJ who has a new schtick in talk radio, he thinks he can say anything and not suffer any consequences. Sorry Glenn, but you are a cartoon character and as such, you have to live with the stupid persona you created. You can't turn off the "Glenn Beck" character you created when you went into being a talk radio phoney. Its one thing to be a dick behind the mike, but in the real world, you gotta be ready for those that don't care for, no understand the character you created. Too bad....fame is a bitch.
 
Legend City said:
I am no fan of boorish behavior, but Glenn Beck is an idiot. He is a shock jock DJ who has a new schtick in talk radio, he thinks he can say anything and not suffer any consequences. Sorry Glenn, but you are a cartoon character and as such, you have to live with the stupid persona you created. You can't turn off the "Glenn Beck" character you created when you went into being a talk radio phoney. Its one thing to be a dick behind the mike, but in the real world, you gotta be ready for those that don't care for, no understand the character you created. Too bad....fame is a bitch.

Bingo.
 
jas2525 said:
johnbasalla said:
QUOTE: Beck is despicable. He has contributed mightily to the degrading of conversation in this country. I do not take that lightly, as it has far reaching consequences.

If the consequences were that far reaching, President Obama wouldn't have been elected President for one thing. Many top tier talkers have an ego to match. They think that they have more influence over the process, and the course of events, then they actually do. Unfortunately, due to their relative omnipresence, many people come to believe the same way.

So it has to be the most obvious and overt outcome for you to understand the damage?

Tell me, have you tried to talk to certain people these days, only to find them impossible to talk to because of Beck's re-education program? You think that is without consequence in the aggregate?

Guess again.

"Beck's re-education program?" Sorry, but a fair amount of people - not just in radio - are all guilty of holding said "re-education programs." I won't name names, and I don't even care to. Glenn is just guilty of being the most prominent person in the country to have offered a different take on history.

And quite frankly, given how most high school and college students don't have a clear grasp on history, government and economics... it's really our own society itself that needs to be blamed. We let it happen to ourselves because people thought simply throwing money at the problem would fix itself. And I see no hope for us whatsoever - Mike Judge was dead-on when he made the movie "Idiocracy."

Moreover, it started to become impossible to take with people about super-serious issues after the Bush-Gore Florida election debacle. It had nothing to do with Glenn... unless you count him working at the time for WFLA/Tampa, quite a drive from the debacle's epicenter of West Palm Beach. The 2008 Presidential campaign put the shoe on the other foot, and with the 2012 Presidential Campaign, the roles very well could be reversed yet again.

Our society indeed is damaged beyond repair.
 
Re: RE: "Beck deserves NO consideration."

Holland Cooke said:
When I was a young radio guy, The Boss was someone-my-age who probably hated all the Top 40 music that was making-him-money. But -- like righty Talk Radio's prevailing narrative today -- "it's that rock music...the kids like it."

When I was a young kid, The Boss was Bruce Springsteen. And he STILL is The Boss in my eyes... :)
 
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