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Goodbye John Boy and Billy

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Smartyradiopants

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Read in yesterday's Jackson Sun that they're looking for a morning person(s) for Rock 92.3. I guess the rumors are true that John Boy and Billy are toast in Jackson. (perhaps a format flip is just around the corner?)
 
I saw the ad in allaccess.com. I didn't know they had JB&B. They were okay for a while, until all the "new" wore off. Now it's all "Redneck Reruns."
 
Doing away with JB&B doesn't really surprise me any.
It may be kind of expensive, plus-they already have to pay someone to be there for the breaks and etc.
If they bring it back live, they can probably have a couple of people there (one to do traffic, weather and news,etc...) and pay the two of them less than it costs to pay a sitter AND pay for the current show.

Is it a pre-cursor to a format flip?
I dunno...maybe...but let me ask this...
To what format would they flip?
Country? No...
Anything "urban" or "Hot hits?"...No, I don't think so.
Talk? No...Sports?...No
The only real possibility I can think of is some sort of "At Work" AC. (Think WRVR, only a tad hotter)
Whatever it is, it'll probably be live for only 1 or 2 shifts, with the rest either being syndicated or V/T.

Personally, I hope they leave the music alone on 92.

What do you think?
 
they are always repeating routines and just plain silly in my opinion but i like that old man onthere you dont know what you going to get with him. hes moody old cuss. high burnout factor gets old real quick. local radio going to come back it would be cheaper in most cases. rest of it a train wreck in a junk yard.
 
There was no one in the studio for JB&B it was run by computers and such... and that explains many of the problems that they had over the years. from what I heard a flip may come in a few years IF The current format can't generate more revenue... according to those that spoke of an interest in doing the morning show... the format would stay the same.
 
I'm still waiting for my steak dinner from the last "I'll bet you a steak dinner they're gonna change format to Jack" thread on here. ;) Welcher! LOOOOOOSER! I went to Russel's Beef House in Corinth last night and bought myself a 12 oz Ribeye anyway! Tastey! Anyone else wanna bet on the format for next year? This time, name, addy and phone number or don't waste my time! :-*
 
Well, JB&B are officially gone from Rock 92.3. This morning featured songs and sweepers, no jocks. Will there be jocks?

JB&B were consistently the top rated feature on Rock 92.3. I suppose it just cost too dang much to keep them on.

Rumor is JB&B will be landing on another station in the market very soon. (and not a rock station)
 
Smartyradiopants said:
Well, JB&B are officially gone from Rock 92.3. This morning featured songs and sweepers, no jocks. Will there be jocks?

JB&B were consistently the top rated feature on Rock 92.3. I suppose it just cost too dang much to keep them on.

Rumor is JB&B will be landing on another station in the market very soon. (and not a rock station)
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Really? "Top rated" eh? Maybe I'm looking at the wrong ratings book! LOL Suprising to me that someone wouldn't applaud the fact that a local show will be in place soon instead of a syndicated show or "cookie cutter" programing. *sigh* I guess you just can't please EVERYONE ;)
 
JBand B were okay. And yes, I'd MUCH prefer a local show-DONE WELL!!! There's the kicker.

See...it costs a lot for a syndicated show, but it costs a lot for a GOOD local show, too.
You can't gather up some jocks (1 or 2) and pay them 30K a year each and expect to get an awesome morning show. You can get someone adequate, maybe, but not a real quality and entertaining morning show.

If you were to get someone in that was pretty good for that kind of money, they won't stay long because someone further up the food chain will pay a bit more and take them away. Or...your own group will see that they have a winner at a good price and transfer the show to a larger market station within the group.

I think the most important thing for 92 to do with that great signal is to stay with the music format, make themselves as regional as possible, and put the best local shows on that they can afford. If they'd get more local and live (to hell WITH VOICE TRACKING) they'd have a product that will sell regionally. Quit trying to save so much money by running all the v/t crap and invest some in getting and keeping solid personel (like Mr. Rivers) and put live people on in all dayparts except overnights.

I think 92 could absolutely take over the Jackson market (Non-ethnic wise) and could really make a lot of money regionally by making this type of concerted effort. The bottom line is that this would bring more listeners and more listeners bring in more revenue. There is a good core there already for a good staff. Midday girl is okay, Gregg does a great job in PM drive (when he's there). Get a decent morning show (without all the "Zoo" attitude) and put a decent jock on at night...and it could be sucessful.

I still fear they will get a hair and change the format to some "Kim" or "Snap" type of crap and ruin the station altogether.
 
Gregg Rivers....There's A Name I Havn't Heard In A Long, Long Time.  How Are Things In J. Town My Friend?

The Titans Are Gone? J&B Are Gone? Looks Like Things Are A Lot Different Than A Couple Of Years Ago....Please Tell Me Megan Love Is Still In The Area.
 
"throw me a boooone here! I'm the boss! I need the infooo!" :p ;D
How are ya J Pat my friend? Yep it's about time some things got shook up around here and I'm all for it! Halla and we'll chat.
 
Yeah...things needed to be shook up there Greg. But when does the shaking up stop. After the "mass exodus" of last spring, now the replacement people are leaving. Don Elliott is gone. Bill Glass is leaving. and I hear that a couple more are preparing to leave. What's the deal?
 
Well I don't pretend to speak for Don...but he got a killer offer and frankly I don't blame him for taking it! He's standing right HERE now so...I'll let him answer if HE feels YOU need to know something! I hate to see him go because I really like working for Mr Elliott! (That's two L's and two T's!) ;)As for Bill...he QUIT. Ask HIM why! I "hear" more are re-upping their annual contracts! But what do I know! I also hear there's folks from other stations applying for gigs here too. Again, just rumors! By the way, WELCOME MIKE WALKER! You know "smarty" this is a fairly transient business. There's turn over in this business more than most. Look at me! I've worked for just about every station in this market. Why is it that YOU think it's different, or SHOULD be different HERE? Why does what goes on HERE seem to bother you so? Sour grapes? Personal vendetta? Bad karma? Passed over for a position here? Fired from here? What? ;) By the way, you should call Don and ask why he's leaving rather than try to GUESS! He takes calls ya know? Ha he might tell you "it ain't none of your business!" But be a man and ask him yourself!
 
Oh and J-Pat! Megan is working at 98.1 The Max in Memphis! She's doing great! AND! She's engaged to be married too! My adopted daughter is getting MARRIED! I'm so proud...and sad! They grow up so fast! But she sent me an email and asked if The Rock 92.3 House Band - The Remains will play at the reception! (Remeber she was our lead singer for a while!) I was hoping to get to walk her down the isle.... but I guess her real Dad gets that gig! LOL
 
WOW! I'm happy for her...that's awsome. I heard that CC sold the stations a few months back. Glad to hear things are going great for you and the new company. A friend of mine is PD of one of Forever's stations in Bowling Green. She let me know that her company had bought the stations that I used to work for. I talked to Burke a couple of weeks ago, he's the Op's manager for CC Augusta now. I'm in Nashville...Morning Producer/APD for WRQQ. I will have to catch up with you outside of the board. But, I was scrolling through this morning and saw your name and had to sign up and give you a shout. Talk to ya soon, brother.
 
Gregg, I know you're ignoring my posts because I said something bad about your apparent hero...but, ease up!
You DON'T have to kiss Mr. Elliott's (2 L's and 2T's) buttocks anymore. He's leaving.
And, no...this isn't sour grapes at all. All it took was a thirty second phone conversation for me to realize what kind of guy he is. He may be a radio programming genious for all I know...but he has the people skills of a slug. I'm not the guy you were smarting off to when you "stood up" for him...but how's that for being a man for you?
Next time Mr. Elliott (2L's and 2T's) is snuggling up at your desk with you...show him this one!

I will attempt to be at the big "Jimi Jamison of Survivor" show the Remains are opening for just up the road.
I'll try to bring a few of my good 'ol boy redneck buddies with me. We love to have some beers and listen to some good ol' rock and roll.

Hey! Why don't you bring Mr. Elliott (2 L's and 2 T's) with you?
I'd LOVE to meet him in person.
Looking forward to catching up with you some, too.
Oddly, I don't recall you being as cocky in person as you are on the board, here, but we never really knew each other that well.

Hug and Kiss Mr. Elliott (2 L's and 2 T's) for me, okay?

Relax, man! It's all in fun. If I can work it out, I will see you Saturday Night!

pgh/Meepster!

PS- and in all honesty, I've enjoyed what I've heard of the morning show since JB&B were removed. They ought to keep that (liners and rock) for a book and see how it does. If it does well, maybe they could do it in some other dayprts, too!
 
Meep, are you "Smarty?" If not my posts weren't addressed to you, but since you jumped in here, please allow me a response! I don't kiss anyone's ass! Well my wife's!!!!... but I'm sure you'd understand THAT! Don is a respectable guy and a good PD. Makes him in demand and thus he's received several offers over the past several months for other jobs. I ain't sugar coating or kissing up. Like you said he's leaving why should I care right? Well it because he's a good dude and I enjoyed working for and with him. That ain't kissing ass, that's a fact! As for his people skills, I NEVER had a problem with him in that respect. Maybe you just rubbed him the wrong way. He certainly did you huh!? ;) Oh I haven't been ignoring your posts, I just haven't seen one until today that required a response. Besides, you have my email addy and phone number. You have something you want to say important? Give me a ring! Or we can talk about whatever you like on Saturday! I look forward to it!

"Cocky" eh? :-\ I think I just have a very low BS tolerance level! I got that from a very dear friend of mine. The late great Rusty Mack. I can spot BS from a mile a way. You'll have to admit there's a lot of it around!
 
Ha!
There is a lot of that.
No, I'm not "Smarty". Don't know anything about that.
I just don't care for your buddy and his attitude and could not resist sharing my experience with him.
Truthfully, if I had more to say to you, I believe you know I'd say it!
I have no "sour grapes" toward the station or group or anything like that at all.
I just am of the opinion that he's an ass and thought I's share. (Couldn't let you sing his praises without the other side being heard)
As for kissin' his behind...if he's such a powerful dude on such a powerful trip, it might not be a bad idea.
People like him LOVE to surround themselves with agreeable little surfs to help them in the kingdom.
I have respect for you, Gregg, for sticking it out in radio through all the turnover (even your own---my God! How many stations have you worked for in West Tennessee?)
But to say you have a low BS tolerance is just this side of funny.
Obviously, you have a HUGE tolerance for it, or the management at these stations wouldn't be so fond of you to keep hiring you. You simply cannot work for as long as you have in a small market like Jackson-where everybody knows everybody else AND their business-without putting up with a GREAT DEAL of BS.
You may make someone else think so...but not me.

Good luck Gregg. I hope you remain as sucessful and employed as you have.
I look forward to seeing you tomorrow night.
(You sure you don't want to bring your buddy!?)

Meep
 
Oh wow! All this time (20 years now) and I thought people hired me because I had TALENT and worked HARD! But it's was my ability to tolerate BS? :-\ Geez Meep! That's genius man! So those job offers from Los Angeles, Atlanta, Jackson and Tupelo were all based on my BS acceptance ability too! Dang! I wasted ALL that money on going to Columbia School of Broadcasting! ;D Now that's BS! Let me assure you that my BS tolerance is very low indeed! You may PRETEND to know me, but be honest Meep! You and I have NEVER worked together and about 5 or 10 minutes of personal conversation doesn't qualify you to "know me" very well at all! But you'll have a chance to get to know me better tomorrow night! I'm looking forward to it! See you at the show! I'll be the one playing the drums! ;D
 
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