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Gloria Allred goes after Rush.

Lkeller said:
Just perfect (sarcasm intended). If anything will bring Rush sympathy and support, it will be Gloria Allred going after him.

I remember when Karel was fired from KGO in 2008 during the 2008 elections he lost sponsors on KGO but resurfaced as a blogger for the Huffington Post and a syndicated talk host because of the "Joe the Plummer" Comments. Karel was supposed to be a potential candidate to replace Bernie Ward. I remember Imus got fired from MSNBC and WFAN 660 for Ho Jokes in 2007 but resurfaced on syndicated radio and Satellite radio. Also John and Ken was suspended on KFI in LA for Crack Jokes on Houston. Look at Savage He was fired from MSNBC for his Aids Comments and got a contracts to be on KNEW 910 AM. Or Juan Williams for his Muslim comments on Fox News he was fired from NPR and got promoted at Fox News and Of course Howard Stern for his Shock Jock Tactics on E and Syndicated radio before he went to Sirius. Well to see Rush Dissapear from KKSF, KFBK. Rush has to go to Sirius and sign a contract there.
 
recto101 said:
Lkeller said:
Just perfect (sarcasm intended). If anything will bring Rush sympathy and support, it will be Gloria Allred going after him.

I remember when Karel was fired from KGO in 2008 during the 2008 elections he lost sponsors on KGO but resurfaced as a blogger for the Huffington Post and a syndicated talk host because of the "Joe the Plummer" Comments. Karel was supposed to be a potential candidate to replace Bernie Ward. I remember Imus got fired from MSNBC and WFAN 660 for Ho Jokes in 2007 but resurfaced on syndicated radio and Satellite radio. Also John and Ken was suspended on KFI in LA for Crack Jokes on Houston. Look at Savage He was fired from MSNBC for his Aids Comments and got a contracts to be on KNEW 910 AM. Or Juan Williams for his Muslim comments on Fox News he was fired from NPR and got promoted at Fox News and Of course Howard Stern for his Shock Jock Tactics on E and Syndicated radio before he went to Sirius. Well to see Rush Dissapear from KKSF, KFBK. Rush has to go to Sirius and sign a contract there.

Rush doesn't need to go to Sirius. He's fine where he is. Whatever sponsors he has lost will be made up with others within a few weeks.

The NPR firing of Juan Williams was totally stupid...the suits there played into the hands of NPR's right-wing detractors. They should be ashamed. Clear Channel is not likely to be so politically correct. As long as Rush is bringing in the bucks, they will keep him on the air.
 
microbob said:
The truth is Clear Channel can't afford to lose Rush. They are 18 billion dollars in debt.

That's like saying that a certain TV network "couldn't afford to loose" Charlie Sheen. In radio, as in TV, the cold reality is that we are all replaceable. A company as large as Clear Channel could certainly find a replacement or multiple alternatives.
 
Laws that concern only women are often unconstitutional. The law would have to include men's chastity as well.

Look at KGO, people thought they would not fire their 4 main talk show hosts. Or look at Dr Laura, Stern Imus, etc. yep everyone can be fired. Some of the local law and doctor shows and real estate shows, infomercials, etc. might be a replacement for nationally syndicated shows. Maybe there will be a swing back to local (paid) programming.
 
RadioStarOne said:
Rush couldn't pay for this kind of exposure, what a genius!

Yeah, huge cume spikes that nobody wants to buy. He's brilliant all right.
 
MC said:
Laws that concern only women are often unconstitutional. The law would have to include men's chastity as well.

Shouldn't Gloria go after every hip hop artist on the planet?

After all, there probably aren't many rap lyrics without "bitches" or "ho's".

Under her logic, shouldn't these artists be prosecuted? :)
 
Steven Roy said:
Shouldn't Gloria go after every hip hop artist on the planet?

After all, there probably aren't many rap lyrics without "bitches" or "ho's".

Under her logic, shouldn't these artists be prosecuted? :)

Although I understand what you are saying and sympathize that these kind of lyrics should not be on the public airwaves bear in mind that the *ahem* "artists" are not addressing anyone specifically. They are cussing into the wind as it were and thus it is considered "art".
 
landtuna said:
Although I understand what you are saying and sympathize that these kind of lyrics should not be on the public airwaves bear in mind that the *ahem* "artists" are not addressing anyone specifically. They are cussing into the wind as it were and thus it is considered "art".

Everything that Rush says is political satire, and is protected by the first ammendment of the Constitution.

Who decides what is or is not insensitive? I'm really tired of our P.C. world. It's not just in the U.S. either.

Where is the outrage over women being stoned to death, or beheaded, in Muslim nations? No mention of that...ever...in the "media".

Freaking out over Rush, but not opposing violence against women in other nations, is total hypocrisy.

Maybe Carrie Underwood should be arrested for supporting violence in "before he cheats"? See how rediculous this is?
 
tripton99 said:
Sure wish it was someone with more credibility than Allred. She gives ambulance chasers a bad name.

So, let me get this straight. (1) You object to a lawyer who intervened for the safety of Michael Jackson's kids? (2) You object to the lawyer who represented Nicole Simpson's family in O.J. Simpson's murder case? (3) You object to her representing a teenage beating victim whose beating was filmed for the amusement of the 8 perpetrators?

Makes you seem rather heartless, does it not?
 
Steven Roy said:
Everything that Rush says is political satire, and is protected by the first ammendment of the Constitution.

So you're OK with Rush going on-air and calling your mother and sister prostitutes and sluts?

If he were to do that to my family members he'd be in court so fast his fat head would blow up.

But let's be fair.....what do you think would happen if your average local DJ uttered those same words?

Steven Roy said:
Who decides what is or is not insensitive? I'm really tired of our P.C. world. It's not just in the U.S. either.

I'm really surprised you are tired of plain and common good manners.....and, OBTW, charges that are not outright lies.

Steven Roy said:
Where is the outrage over women being stoned to death, or beheaded, in Muslim nations? No mention of that...ever...in the "media".

I can then assume you are not a reader of the mass media or you would have seen those stories. In any case, those are not germane to this thread.

Steven Roy said:
Freaking out over Rush, but not opposing violence against women in other nations, is total hypocrisy.

It would be if it were not happening....but it is. And again, you are changing the thread parameters. The discussion is what Rush verbalized.

Steven Roy said:
Maybe Carrie Underwood should be arrested for supporting violence in "before he cheats"? See how rediculous this is?

I can't answer that because I doubt I've ever heard Carrie Underwood. But, I assume you've quoted song lyrics which do not target a specific person. As far as I know shouting into the wind is not a crime unless you are inciting violence or yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. Song lyrics which do not identify a specific person would also not be considered slander or a threat.

See how ridiculous you are?
 
landtuna said:
Everything that Rush says is political satire, and is protected by the first amendment of the Constitution.

Nope. He's constricted by the same libel/defamation laws anyone else is.

landtuna said:
Who decides what is or is not insensitive?

The legal considerations go beyond "insensitive". As to who decides - the courts, which is where Allred is taking this.

landtuna said:
Where is the outrage over women being stoned to death, or beheaded, in Muslim nations? No mention of that...ever...in the "media".

Plenty of that in the feminist and non-mainstream press, and frequently there, too. It does not go unnoted. And covering one does not negate paying attention to the other.

landtuna said:
Freaking out over Rush, but not opposing violence against women in other nations, is total hypocrisy.

Strawman argument - see above.

Hmmm, my quotes came out attributed to the wrong person. Sorry, landtuna! No time to fix it, I gotta show to put together!
 
landtuna said:
So you're OK with Rush going on-air and calling your mother and sister prostitutes and sluts?

If he were to do that to my family members he'd be in court so fast his fat head would blow up.<<

Steven Roy said:
Who decides what is or is not insensitive? I'm really tired of our P.C. world. It's not just in the U.S. either.

I'm really surprised you are tired of plain and common good manners.....and, OBTW, charges that are not outright lies.

Steven Roy said:
Maybe Carrie Underwood should be arrested for supporting violence in "before he cheats"? See how rediculous this is?

See how ridiculous you are?

If Rush said such about my mother, I wouldn't rush to litigate (as so many do in CA). I know it's not true. I WOULD support his right to say so. Was it Voltaire that said, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it"?

Maybe the woman from the fake congressional hearing really is a slut? I had a couple law classes. The burden of proof that she was defamed is on the plaintiff. I'm sure the defendant, Rush, could parade out every man...or woman...this woman has ever slept with. Sure, let's tie this one up in court for years. Is it still true there are more lawyers in law school, in CA, than now practicing law?

Yes, I was being rediculous. I guess you didn't get that. I was being totally sarcastic. Just like you cannot tell when Rush is being silly.
 
Steven Roy said:
If Rush said such about my mother, I wouldn't rush to litigate (as so many do in CA). I know it's not true. I WOULD support his right to say so. Was it Voltaire that said, "I may not agree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it"?

Put your mother in a position where her character could be questioned and then have Rush spew his trash and see what your reaction is. I am pretty sure....no, pretty positive no rational son would take that crap. I know I would jump to defend my mother's honor. You may feel different.

I'm equally sure Voltaire was not defending the ability of someone to defame another person when he made his famous quote. Matter of fact, I'm sure of it. In his day personal honor was much more important than it seems to be today and he most probably would have settled his disagreement on the dueling grounds.

Steven Roy said:
Maybe the woman from the fake congressional hearing really is a slut? I had a couple law classes. The burden of proof that she was defamed is on the plaintiff. I'm sure the defendant, Rush, could parade out every man...or woman...this woman has ever slept with. Sure, let's tie this one up in court for years. Is it still true there are more lawyers in law school, in CA, than now practicing law?

It has become clear you have issues with things not a direct part of this event. The fact that a woman, like a man, has multiple sex partners does not make either a "slut". And a woman is a prostitute only if she takes gratuities in turn for sexual favors. That is a pretty easy thing to prove one way or the other.

Steven Roy said:
Yes, I was being rediculous. I guess you didn't get that. I was being totally sarcastic. Just like you cannot tell when Rush is being silly.

I don't listen to Rush. I wouldn't waste my time with bottom feeders like Rush. And after listening to his comments (recorded) he was not being any more ridiculous or silly than you were. If he was as serious as he sounded he deserves every punishment allowed within the law. And if he was not he deserves to lose his ability to foam up the dittoheads with messages of hate and ridicule.

Please note that sarcasm does not translate well when written. I doubt anyone who read your post would have agreed that it was sarcastic. If it is your intent to be sarcastic you need to provide a few clues to so indicate.
 
No free speech on broadcast radio or TV in the USA other than political ads for candidates. That is why there are things you can't show and say on the radio and tube.
No porn or dirty words. Cable, satellite, Internet are different as are books and newspapers.
 
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