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Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen (Part I)

In what was originally to be a one-installment movie, but has now been turned into a miniseries, the shutdown of several analog television signals is hours away. The stirring finale will be on June 12th.

Will anyone miss analog TV? As a person who likes the latest and greatest, I even get a little teary eyed at the change. Whether you are 26 or 46 or 66, this is the TV technology everyone grew up on, although very few people even use rabbit ears anymore because of the 500 channel universe of cable (I grew up with cable).

I hope everything works out in the end and no one is left out.
 
No denying things will be different tomorrow morning in some places. I personally watched WWNY over-the-air growing up when we visited my grandparents, and that station is shutting off analog tonight. According to CKWS in Kingston, DTV converter boxes have been selling quite well in Kingston as a result, even though CKWS and other Canadian stations don't have to switch until 2011.
 
jal41 said:
Will anyone miss analog TV? As a person who likes the latest and greatest, I even get a little teary eyed at the change. Whether you are 26 or 46 or 66, this is the TV technology everyone grew up on, although very few people even use rabbit ears anymore because of the 500 channel universe of cable (I grew up with cable).

Well, I'm not quite to 66 but no, I will not miss analog TV. I own several sets but two are almost antiques. One is circa 1979 and the other 1987. Both still work fine but adding a converter box to each has resulted in a very clear picture - virtually as good as when the sets were new. They may outlast me!

And a pox on your "rabbit ears" comment. I have a rooftop antenna connected to one set but use rabbit ears on the others simply because I'm too damned lazy to run more coax. And, in rummaging through my old storage box of TV crap, I find several more bow tie ears. I may never have to buy another antenna (or convert a valuable old coat hanger) again! ;D
 
The Coat Hanger Antenna!

landtuna said:

(or convert a valuable old coat hanger) again! ;D
Ah, The COAT HANGER ANTENNA. I remember that. Those were the days! Any others who used a Coat Hanger?
 
jal41 said:
In what was originally to be a one-installment movie, but has now been turned into a miniseries, the shutdown of several analog television signals is hours away. The stirring finale will be on June 12th.

Will anyone miss analog TV? As a person who likes the latest and greatest, I even get a little teary eyed at the change. Whether you are 26 or 46 or 66, this is the TV technology everyone grew up on, although very few people even use rabbit ears anymore because of the 500 channel universe of cable (I grew up with cable).

I hope everything works out in the end and no one is left out.
I will not miss analog TV. Digital TV is better.
 
Re: The Coat Hanger Antenna!

Madmansam said:
Ah, The COAT HANGER ANTENNA. I remember that. Those were the days! Any others who used a Coat Hanger?

Some TV stations are suggesting using something as simple as a paper clip, if you lived close enough to the transmitter.
 
I've not heard that officially suggested, but hey...

And I have done it before (during a 8-day power outage caused by Hurricane Ike, when my rooftop antenna was destroyed) using a USB ATSC tuner on my laptop, and at 35 miles from the towers in two markets, it worked great! 75-85% on all the full-power stations.
 
Re: The Coat Hanger Antenna!

azumanga said:
Madmansam said:
Ah, The COAT HANGER ANTENNA. I remember that. Those were the days! Any others who used a Coat Hanger?

Some TV stations are suggesting using something as simple as a paper clip, if you lived close enough to the transmitter.

We've been doing that here in Rochester, since many of our viewers are within a couple of miles of our in-city transmitter site.

I won't miss the experience of watching analog TV - good HD is just too darned good - but there's something rather sobering in realizing that I just watched programming end on the very first TV station I ever watched signing on. Indeed, WUHF 31 here in Rochester leaves the air (in two weeks, when it's done running its nightlight loop) from the very same Harris transmitter it used to sign on back in January 1980.

Amazing to think that I watched that first sign-on in front of my family's 1973-vintage 25" Zenith, and here I am watching the end on a 46" Sony LCD - and that that first sign-on reached me via our newly-installed cable service, with all of 30 channels (of which about 20 had actual programming), while I now have 500+ channels to choose from.

Even more amazing to think that in a few months' time, I'll not only be there when they press the button to turn off the analog signal of my own station...but that there's a good chance (depending on what we put on our nightlight loop) that I might be the last voice heard on that transmitter.
 
I would have figured with the analog switchoff that there would have been at least some farewell message broadcast at the end of regular programming. I grew up in the UK and I've been used to switchovers when the local ITV franchise changed hands.

Someone else on this board posted a message that one local station in Madison, WI did do a nice shutdown piece - the national anthem followed by the engineer hitting the "off" switch - I watched that bit. But here in GSO, the stations that switched went straight to nitelite mode. No fanfare, no pomp or circumstance... it was just end of one program and into the new service.

Maybe the proper switchoff will have more fanfare by the stations that actually care to serve the community.

Mark.
 
Mark Wooldridge said:
I would have figured with the analog switchoff that there would have been at least some farewell message broadcast at the end of regular programming. I grew up in the UK and I've been used to switchovers when the local ITV franchise changed hands.

Someone else on this board posted a message that one local station in Madison, WI did do a nice shutdown piece - the national anthem followed by the engineer hitting the "off" switch - I watched that bit. But here in GSO, the stations that switched went straight to nitelite mode. No fanfare, no pomp or circumstance... it was just end of one program and into the new service.

Maybe the proper switchoff will have more fanfare by the stations that actually care to serve the community.

Mark.

Understand, please, that I'm speaking here only for myself and not for any of my employers...

There is - how to put this gently? - a certain resentment on the part of some in the TV world about the way that the switchover has ended up going in the last few weeks.

Many stations had plans that were very carefully worked out for the changeover, and many of them had those plans massively disrupted at the last second by the sudden move to delay things until June. That's caused a tremendous amount of behind-the-scenes scrambling as budgets and work schedules have been adjusted and as innumerable filings have had to be made, on incredibly short notice, to the FCC.

Which is to say that by the time midnight came along tonight, a lot of people behind the scenes in the business had been running without much sleep for the last week, and were feeling a little less than celebratory about the whole event. (This is especially true of the stations that actually did sign off tonight, as many had to submit LOTS of last-second paperwork to make it happen, not to mention having to devote staffing at the last second to call centers or walk-in centers mandated by the FCC.) Do please note that this particular staffing is what the FCC (if not the denizens of this board) is looking for when it comes to "serving the community."

I know a couple of engineers who would very much love to have done something more than just throwing the switch on the remote control, but the rush of the last couple of weeks simply made it impossible.

On top of that, there's the sense that anybody still watching OTA analog at this point - again, how to put this gently? - probably isn't especially interested in TV history.

I'm hopeful that by the time June 12 comes along, we'll all have had a chance to breathe a bit and can mark the moment with a bit more ceremony.
 
Scott Fybush said:
On top of that, there's the sense that anybody still watching OTA analog at this point - again, how to put this gently? - probably isn't especially interested in TV history.

Hey! I switched from my digital converter to analog at 11:55PM to see the shutdown, because I care about TV history. Sadly, none of Houston's stations did. Oh well....

I won't miss analog. I do miss TV shows and personalities, but the technology must move forward. Long live DTV! ;D
 
I will miss DX-ing. Then again, I haven't "DX-ed" even radio for about ten years...

Mark Wooldridge said:
Someone else on this board posted a message that one local station in Madison, WI did do a nice shutdown piece - the national anthem followed by the engineer hitting the "off" switch - I watched that bit.

Oooh, I wonder if that's on YouTube...
 
Nothing stopping you from DXing DTV. I do it plenty.

- Trip
 
TV - then and now

Scott Fybush said:
I won't miss the experience of watching analog TV - good HD is just too darned good - but there's something rather sobering in realizing that I just watched programming end on the very first TV station I ever watched signing on. Indeed, WUHF 31 here in Rochester leaves the air (in two weeks, when it's done running its nightlight loop) from the very same Harris transmitter it used to sign on back in January 1980.

Amazing to think that I watched that first sign-on in front of my family's 1973-vintage 25" Zenith, and here I am watching the end on a 46" Sony LCD - and that that first sign-on reached me via our newly-installed cable service, with all of 30 channels (of which about 20 had actual programming), while I now have 500+ channels to choose from.

I too watched WUHF's sign-on in 1980. I think my family was a bit annoyed that I was watching the test pattern that night, waiting for sign-on. Unfortunately, without a proper UHF rooftop antenna, the station was always a bit snowy from my location, as was WXXI. Somehow, we put up with it. Last year, I bought HDTVs and donated my old analog TVs to my church. Last week, one of the children was watching a video on one of them - I was amazed at what poor quality picture it had.

I pick up signals from nearly 100 miles away crystal-clear. No, I won't be missing analog much, even if I'll probably never again pick up Little Rock AR, Tulsa OK, Houston TX, Corpus Christi TX and Matamoros, Mexico from my Phoenix-area home using $10 rabbit ears.
 
Re: TV - then and now

dhett said:
I pick up signals from nearly 100 miles away crystal-clear. No, I won't be missing analog much, even if I'll probably never again pick up Little Rock AR, Tulsa OK, Houston TX, Corpus Christi TX and Matamoros, Mexico from my Phoenix-area home using $10 rabbit ears.

Just curious: which Houston stations were you able to pick up?
 
I will respectfully miss analog TV, though I have come to like digital due to the expanded variety on the subchannels. With analog and the possibility of turning the knob of the old set in the days before remote control, I always felt I might find something new. Imagine the marvel of tuning in a snowy screen from a far-away city, or at least to a kid, seemed a far-away city. Seems the world gets smaller as we age.

I think something will be missed with the passing of analog TV. Much like the old days of radio, we scanned the radio horizon seeking some perceivable response. Those days are lost when we punch in a pre-selected channel, but these are the days of instant gratification. Discovery is an antique concept to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXv8CPPPG7g
 
Re: TV - then and now

thathoustonradiogeek said:
dhett said:
I pick up signals from nearly 100 miles away crystal-clear. No, I won't be missing analog much, even if I'll probably never again pick up Little Rock AR, Tulsa OK, Houston TX, Corpus Christi TX and Matamoros, Mexico from my Phoenix-area home using $10 rabbit ears.

Just curious: which Houston stations were you able to pick up?

Most likely the same one I saw from Virginia, KPRC.

One month a few summers ago, the e-skip was so consistent, I could watch the evening local news on KPRC reliably pretty much every evening.

- Trip
 
Re: TV - then and now

tripinva said:
thathoustonradiogeek said:
Just curious: which Houston stations were you able to pick up?

Most likely the same one I saw from Virginia, KPRC.

One month a few summers ago, the e-skip was so consistent, I could watch the evening local news on KPRC reliably pretty much every evening.

Y'know, for nearly 60 years it seems KPRC has been the nation's DX station... Just about *everyone* who DXs TV has seen KPRC. I've seen it here (near Nashville) via E-skip, via tropo, and it's the only TV station I've ever identified via meteor-scatter.

And if the *real* DX loggings of KPRC weren't enough, it's also the station (under different call letters at the time) that was targeted by the British scammers responsible for the "5,000-mile DX of a station that's been off the air for a year" phenomonon.
 
Re: TV - then and now

w9wi said:
tripinva said:
thathoustonradiogeek said:
Just curious: which Houston stations were you able to pick up?

Most likely the same one I saw from Virginia, KPRC.

One month a few summers ago, the e-skip was so consistent, I could watch the evening local news on KPRC reliably pretty much every evening.

Y'know, for nearly 60 years it seems KPRC has been the nation's DX station... Just about *everyone* who DXs TV has seen KPRC. I've seen it here (near Nashville) via E-skip, via tropo, and it's the only TV station I've ever identified via meteor-scatter.

And if the *real* DX loggings of KPRC weren't enough, it's also the station (under different call letters at the time) that was targeted by the British scammers responsible for the "5,000-mile DX of a station that's been off the air for a year" phenomonon.

KPRC, naturally. More than likely, the really long-distance loggings are going to be low-VHF stations, and most of mine have come on channel 2. (KETS, KJRH, KPRC, XHRIO, KACV, KCWX) Houston's location near the E/W center of the nation helps greatly.

Side note - KVBC Las Vegas NV will keep their DTV signal on channel 2 for anyone looking for a DX target. Unfortunately for me, a nearby mountain in that direction means I'm out of luck there.
 
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