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goodbye frank?

There is no question 107.5's signal is very poor in the Easton area.

It was barely able to be heard yesterday; 107.5 out of New York was coming in.

The signal improved today, but it is no way near the quality of the old Frank FM. Not even close.

If this is a permanent thing, I can't see the station ever going into Philly or its suburbs ever again.

And I doubt how many people would want to listen to the new 107.5 anyway.

I would think 99.9 should be happy about this, especially a little west of the Allentown area.

Classic Hits wouldn't be dead if we redefined what the word classic means. It doesn't mean the same old tired songs. There are so many classics out there.

Not to play God, no pun intended 107.5, but who is the magic guru that determines the narrow playlist?
 
rizman1313 said:
My final note. Y-102: the station that is lucky and not very good , has over 80,000 listeners in Philadelphia, shows up in Lancaster, Harrisburg, and Allentown. By the way has double the listeners of the next radio station in Berks. Sometimes jealousy can blind people to the facts
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Notice that the averAge person can't look at the reading ratings. I wonder why? Does cc really own the reading market in the ratings or is that what they want everyone tothink. I gaurentee more people listen to Philly radio in reading, than people listening to reading radio in Philly. WMMR has tons or listeners in reading, I know this beccause they call into the station for requests and contests. Now I can't say this for sure because I don't listen to y102, but I doubt many Philly area people call into y102.
 
You have to be kidding right? Y102 kicks MMR's ass in Reading/Berks. The numbers have been posted here before. I don't have them at my fingertips, but I will call somebody and post them for you. MMR is a great Major Market station. But they get maybe a 3 share in Reading. Lets get over this please. Perhaps we should start a new discussion about the Value of HD Radio (there is none). It would be a welcome change on this site;.
 
rizman1313 said:
First its not me that claims that y-102 has listeners in Philly. Its the PPM. Second WFKB's does go further into Phila and Allentown then WRFY. Maybe that why they have more listeners in those markets then y-102. Did you listen to their promos. they mentioned Chester,Montgomery,Allentown. I don't think the average Joe in Philly knew who Frank was either.Maybe you need a new radio if you can only pick y-102 as far as King of Prussia. By the way the Philly numbers don't include Berks.
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Um...Frank never mentioned Allentown in their promos or imaging. I know because I WROTE a good deal of the imaging and promos and didn't even think about Allentown when it came to that stuff...

And the average Joe DID know who Frank was inside the Philly market. I used to get calls from as far southeast as the Philadelphia Airport, Bryn Mawr, Broomall and Chadds Ford, as far northeast as NE Philly, Doylestown and Yardley and as far south as Wilmington, DE...and I know the signal reaches that far because I used to commute from Wilmington when Frank was in it's infantcy...

And it was you who said Y102 had 80,000 listeners in Philly BECAUSE of the PPM but neglected to mention that FRANK had as many if not more, because of the PPM...

And I know the Philly numbers don't include Berks. In the end, FRANK tried to become a Tri-county station to capitalize on what strengths we had, as far as signal and listenership went. There's no crime in doing what we were hired to try and do, which is make a little $$$...we knew WRFY was strong as far as hertiage and signal went. It was them who took the 'us against the world' stance.....
 
backinblack said:
You have to be kidding right? Y102 kicks MMR's ass in Reading/Berks. The numbers have been posted here before. I don't have them at my fingertips, but I will call somebody and post them for you. MMR is a great Major Market station. But they get maybe a 3 share in Reading. Lets get over this please. Perhaps we should start a new discussion about the Value of HD Radio (there is none). It would be a welcome change on this site;.
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i never said mmr beat y102 IN reading. i said mmr has more listeners in reading, than y102 does in philadelphia. in other words, mmr has more out of market listeners than y102. i would bet money on it.
 
eyg2181 said:
backinblack said:
You have to be kidding right? Y102 kicks MMR's ass in Reading/Berks. The numbers have been posted here before. I don't have them at my fingertips, but I will call somebody and post them for you. MMR is a great Major Market station. But they get maybe a 3 share in Reading. Lets get over this please. Perhaps we should start a new discussion about the Value of HD Radio (there is none). It would be a welcome change on this site;.
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i never said mmr beat y102 IN reading. i said mmr has more listeners in reading, than y102 does in philadelphia. in other words, mmr has more out of market listeners than y102. i would bet money on it.
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Ok, here ya go 12plus fall 08.....Berks Only....MMR 27,800. Y102 87,600. I don't remember what Y102 had in Philly book, which is probably Montgomery, and Chester. Does it matter? Your assumption that MMR has more listners in Berks
than Y102 is just plain wrong.! Does MMR have more listeners in the entire damn states of pa, nj, and del. Of course. I think Y102 had around 80 0r 90 thou in the philly ppm. Whats left to argue about?
 
I said it before...Nassau should have put a simulcast of The Bone on that stick, and they could have dominated the rock radio audience in South Eastern PA and the Lehigh Valley. But, considering it would be Nassau running things, they would have found a way to screw things up anyway. Corporate radio sucks, will always suck. Program what people really want to hear? Serve the public interest? What's that? God bless WBYN! ;D

(Notice I said South Eastern PA, and not Philly...)
 
I agree 100% if the bone was on 1075 and 1071, they would OWN. They might not beat MMR in Philly, but they would definitly pull in numbers there without a doubt. And I think then they might hurt y102
 
You're out of your frickin' mind. STILL thinking the OLD way Huh, Mike!!

Music has everything to do with it. Why do you think Country stations do so well?

You CANNOT keep playing the same crapola over and over and over again!!!

75% of listeners use Y102 for background noise...If they actually

listened they would change the dial, IF they could even get another station.

Real people who still listen to Radio, are NOT listening to Y-102 when they

want to, only when they HAVE to.

If I hear "Brown Eyed Girl" one more time, WTF*&!@!@*& AHHHHHHHH!

Corporate stations are failing because people can finally choose what music they

want to listen to, via their IPod, or whatever, and believe me they are NOT

listening to whatever it is that Y-102 is playing.

Alot of Fantastic music has been missed because some stations

REFUSE to go out on the limb, and play something that hasn't been

heard for a while!! Just because it wasn't a HIT!!

And that's why I walked OFF THE AIR!!!
 
DaBear said:
.............Alot of Fantastic music has been missed because some stations

REFUSE to go out on the limb, and play something that hasn't been

heard for a while!! Just because it wasn't a HIT!!............
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Disagree with this.

The other day I heard Asia's 'The smile has left your eyes' ; an old time forgotten favorite of mine...what a treat to hear this and be reminded of those days back then.....


Frank was an Ok station, it would still be around if their parent company was in good health. Not sure why they even targeted Reading anyway. They should have stuck with Boyertown/nearby communites, Northern Chester and Montgomery counties which I believe they ended up doing before they left the air, no mention of Reading anymore.
 
FRANK was nothing more than a 'hit and run' radio station, meaning they blew in to town, sucked some money out of the local economy and split. I don't think there was ever really a plan to keep FRANK around all that long. The programming was weak and refused to evolve. By today's radio definition of 'classic HITS' , you play not only Billy Joel and Elton John ad nauseum, but also your share of Motown and 70's schlock that made it through the final days of calling them 'Oldies'. FRANK didn't do that. By today's radio definition of 'classic ROCK', you play your Zeppelins, Stones, and Van Halens, but get rid of your Loggins and Messina, 10CC and James Taylor, plus you play more than 1 song from 1 album from your core artists. Again, something FRANK didn't do. It just leads me to believe that it made it that much harder to sell a station that had such an identity crisis...
 
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