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kentuckymedia said:
Right now Clear Channel has Country, Top 40, AC, Classic Hits and News/Talk.

CC doesn't have a Classic Hits in Columbus. Maybe you're thinking of the Brew, since they sometimes stray to the poppier side of Rock. But that station's a very different animal from the stations that label themselves Classic Hits these days.
 
There's a lot Columbus doesn't have, but Rhythmic/Urban has to be the best choice. It can hurt Power 107-5, but also protect 'NCI. Why not? 107 needs competition to show them who's boss anyway. They suck!
 
lovejamminoldies said:
There's a lot Columbus doesn't have, but Rhythmic/Urban has to be the best choice. It can hurt Power 107-5, but also protect 'NCI. Why not? 107 needs competition to show them who's boss anyway. They suck!

If 106.7 goes RHY/CHR I could see WNCI make a move towards Adult CHR or HOT AC...which would take on Mix 97.1 and 106.7 if RHY/CHR could take on 107.5 which with WCOL and WLZT and WTVN could score up the higher spots in the arbs.
 
xmusicmatt said:
lovejamminoldies said:
There's a lot Columbus doesn't have, but Rhythmic/Urban has to be the best choice. It can hurt Power 107-5, but also protect 'NCI. Why not? 107 needs competition to show them who's boss anyway. They suck!

If 106.7 goes RHY/CHR I could see WNCI make a move towards Adult CHR or HOT AC...which would take on Mix 97.1 and 106.7 if RHY/CHR could take on 107.5 which with WCOL and WLZT and WTVN could score up the higher spots in the arbs.

I don't see WNCI changing reguardless of what shows up on 106.7. Besides, during they mid-day they pretty much are Adult CHR.

And criticize Power 107 all you want but their numbers are great, they're obviously doing something right.. and don't even THINK about giving me that "its only because they're the only station" BS.. If they were truly terrible, they wouldn't be number 1, 2, or even 3.
 
kentuckymedia said:
Chillicothe/WCH has been eyed by a group with the name Buckeye Broadcast Communications. BBC has a chief investor by the name of Randy Michaels. But ironically it has a secondary investor who happens to own a crap load of stations in West Virginia.

Despite the publicly advertised "hub and spoke" theory, wasn't the whole point of owning all of these small market stations really to control the signals so that move-ins to the larger markets could be facilitated?

Interesting that Randy would be sweet on Chillicothe. Has NONE of the attributes he has looked for in the past...no big signals, no rimshot or move-in potential. Or is it that all the big signals in the area except for WPAY are gone? Last time I was driving along the new US 35 freeway, I was thinking to myself that this place might have the potential for some growth. Does he know something we don't?
 
DaytonRadio said:
xmusicmatt said:
lovejamminoldies said:
There's a lot Columbus doesn't have, but Rhythmic/Urban has to be the best choice. It can hurt Power 107-5, but also protect 'NCI. Why not? 107 needs competition to show them who's boss anyway. They suck!

If 106.7 goes RHY/CHR I could see WNCI make a move towards Adult CHR or HOT AC...which would take on Mix 97.1 and 106.7 if RHY/CHR could take on 107.5 which with WCOL and WLZT and WTVN could score up the higher spots in the arbs.

I don't see WNCI changing reguardless of what shows up on 106.7. Besides, during they mid-day they pretty much are Adult CHR.

And criticize Power 107 all you want but their numbers are great, they're obviously doing something right.. and don't even THINK about giving me that "its only because they're the only station" BS.. If they were truly terrible, they wouldn't be number 1, 2, or even 3.

Actually.. them being the only Urban outlet in the city does have a major effect. They aren't sounding all that good. Wait till the CC Rhythmic CHR comes, they better give them a run from their money.
 
MikeStandardsFromIndiana said:
Clear Channel owns Fox Sports radio they can rip it away from WTDA any time they want if they want to make a sports station
No question about that. However, to be a player with a sports format they'd have to do a lot more than Fox Sports and Jim Rome, like local programming in key dayparts among other things. They wouldn't dare put that on the new FM. Maybe WYTS if they want to pull themselves out of the basement.
 
SportsRadioDoc said:
MikeStandardsFromIndiana said:
Clear Channel owns Fox Sports radio they can rip it away from WTDA any time they want if they want to make a sports station
No question about that. However, to be a player with a sports format they'd have to do a lot more than Fox Sports and Jim Rome, like local programming in key dayparts among other things. They wouldn't dare put that on the new FM. Maybe WYTS if they want to pull themselves out of the basement.
All I Was saying is that just because WTDA uses FSR Right now doesnt mean if CC wanted to put it on one of the Columbus Stations all they have to do is give WTDA its 90 day out clause or just risk a lawsuit and yank it off of WTDA. and im Sure WMRN's new Dublin frequency will have better coverage than WTDA does in Downtown Columbus if CC wanted to put Sports on FM or even WYTS
 
I hate to see 106.7 go Rhythmic only because Power while small is still mighty, and Radio One isnt that bad of a company.

Clear Channel on the other hand treats their employees like numbers and chess pieces. All 106.7 will do is spoil...thats it, no power player..nothing, just spoil! How fair is that?

I used to agree with LoveJamminOldies on somethings but realisticly...Channel in Dayton is the worst excuse for a CHR ive ever listened to and Power while it may not be the best, isnt half bad.
 
gr8oldies said:
WTVN-FM on 93.3 makes the most sense of anything that's been mentioned.

I agree except for the cannibalization factor. Talk about running your successful AM into the ground.

As for 106.7 going rhythmic, I don't see how 7,300 watts is enough to take out 107.5. Different story if they throw 93.3 at them.
 
boyphenom said:
gr8oldies said:
WTVN-FM on 93.3 makes the most sense of anything that's been mentioned.

I agree except for the cannibalization factor. Talk about running your successful AM into the ground.

As for 106.7 going rhythmic, I don't see how 7,300 watts is enough to take out 107.5. Different story if they throw 93.3 at them.

That's more wattage than 107.5 has, the only perk 107.5 has for that class A signal is its on a roof top downtown Columbus. Depending on intermod and all such downtown, 106.7 should in theory put a good signal into it and 106.7 will not have a problem hitting the burbs looking at the coverage maps for both WCKX and the new WMRN-FM.
 
boyphenom said:
gr8oldies said:
WTVN-FM on 93.3 makes the most sense of anything that's been mentioned.

I agree except for the cannibalization factor. Talk about running your successful AM into the ground.

But WTVN on 93.3 takes care of their nighttime signal problem to the south. This extended daylight savings has got to be hurting them right now. Also WTVN winter numbers always hurt, expecially if a lot of the diaries are to the south where they have that signal problem. If they added both the AM and FM ratings (if they simulcast on 93.3), it would make them the #1 station in this market. WTVN on FM as well will only help them, in both rating and money, not hurt them, and I bet CC heads don't see that.
 
Columbus still has a dearth of really good FM signals compared to other markets this size, yet everyone's encouraging a simulcast.  Sheesh.  In all those markets where good signals are more plentiful a logical argument could be made for the value proposition of a simulcast.  But here it would neither serve the public nor make economic sense.  So it will probably happen. Sigh...
 
kentuckymedia said:
I hate to see 106.7 go Rhythmic only because Power while small is still mighty, and Radio One isnt that bad of a company.

Clear Channel on the other hand treats their employees like numbers and chess pieces. All 106.7 will do is spoil...thats it, no power player..nothing, just spoil! How fair is that?

I used to agree with LoveJamminOldies on somethings but realisticly...Channel in Dayton is the worst excuse for a CHR ive ever listened to and Power while it may not be the best, isnt half bad.

Regarding Channel 945 in Dayton, I can only defend them so long. Drake (the PD) seems like a cool dude, but he has no idea what kind of mess he's making them sound like. It's like... why try anymore? I only defend Channel 945 to a standpoint because I always have. I'm not going to 100% turn on them all of a sudden because they sound like crap. I was never a big fan of Z93. Channel is obviously doing something right. They're the leading CHR in the city. But.... that's because of the listener-created drops. Whatever. Anyway... Power 1075 is OKAY. For the capital city they should be ON IT. There's soooooooooo many rhythmic/urban jams they could be on, but they're not. When the new rhythmic/urban comes on 106.7, it will give them a run for their money. Clear Channel doesn't mess around with that format. I have good feelings about that. And they better stream. ;)
 
I'm telling you guys. WTVN will be both on AM and FM.
I really think this is happening. This will kill 103.9 and CC will have entire ownership of news/talk just like they do in Cincinnati.
First of all, CC won't kill 103.9. They're already DOA. It would make sense to simulcast WTVN on an FM to fill in that nighttime coverage hole to the south. However, with the new 106.7 being a class B-1 with its tower north of Westerville in Delaware Co, the signal barely makes it out of Franklin Co. to the south and doesn't help much. Here's an interesting scenario.... the new 102.5 signal would add some significant coverage to the south. What if CC swapped 106.7 for 102.5 and then simulcast WTVN? What do you do with 106.7? How about a simulcast with 107.1? There would have to be some high-level horse trading to get this done, but stranger thing have happened.
 
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